User talk:KellyAna
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Nicole Walker
Listen, you. Stop altering the Nicole page with false information. I have asked you nicely. Now you are just being annoying.
Apology
I don't know how to reply on "my page." I am sorry for my comment and question on the EJ Wells talk page that were so inappropriate that they had to be immediately deleted. Your time is valuable and I should mind my own business and not bother you. NBK1122 (talk) 03:55, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Grant Chuggle now on LTA
To bring back a brief blast from what I hope will always remain the past, I have taken the trouble to create an entry at LTA for Grant, in case he returns. This way you can include the link with any AIV report to save the trouble of explaining him to another admin. Daniel Case (talk) 20:18, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Welcome back
Welcome back, hope all is well! — TAnthonyTalk 23:30, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
- As well as can be expected. LOL. Good, or maybe bad, news is I went to the doctor today and found out why the mood swings and really really bad moods. I don't have allergies, I have a roaring sinus infection. Not making excuses, I did what I did, but at least I got an answer to why. How's life as an unemployed person in LA? KellyAna (talk) 23:35, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
- I'm glad that you're getting to the bottom of things. I have suffered from sinus infections myself and I know that they're no fun! Do you trust the doctor? I had to go through 3 or 4 doctors before I found one who I really felt was understanding things, and then once I found a good one, I've stuck with him for years. :)
- BTW, one other small piece of "course correction" advice. Please be very careful with what you put into edit summaries. Sometimes they can get you into even more trouble than actual comments, because they show up more quickly if someone is doing a quick scan of your contribs: KellyAna (talk · contribs). So I recommend that you be scrupulous about keeping the summaries limited to the content, and don't refer to other users at all. You're doing a good job reverting bona fide vandalism, but be careful to only use the word "vandalism" in an edit summary if you're reverting something really blatant (like the editor that changed "son" to "daughter"). That's definitely vandalism. However other edits, where people seem to be making good faith changes that are just wrong, it's not okay to refer to them as vandalism. A revert may still be appropriate, but it would be better to use some other edit summary such as "reverting unsourced material" or "fixing", or when in doubt, the nice neutral "copyediting" is always safe. :) Just giving you a heads-up, --Elonka 00:30, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- To be honest, it's too soon to tell about the doctor. Knowing that Claritan isn't going to help an infection did make sense and the "mood swing" comment didn't until I looked it up. He explained the combination of an infection with the wrong medicine and the proximity to the brain and pain effecting moods, yada yada yada.... I guess it makes sense in a way, I have been in a lot of pain but I thought it was because the world bloomed all at once without warning and then we had close to a week of rain. I don't know anymore, I just want the pain to stop and the moods to go back to normal because this isn't working.
- Now, about "vandalism." I didn't think I had used that word tonight except for the guy who called Lorenzo Lamas a girl. But maybe I did.
- I am sorry for what I said to you. The infection is no excuse, we should control our bodies, not our bodies control us. The head pain (my face hurts if I bite down with my front teeth), the wrong medicine, the lack of ability to breath are factors but they aren't an excuse for how I treated you. I make no excuses, I should have walked away rather than been such a bitch. I'm sorry. Please accept my apology. I can't guarantee I won't do it again, that would be a lie, but I can say I'll try not to. KellyAna (talk) 00:48, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- BTW, one other small piece of "course correction" advice. Please be very careful with what you put into edit summaries. Sometimes they can get you into even more trouble than actual comments, because they show up more quickly if someone is doing a quick scan of your contribs: KellyAna (talk · contribs). So I recommend that you be scrupulous about keeping the summaries limited to the content, and don't refer to other users at all. You're doing a good job reverting bona fide vandalism, but be careful to only use the word "vandalism" in an edit summary if you're reverting something really blatant (like the editor that changed "son" to "daughter"). That's definitely vandalism. However other edits, where people seem to be making good faith changes that are just wrong, it's not okay to refer to them as vandalism. A revert may still be appropriate, but it would be better to use some other edit summary such as "reverting unsourced material" or "fixing", or when in doubt, the nice neutral "copyediting" is always safe. :) Just giving you a heads-up, --Elonka 00:30, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Apology
I knew I'd misclicked and reverted your edits to the 3RR noticeboard, but I originally thought I must have accidentally hit the rollback button. I just noticed that it was actually twinkle's vandalism button, so I wanted to apologize for the edit summary even though I'd rolled myself back within a few seconds. --Onorem♠Dil 03:29, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- You're all good. Thanks for taking the time to apologize, that's really nice. A lot of people wouldn't do that. I appreciate that you did. Have a good night and thanks again. KellyAna (talk) 03:34, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Politeness
