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Evil

Why would they name it after and evil person? The software is great, but still. Doesn't that offend anyone?

Nero Linux Incompatibility

When I tired to use Nero Linux add files to a multisession disk I made in Windows, it overwrited the old files and only put the new ones. is that normal?

Nero Burning Rom is Marketleader

Why is this fact missing.?

Because you haven't established it as fact? What's your source? Why don't you add it to the article yourself? Ham Pastrami 01:18, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Updated screenshot?

The current screenshot on the page is of the previous version of Nero, version 6. Could anyone take & submit an updated screenshot of the current version, version 7? —S3BST3R 04:23, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

IS it safe to have more than one CD Burning Software on the same computer? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.220.244.143 (talk) 17:20, 27 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong place to ask, but:
On Windows, not really. There can be big conflicts, particularly with EasyCD Creator and Nero on XPSP2.
On anything else, yes.
--Kiand 17:23, 27 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
You sure? Only problem I have is that one of them occasionally stops working, usually after the other has been updated. I'm more worried at the bloatness of their updaters. Smoothy 20:52, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I usually find that the CD drive stops working entirely due to conflicting filters installed, but thats just my experience. anyway, wrong place to ask. --Kiand 00:59, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a tip: Don't trust Nero's verify results --Paul 13:04, 13 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

UDF is not mandatory on DVD's

DVD's do not require UDF. UDF is only required for a file system larger than 4GB.

It's perfectly "legal" to use ISO9660 on a DVD, which is in fact what most software distributed on DVD uses, when the total amount on the DVD is less than 4GB. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RealThanny (talk • contribs) 01:38, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes this is completely true and I have removed the line "(actually an invalid format as DVDs are required to use UDF)" accordingly. Although I'm a bit unsure about your 4GB line. Are you sure it's true? I know ISO9660 doesn't support files larger then 2GB but I've never read of any 4GB total file systme limit and I'm pretty sure I've seen commercially mastered DVDs with ISO9660 larger then 4GB (some even dual layer IIRC). Nil Einne 12:56, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Nero 6 uses the ISO9660 filesystem on DVDs larger than 4 GB. It will use it on Dual layer disks which is probably why not much will read them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 20.133.0.13 (talk) 09:05, 10 July 2006 (UTC) They certainly don't work in any DVD video player that I have tried (those that accept DVD+R9s in the first place). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 20.133.0.14 (talk) 09:16, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The 2gig ISO9660 filesize limit is why .VOB files of DVD videos are no larger than 2gig each. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.136.145.200 (talk) 03:30, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The 2 Gb file limit comes about because of a mis-feature of the windows 9x product line. The FAT32 file system supports a theoretical maximum file size of 4 Gb. Unfortunately the Windows 9x product line interprets the file size as a signed number, and thus reports any file larger than 2 Gb as having a negative size. Some applications, aware of the limitation were able to internally correct the error and work with files between 2 Gb and 4 Gb. The 2 Gb limit on DVD file sizes is to prevent this problem occuring. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 20.133.0.14 (talk) 09:16, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I dont know where you guys get this crap (referring to the previous post)... 2Gb IS a ISO 9660 limitation. The problem is that ISO 9660 save the file size in a 32 bit value. In signed values (normally used), the last bit is used as signal (+,-), making the 32 bits only cover up to 2Gb. Although a program can treat the number as unsigned (which expand the maximum file size up to 4Gb), not all platforms and programs will read it (as it is not specified to use unsigned value in ISO 9660). ISO 9660 still have a feature to circumvent it (the multi-extend feature, which fragment a large file). However, not all platforms support it. Maybe it is why Nero choose not supporting it (or they are just lazy). Read more here: ISO_9660#The_2_GB_file_size_limit. SSPecter talk ♠ 13:21, 3 February 2007 (UTC).


Does Nero Recode 2 support the DVD-R format? And if so, how do I activate the capability? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.148.122.251 (talk) 05:51, 22 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Disc speed problems

Nero Burning ROM has issues with supporting all the speeds a drive and CD-RW or DVD-+RW disc support.

I have an Ultra Speed CD-R/DVD+-RW (+R only for dual layer) drive made by LG. I had Nero 6 and on some 24x Memorex CD-RW discs it would only allow them to be used at 10x or 16x. At 16x they would not burn without CRC errors. I upgraded to Nero 7.0.5.4 and now 24x is allowed but 10x is gone! Great 'upgrade'! Now these particular discs cannot be used at all on this 2.35Ghz PC.

I also have some HP 12x High speed CD-RW discs. Nero 6 would only allow them to be used at 10x. Nero 7 does the same.

This non-support for ALL speeds a drive and CD-RW disc supports has been a long time problem with Nero Burning ROM. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.136.145.200 (talk) 03:38, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here’s something that might related to this, I was trying to install TES: Oblivion on my computer. I received an error saying that my DVD-RW drive is not a valid win 32 application. When I explored the folders on the Disk, it would not allow me to use the install program by way of the same error. I looked up this problem online, and found that Nero actually interferes with this somehow. Why it ONLY does this to Oblivion instead of The Matrix - Path of Neo OR Half Life 2, which I both own I have not a clue... just an fyi.

