Talk:Muffin

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Please, don't mix US units (cups) with metric ones (g) in the same recipe. Always use a consistent unit set. Bearing in mind that many of the readers here will be non-American, I suggest sticking to metric units as they are standard across the world. I'm not sure of the equivalences between cups of sugar or flour , so I'll leave that to someone with more expertise.

Done, but I wasn't sure how to express half a cup of chocolate chips in grams, so I made it millilitres instead. --Valmi ✒ 04:25, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Don't Move

I'll fix this article. Don't move it. Just move the recipe. --Mothperson 01:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Help

I mean, please move the recipe. I don't know what to do with it. --Mothperson 22:42, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"Aar muffin"?

I just did a search on Google, and I didn't get any results explaining to me what an "aar muffin" is. Is this just some kind of typo? --Jitterro 03:25, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

'American muffin'

I'm not entirely sure that Britons refer to the subject of this article as 'American muffins'. No one I've ever met has (although admittedly conversations about muffins are relatively scarce). I would call the cake and the bread product 'muffins'. Which is meant is always clear from context. Perhaps in the US if you ask someone if they would like a muffin for breakfast they might not assume you mean the bread kind. I've certainly eaten doughnuts in America before that have claimed to be 'ideal for breakfasts'. mat_x 15:19, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am British and I have never said the words 'American' and 'Muffin' next to each other. 'American Muffin' is not a phrase anyone has ever said in the history of language so I don't know where this has come from. Muffins are much more popular than 'English Muffins' in the UK so if you ask for a muffin you will always get the cake kind (the one about which this article is written). I am editting the article to remove any such suggestion that these cakes are called 'American Muffins' in the UK. Abc30 22:08, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I would say that if you ask for a muffin when it is likely you are asking for an American-style muffin, that is what you will get. If you ask for a muffin in my house, at tea-time on a Sunday, you will likely get a breadier product. I have honestly eaten many more bready muffins than cakey muffins in my time. If it is not clear from context, I have often heard, and used, 'American-style muffin' or 'American muffin', as opposed to 'bready muffin'. So you are wrong. Skittle 11:05, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Israeli-Palestinian Conflict muffins!

Muffin size

Somebody should probably change this sentence: Today it is not unusual to find a muffin along the lines of "coconut-almond-cherry-chocolate" the size of a small baby's head. I find it kind of strange to be comparing a food item to a baby's head. Redtitan 06:18, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is a cupcake a muffin?

Clearly these little cakes are delicious, but do they have enough in common with the muffin to be considered one? If this arguement can be made, then could one state that a cake is also a loaf of bread? A serious debate has been raised on this topic and I was hoping to get a third party evaluation. Any scientific proof that would help my case would be appreciated! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Marvel comic (talk • contribs) 23:53, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

You are unlikely to find "scientific proof" for what is, after all, a matter of language usage and not science. To answer your question directly: I know that bakers and TV personality Alton Brown distinguish between muffins and cupcakes on the basis of how the batter is prepared. (Brown goes so far as to identify a distinct "muffin method" in his baking how-to book I'm Just Here for More Food.) There is some controversy over whether the use of paper pan-liners is acceptable for muffins; Brown says not, but most commercial bakeries use them.

Clarify tag

Article needs clarification and probably section restructuring - at the moment the article mixes up English muffins and US muffins in a confusing way and has a rambling prose style Bwithh ^{Join Up! See the World!} 22:03, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Restructured

In response to Bwithh's comment about the article needing restructuring I've grouped the different types of muffins together under one heading. I felt that there wasn't enough information in each of them to be seperate titles. Free Thinker 17:03, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cadburys

The article states that Cadburys is an American company, it's British!!! 131.227.231.73 00:27, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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I am SHOCKED!!

I am found at a moral crisis here... Is.... is wiki ... wikipedia... loosing its mind!? Here I find myself at the page of what can safely be said the most perfect of dishes, the solution to all world hunger, and none have had the slightest idea of discussing its excellence!? A muffin is not just any food. It isn't like its a cup cake or any other, well... how shall I put it mildly... inferior food item. We are taking about MUFFFINS for heaven's sake. Has any of you ever eaten any one of them? I mean seriously? How dare you infidels write about such a delicate and fine delight not even having tried one? You must all and I am quite sure that any deity of your particular choice will grant me the power to convince you (guess what she/he it or they are eating all day ;) ), you must, YOU MUST eat them. And if you don't believe me you should listen to the track Muffin Man written and performed by the wise and spiritual leader Frank Zappa.