I said "polite and friendly." This doesn't cut it.[1] Please read WP:AGF. --Elonka 04:45, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- This is getting WAY TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH. I was nice. I didn't snark. You are "holding me to too high a standard" and by your standards I'll never cut it. I'm going to go cry myself to sleep because I can't, I just can't live up to your new found standards. I was not impolite. I WASN'T. Why are you being mean? Going to cry now because YOU told me to warn him about the April Fools thing. Maybe you should have done it instead of telling me to do it.KellyAna (talk) 04:48, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- If I would have done it, I would have posted something like, "Hah, cute April Fools joke on your userpage. Too bad you can't keep it there for awhile, but it does kind of run afoul of WP:USER. Just thought I'd drop you a reminder about it. I look forward to reading more about you, the editor, when you update it!" (note: This doesn't mean I want you to copy/paste, I'm just suggesting a different kind of tone. But you gotta write whatever feels sincere to you) --Elonka 04:53, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- I have no sense of humor, I hate April Fools and got a man fired for pulling an April Fools joke. I was nice to the best of my ability based on what you said to tell him, you need to stop holding me to some ridiculously impossible standard that I will never live up to. You should have done it yourself and not chastized me for not doing it your way. If it really is an April Fools joke, it's not funny. KellyAna (talk) 04:57, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- If I would have done it, I would have posted something like, "Hah, cute April Fools joke on your userpage. Too bad you can't keep it there for awhile, but it does kind of run afoul of WP:USER. Just thought I'd drop you a reminder about it. I look forward to reading more about you, the editor, when you update it!" (note: This doesn't mean I want you to copy/paste, I'm just suggesting a different kind of tone. But you gotta write whatever feels sincere to you) --Elonka 04:53, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- For what it's worth, I feel the same about 80% of the April Fools jokes I see. ;) But you really have to work on your courtesy. --Elonka 05:03, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Gina Von Amberg
Thank you so much for that spelling correction! It has been bothering me for quite some time! Rm994 (talk) 18:42, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- You're welcome. KellyAna (talk) 19:07, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
The Walker Family
Why did you undo all my contributions? Paul, Fay, and Taylor need their own pages and now they are gone. RionDC (talk) 19:49, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- Minor characters with little to no notability have no place in an encyclopedia. These pages were previously merged or deleted and do not belong on Wikipedia. This is not a fan site, it is an encyclopedia. When notability is not there, pages get removed. KellyAna (talk) 19:52, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- Want me to block him now? ScarianCall me Pat! 19:56, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- Yes please. He's being uncivil and removing valid content along with creating unnecessary previously merged or deleted pages AND I am 99% sure he's a sock. Thank you. KellyAna (talk) 19:58, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- Want me to block him now? ScarianCall me Pat! 19:56, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- Bah, I gave him a block for 24 hours. Maybe he'll calm down after that. Keep up the good work and happy editing! ScarianCall me Pat! 19:59, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you. I'm curious to see if NikoSwavae00 (talk · contribs) now shows up. They were editing the same brand new pages that I redirected back to the main Days page. Grant Chuggle (talk · contribs) used to delete any mention of retcons so it makes me really suspicious. I guess I'll just have to be vigilante tonight. KellyAna (talk) 20:03, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- Bah, I gave him a block for 24 hours. Maybe he'll calm down after that. Keep up the good work and happy editing! ScarianCall me Pat! 19:59, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I have no idea. I didn't really pay so much attention to the content but to the fact that RionDC was doing things he shouldn't have been doing. I'll take a look and see if I can spot any similiarities. ScarianCall me Pat! 16:07, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
- [2] - Could be grounds in itself for an WP:SSP. But you'd need to find harder similiarities than just editing the same article. Sorry I couldn't be of any more help. Message me if you need anything else! ScarianCall me Pat! 16:10, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Morgan Hollingsworth
Why was the page deleted? Reid Hochstedler 17:10, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
- The page was deemed unnecessary as she is not notable by Wikipedia standards. She's a minor character and this is an encyclopedia, not a fan site. Minor characters don't warrant pages. KellyAna (talk) 17:13, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
- I disagree, I believe she is notable. The character has been involved in story lines which could be considered central to the show, e.g. Campus Rapist, Ford Decker death, ... I will reinstate the page and add a notability tag, if other people questions her notability I will delete the page. Reid Hochstedler 17:20, 4 April 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Reidhoch (talk • contribs)
- Well, several others with more experience than you or I decided the page should be redirected to the main Days page. If you reinstate a deleted page, you will be flagged. Her page has already been deleted. Adding back a deleted page is a violation of Wikipedia policy. Consider this a warning. KellyAna (talk) 17:23, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
- I disagree, I believe she is notable. The character has been involved in story lines which could be considered central to the show, e.g. Campus Rapist, Ford Decker death, ... I will reinstate the page and add a notability tag, if other people questions her notability I will delete the page. Reid Hochstedler 17:20, 4 April 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Reidhoch (talk • contribs)
Wiccan!