Nero StartSmart merge proposal

As far as I'm aware StartSmart is simply a part of the Nero package (essentially a more beginner-friendly frontend for the other software components like Burning ROM, BackItUp, etc.), which is why I proposed a merge with the very short article on it. Comments? Objections? ~ Matticus78 19:27, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. If each and every small tool is listed on its own page, we would need a Nero-pedia. As a matter of fact, there are 22 Nero 7 apps installed on this computer. Howewer, If anyone feels like writing it, a proper list of significant modules on Nero Burning Rom page might be somewhat helpful. (e.g. as a bulleted list) --Emre D. 02:45, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strongly Agree It could make sense to have an article about individual Nero apps, if any of them are worthy, notable, useful and widely used, et cetera ... but I think most people see them as a single package and it's more appropriate to have a single article.
Agree. Fire 00:19, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Agree. --Samweber 02:18, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Agree. --ozzmosis 06:10, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Agree. Both articles are too small anyways. Joining them would only make sense. But this means the Nero article would need to be cleaned up. --Zrulli 04:14, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Clunkiness

Although I use Nero as my burning software after evaluating a handful, and it has an aweful lot of useful functionality, I find the user interface(s?) clunky, and sometimes confusing. My opinion on the matter isn't reason enough to list this as a complaint in an encyclopedia article, but ... if a significant number of users feel the same way, perhaps it would make sense to add a section for 'criticisms?' Plenty of other ( usually, longer ) articles have this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DigitalEnthusiast (talk • contribs) 22:51, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Criticisms section: Although during installation of the regular Nero suite many unwanted or unused components can be removed and not installed.

It may sound as there is no need for a Lite version because the official installer provides facilities for completely selective setup. This is not the case. Some stuff that gets installed anyway: shell toolbar, DirectShow libraries contributing to "Codec hell".

I believe the sentence should be changed to ..unwanted features can be unselected, several components of limited use get installed anyways. -- 83.99.184.75 18:43, 3 March 2007 (UTC) (J7n)[reply]

I've changed it to: Note that while many components can be removed using the official installer, several components of limited use are not listed and thus are not made optional.
How does this sound to you? I'm trying to be impartial by noting what can be done normally vs. what made these alternative installers so useful to people. —GrimRevenant 03:03, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have restored the Criticisms section with a good reference from The Inquirer about the Nero Lite and Nero Micro installers. (updatepack.nl appears to be down presently). This makes the section stronger. I have also attempted to reword in a more objective manner, again. —GrimRevenant 06:55, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Can we get rid of it or replace it with higher quality reviews? Fairly useless as it stands I think.Thadk 06:01, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I've found references for every detail which was tagged "citation needed", and converted various in-text links to <ref> format. Many of these are from primary sources (mainly the Nero website), but where possible I've found others. In addition, I've cleaned out the external links section – we don't need links to a dozen difference CD writing apps, the link to List of optical disc authoring software is enough. diff ― GrimRevenant 08:05, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

nominclature

i find it interesting about the naming of the software. im not sure how to word it, but i think it would be valuable to mention that as ROMe is a reference to rome, ROM is also a direct reference to a CD-ROM. the_undertow talk 10:24, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I thought that was pretty self-evident? That's why it's mentioned as a play on words, because in this context "ROM" can be taken to mean either Rome or a (CD-) ROM. —GrimRevenant 07:23, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
it would only be self-evident if it mentioned CD-ROM in the actual section. your explanation is more thorough than the explanation given. my point is that a non-computer person may not see the correlation between ROM and ROMe, unless it's explained - just like you did. the_undertow talk 23:11, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
On thinking about it, you're probably right. While we're have no trouble picking this up, somebody not particularly familiar with computing terms/jargon may just think of it as a funny name. Might see if I can work this in somehow. —GrimRevenant 00:26, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You're right, that is tricky to work in. Section now reads:

The program's name is intended to be a play on words.[1] Recording CD- and DVD-ROMs is often known as "burning", and the infamous Roman Emperor Nero is said to have played his lyre as Rome burned. This pun is more obvious in the original German as the German name for Rome is Rom (a literal English translation would be Nero Burning ROMe). Also, the program logo is an image of the Roman Colosseum in flames.

I'm trying to specifically mention the term "CD-ROM", which a reader may be unaware of, while not coming off as insulting the reader's intelligence. Did it work? —GrimRevenant 00:45, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
it looks good. instead of insulting them with the explanation of a rom, the hyperlink will get the point across. ive had nero for a decade, and honestly thought the reference was only in relation to 'burning.' i never made the correlation between ROM and ROMe. now about the german part. is that OR ;? the_undertow talk 00:50, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Now isn't that interesting? I didn't pick up on the Emperor Nero connection for a couple of years – I just thought it was a cool, German-style name, and never really thought about it until one time I fired it up after reading a book which featured Nero. Of course, we never really did Roman history in school... I guess we just showed why both bits are necessary.
As for the German angle, check out de:Rom, which we could link to if we really wanted. ;) —GrimRevenant 01:21, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
haha, my last name may be Kochendorfer, but you lost me on that page. since rom = rome, i guess it wouldnt need a source. but is it 'burning ROM' or is burning also translated into german? the_undertow talk 01:31, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I don't really speak or read German either (or Dutch, despite my surname, Visser, being Dutch), but it at least "proved" the point about the spelling of "Rom". Interestingly, the de:Nero Burning ROM article has a Namensgeschichte (Babelfish: "Name History") section as the very first section header! I checked the Deutsch version of the Nero website and they call it "Nero Burning ROM" there, too, so there's no localised German name. —GrimRevenant 02:52, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Version history

I've added a version history section to list some of the major versions of the software. I've added whatever information I could get. Must be expanded further.

Aeons | Talk 06:01, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

MOVIE ON TO DISK

Does anybody know why, when i use nero 6 and try to put a song on in the background it does not work. Even when it says in the capacity info part that i am not even using up to 4GB, a extra coating of light blue occurs at the very start of the capacity info Risteard B 20:43, 24 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a tech support forum. Ham Pastrami 01:21, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

well since this is a problem im having with my nero, maybe someone who knows the answer could then enter it into the article mentioning that it as a fault before people go out and pay for it!!!!Risteard B 14:23, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ "Ahead Software - Nero Burning ROM review". IT Reviews. 2000-04-05. Retrieved 2007-02-01.
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