Talk:Shred guitar

This is NOT a LIST ARTICLE

Please refrain from adding more names to the list, which is only REPRESENTATIVE. There is no need for any single name to be added to the list. The point was to exemplify the category of Shredders and of players who use shredding on their playing. If we start to add names to this article, then we will end up with something like the Virtuoso article, which needed to be split in the article itself and List of virtuosi performers, and this one is risking deletion (in fact, was voted for deletion already). Regards Loudenvier 12:47, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I added Yngwie J. Malmsteen's first name, since he is well known.

He was already cited as being the most influential guitarrist, there were no need to wikify his name, but it won´t hurt the overall article :-) Loudenvier 14:16, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"metal players who shred excessively, such as Malmsteen" - isn't this highly opinionated?

edited to "metal players who aim to shred excessively", removing Malmsteen as he is the only one of the three mentioned guitarists who does not seek recognition for shredding excessively.

Bainzy 11:15, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The term came about a lot earlier than people like Malmsteen. The term "Shredding" was used for Van Halen in '78. The whole article seems really inacurate.

It seems like many people believe that any fast guitar playing is shredding (ie. A video of Django Reinhardt on youtube, he plays a quick chromatic run up the neck, and there are many comments like "The originial shredder!"). Guitarists have been playing fast for hundreds of years, shredding itself is a style of playing, not playing fast.

Home Shredding?

"It can also be argued that advances in technology in home recording and programmable bass/drum machines have led to a surge in the number of amateur guitarists releasing instrumental/shred albums on the internet, as they remove the high costs of studio recording and the need for a full band."

How is this related to a particular playing style? I am removing this until someone can provide with a reference or source, if there is any merit at all into this information. 194.219.45.241 00:55, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Have you ever seen the guitar website Guitar9.com? Look at all the albums made on there by the amateur guitarists being described, or look at the reviews on Shredaholic and The Shred Zone.... 81.179.111.116 12:57, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is a good point. In my opinion, this is the second wave of shred guitar. The first wave was mainly from commercial companies or independant labels and arose from Mike Varney / Shrapnel Records and the discovery of Yngwie Malmsteen. The second wave has been because of the growth of digital recording and web site technologies including specialist guitar record shops like guitar9 have added to this. All of which has decreased the entry cost for players to get noticed and make a living from their playing. Indeed the growth of YouTube and Myspace has lead to the decrease in entry cost for any guitarist to get heard by wave of video footage often taken in their own home. However, I'm not sure how you would word this in this wiki pedia item.

Suggested Cleanup

This article is getting almost as ridiculous as some late 80s shredding ;), we could really do without people splitting hairs about the things described in the article and have them start to put in more effort towards making the article conform to Wikipedia standards.

Also, instead of including your favourite artist that happened to play a fast solo once in 1996, try to improve the section on the actual techniques descriptions and expand them. Those are the most important part of the article, not what bands are using them.

Tried to comform to NPOV

In my clean-up, I included a small part about the criticism sometimes attributed to shredding. This was only to expand on all the known facts about the genre — good or bad (the part about Techniques was also cleaned up heavily by me). However, I'd like to state that I myself am both a fan of shredding but sometimes also dislike the excessive stuff from Fareri/Cooley, etc. With that said, I didn't want the article to sound biased so I didn't go into too much detail about it because otherwise it might start bordering on non-NPOV. Anyway, hopefully it's alright now. --Marco —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.200.44.131 (talk) 09:05, 12 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Tagged article as it still reads like unreferenced peacock fancruft. It's very close to a PROD and, lacking sources for any grand length of time may wind up AfD'd. 156.34.231.188 23:27, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Stupidest article that I've ever seen

So this is suppose to be an article ??? Shred Guitar?? You kids are really stupid.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.106.105.187 (talk) 23:26, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article as it currently stands needs work (including references) but shred guitar (or shredding) is a known technique. To call contributors to an article "stupid" just because the article needs some work may be considered by some a personal attack.
I'm not currently in a position to spend time finding reliable sources to add to the article, however, students studying The Associate of Arts in Performance (Guitar) program with the Musicians Institute can take an elective course in Shred Guitar, just as they can take one in Acoustic Guitar, Classical Guitar, Rhythm Guitar, Lead Guitar, etc. [1] —TheJC (Talk • Contribs • Count) 13:28, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]