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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Lowercase sigmabot III (talk | contribs) at 21:01, 30 December 2024 (Archiving 1 discussion(s) to Talk:2024 Israeli invasion of Syria/Archive 2) (bot). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Map

@Ecrusized, The map below is based on information from media sources as well as showcasing the confirmed advances as per the ISW, so wouldn't it be better and more accurate than the current map employing Liveuamap as a source (which itself relies almost solely on reports from X) Waleed (talk) 02:43, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ecrusized, if there's no objection, I'd change the map in infobox Waleed (talk) 11:04, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ecrusized, the map clearly sources ISW, the confirmed advances are per the ISW's released map and the lighter color indicates the advances not yet confirmed by ISW Waleed (talk) 13:36, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ecrusized, I know you've pinned me on commons, I'd love to partake in the discussion there but unfortunately commons is banned here in Pakistan and henceforth I'm unable to access it Waleed (talk) 14:17, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Objecting to this map as it incorrectly displays the Golan Heights as Israeli territory rather than Israeli-occupied; this must be fixed. "Non-confirmed advances" also reads like original research. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ) 19:10, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Map

@M Waleed: The commons discussion is irrelevant to WP. Please self-revert to remove the recently-added non-neutral map. Makeandtoss (talk) 09:57, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I know that this map is non-neutral and would support it's removal definitely if there's a suitable accurate alternative map available, which clearly isn't at the time being, yes Golan is internationally recognized as Syria which the map doesn't reflect but it's the most accurate one we've as of now, if there's another map accurate to the level of this one (the former used Liveuamap which isn't a reliable source) then I'd myself remove this one Waleed (talk) 12:11, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The fact that it shows the GH as "Israel" is inaccurate enough to not have it. It can not be used in its current state. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 21:02, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The reason for me putting it in the map was it being more accurate than the current one, if there's anyone who can make a similar map without Golan, that'd be best Waleed (talk) 01:20, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Request - Casualties and Losses

In the casualties and losses section of the infobox it states that 7 syrians have been killed but the source linked only mentions 1. Please change the Syrian deaths to 1 or alternatively link a source that says 7 have been killed. Fyukfy5 (talk) 20:13, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Now a new source has been added that ups the total toll to 18 civilians (11 from the new, 7 from the old) but along with the old source not actually mentioning 7 civilians, the interpretation of the new source has 2 issues:
1. It says it's either 11 or 6, there are differing reports in that 1 source itself.
2. It says that the casualties are mostly civilians, which means that even taking the highest estimates and the 7 civilians which the first source doesn't mention, it still would be 18 civilians total.
I implore a confirmed editor to fix the infobox because the number if casualties is an extremely important details and right now it's a complete mess. Fyukfy5 (talk) 11:19, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
1 additional thing, the original 1 person from the first source likely wasn't a civilian. He was armed and reportedly worked for a militia per that same source.
With all these factors, my suggestion is to change the infobox casualty count from 18 *civilians* to 7-12 *people* as well changing "taken prisoner" to "arrested" which is more accurate and the language the source itself uses. Fyukfy5 (talk) 11:24, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 30 December 2024

remove Qatana from infobox, they never entered the city itself! per provided source 2003:100:3700:AA00:6966:FF25:813A:4A9A (talk) 17:51, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]