Speaking of which, I thought that the nursiry rhyme the Muffin Man and the Frank Zappa song deserve mention. The first because it is an interesting fact about old english culture and the role of muffins herein, the second because he is a musician who has had and still has a major following of fans, and he has made the strong statement advocating the consumption of muffins "There is not, nor ought there be nothing so exhaulted on the face of God's great earth, than the prince of foods... the muffin".

In terms of muffin proponents he dwarfs me and since this song I can no longer look at a muffin hesitantly.

So to put it just plane and simple, the muffin is more than just a chemical reaction in an oven. It is to many a cherrished piece of culture and though our culture may or may not be funny, we demand the right to express our love via the voice of our ancient rooted and modern songs of praise.

Guidocalvano 21:13, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Peace out!!

You may be more interested in Uncyclopedia. Skittle 12:26, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reference to popular culture

Let us make a list of references to muffins in popular culture 1. Casino - Robert de Niro: each muffin has to have the same amount of blueberries 2. your turn

These are what I think are called "cup cakes" in British English.

I'm not much of a cook, but that's what I think the things in the photos are normally called in England. Of course with all the American brands being imported into the UK, things are being sold in supermarkets as and becoming known in their American usage. And Scottish people probably have different names for them also, which might I imagine be more similar to American-English usage. 80.2.202.130 21:44, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The things that you apparently call cup cakes are also called cup cakes in American English; I call them fairy cakes and have never met an English person who calls them cup cakes. American-style muffins are slightly different, having a slightly different composition. All of this can be found in the article, or could be last time I looked :) Skittle 15:27, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Must we make a reference to Whole Foods?

At the Paper Muffin cups section it clearly states "Organic variations of the muffin cup are sold at Whole Foods." Must we make reference to Whole Foods? I'm sur somewhere out there they sell organic muffin cups in a store other than Whole Foods, right?

Requested move

I would like to suggest moving this page to Muffin (American) because I think this is unfairly U.S.-centric; people in Britain usually use the term 'muffin' whether they are talking about American-style or English muffins, and the context makes it clear which one they are talking about (85 times out of 88 in the British National Corpus - see below), without the use of any clarifying adjective such as in the terms 'English muffin' or 'American-style' muffin. Unless of course the context for some reason is not clear, in which case they will use these longer terms. Other people have already written this. But if 'English' muffins are part of the cuisine and therefore the culture of Britain, and people in Britain usually refer to them as just 'muffins', and 'American-style' muffins are part of American culture, and people in America refer to them as just muffins, then why should Wikipedia give precedence to 'American-style' muffins by putting this article under the title 'muffin', and not the 'English' variety?

I think there should be an article under the title 'muffin' which is about both kinds of muffins, and the article should be moved to 'Muffin (American)', in the same way that 'football' is about all kinds of football and not just American Football, Soccer etc. Perhaps we could vote on it?

88 occurrences of 'muffin(s)' in the British National Corpus (~111 million words)

36 occurrences of adjective/noun + muffin(s)
CQL query: [tag="N.+|AJ0"] "muffins?"

chocolate muffins 2
banana muffins 2
yodelling muffin 1
wholemeal muffins 1
vanilla muffins 1
toasted muffins 1
spice muffins 1
scones muffins 1
prize muffin 1
player Muffin 1
party-coloured muffins 1
low-flying muffins 1
love muffins 1
hot muffins 1
home-made muffins 1
god Muffin 1
dog Muffin 1
different muffins 1
chair Muffin 1
buttered muffins 1
breakfast muffin 1
blueberry muffin 1
blue-iced muffin 1
Sunday muffin 1
Mule Muffin 1
Muesli muffins 1
London Muffin 1
Hot Muffin 1
English muffins 1
English Muffins 1
Christmas muffins 1
Blueberry muffins 1
Bhangra Muffin 1
American-style muffins 1

source: British National Corpus (sketchengine.co.uk)
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User:Ca woodcock 22:53, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]