Uhhh, that's about all I had to say...sorry. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 19:42, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
- Okay. I'm confused. Am I needed to work a spell or something? KellyAna (talk) 19:52, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
April 2008
- You've been repeatedly asked to stop the personal attacks and maintain civility. Calling good faith edits vandalism and the dropping a vandalism warning on the editor's page isn't maintaining civility; you've been specifically asked before to stop referring to contributions you don't like as vandalism. I have blocked your account for 24 hours. When you return, please remember that you can always step away from Wikipedia for a bit if you don't feel you can respond in a calm and civil manner. Shell babelfish 22:25, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
KellyAna (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Please, seriously, explain what personal attacks I made. Someone claiming to remove content that they own which you cannot own date information? How is that not vandalism? I feel that what I did was in good faith and not personal attacks. Seems as though others can call things vandalism or call dates their work but I cannot revert removal of mass amounts of verified content. I, further, don't appreciate the false accusations of a "need to step away" as I was only doing what I've done for months and NEVER been warned about. I was not even afforded a cursory "this might not be the way to do something" even though I believe what I did was correct and did not violate civility. The revert of removal of mass content has always been reverting vandalism, since when is it not. The editor removed content claiming it as his own, that's not allowed.
Decline reason:
I do this with a somewhat heavy heart. Under her former username, I had helped her out a lot in her early days here and it was quite fulfilling to watch someone you'd mentored a little grow and develop. I was stunned by the first block, but I have long trusted Elonka and I should say that the way she is handling this is vindicating many of us who supported her RfA a few months ago. Reading her explanation below, especially the bit about the harassing emails, really makes me sad. Kelly, don't do this. If you have a roaring sinus infection it might be a good idea to just sit back and do something else until you feel better, even after the block expires, as it and the medication cannot be helping your mood. Harassing emails is serious business ... this gets people banned. I don't want Kelly to be one of them, as she is capable of so much. — Daniel Case (talk) 02:44, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
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- I support the block. KellyAna had been cautioned, by me, that it was uncivil to refer to good faith edits as vandalism.[3] Jason47a is an editor with whom she was involved in a prior dispute, and had issued personal attacks towards. She had also been blocked for those attacks.[4] Jason47a noted a page on Wikipedia, List of Days of our Lives producers and writers, which was unsourced. He added a source to the page, which was his own personal website.[5] KellyAna removed that source as unreliable.[6] Jason47a consulted me (Elonka) for advice,[7] and I counseled him that per WP:V, unsourced information could be removed by any editor.[8] He could have removed large portions of the page, but instead he simply modified some dates and removed some details.[9] Then KellyAna reverted him, called it "vandalism" in the edit summary,[10] and even worse, put a vandalism warning on his talkpage.[11] This was inappropriate on multiple levels, and KellyAna's actions violated multiple policies, from Wikipedia:Verifiability to Wikipedia:Civility and Wikipedia:Don't bite the newcomers. She has already been blocked multiple times just over the last week or so, and received cautions from numerous editors and administrators.[12] I actually think that a 24-hour block is quite lenient at this point. If KellyAna wants to continue participating on Wikipedia, she needs to abide by policies, and she needs to show that she can work in a cooperative and collegial manner with other editors. --Elonka 00:25, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Extension of block
I am extending the block to 48 hours. Jason47a informed me that someone matching KellyAna's communication style had sent him a harassing email.[13] I asked him to forward the email to me, and I can confirm that it is from the same Yahoo address which KellyAna previously used to write harassing emails to me, and that it has the same communication style. Along with extending the block, I am also disabling email for this account. If any reviewing admins would like to see the email, please contact me or Jason47a, thanks.
KellyAna, stop this, before the block is extended even further. --Elonka 00:49, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Page unprotection
I have unprotected the page since someone wanted to post an SSP report here. KellyAna, you are allowed to post here again, but please make sure all comments are in compliance with the civility policy. I may also be willing to lift the block, so that you can post at the SSP page, but I would need assurances from you that you would be able to moderate your behavior. --Elonka 02:30, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
- Listen, I'm okay with the 24 hour block. That's fine. I said it, I did it, I was the bitch that I am (although I didn't mean to violate policy, but it is how it is). What I'm really pissed about is I didn't "abuse the Wikipedia email system." Jason's email is available on his site and it has been since we first tussled nearly 2 years ago on NBC. Quite honestly, since I've seen the SSP, I don't think unblocking me is a good idea because I'll likely tell DJS, a one time confirmed sock puppeteer himself CarsGm5 (talk · contribs), where to "stick it." I know when I "need a time out" and with as pissed as I am, a time out until tomorrow morning is probably a good idea. Leave it for 24, I'm pissed and a bitch right now, leaving it is best. KellyAna (talk) 03:03, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Question
Is it allowable to link a video or upload pictures to prove identity? I took them, or was in the picture. It's visual proof of who I am and who Irish is and why we talk to each other off of Wiki through our other site. KellyAna (talk) 03:09, 5 April 2008 (UTC)