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The Signpost: 19 October 2024

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Wikidata weekly summary #650

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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata in the
week leading up to 2024-10-21. Missed the previous one? See issue #649

Discussions

  • Open request for adminship: Addshore (RfP scheduled to end after 23 October 2024 18:03 UTC)
  • New requests for permissions/Bot:
    • CarbonBot - (1) Add default mul labels to given and family names when the item has an existing default label with a mul language (2) Remove duplicated aliases matching the items mul label, when the item has a native label in with a mul language. As mul has not been fully adopted, a limited of aliases would be modified each day to ensure existing workflows are not disrupted. It is expected that these tasks will apply to roughly 800,000 given and family names.
    • So9qBot 10 - Add first line (P1922) with the first line of the paper to all scientific papers which has a full text link or where the abstract is available.

Events

  • Upcoming: We are getting ready for Wikidata:Twelfth Birthday on the 29th October. We already have 30 events scheduled on the list 😍. As a reminder, when your event is ready, don't forget to (1) create a wikipage with more information about the event, participants list, etc. (2) add your event to the global calendar and the map, following the instructions here: Wikidata:Twelfth Birthday/Run an event/Schedule
  • Past:

Press, articles, blog posts, videos

Tool of the week

  • User:Ainali/PreViewStats.js - is a Userscript that gives a quick glance at the pageviews in the header (and links to the full views). If you install it on your global.js on meta, it works on all projects).
  • Wikidata:ProVe - (Automated PROvenance VErification of Knowledge Graphs against Textual Sources) - is a tool for helping editors improve the references of Wikidata Items.

Other Noteworthy Stuff

  • Deepesha Burse joins WMDE as Developer Advocate for Wikibase Suite
  • Wikibase Suite: Patch releases as the first round of patch releases for all Wikibase Suite products, including all WBS Images as well as WBS Deploy
  • The CampaignEvents extension is now live on Wikidata! This means that if you are an event organizer, you can use several new tools to help manage your events more easily. By getting the Event Organizer right, you can:
    • Use simple on-wiki registration for your events.
    • Integrate Outreach Dashboard with your event registration page. (see demo)
    • Communicate more easily with your registered participants. (see demo)
    • Make your events more visible to other editors through the Special:AllEvents page.
    • Find potential participants for your next events. (see demo), and much more!
    • With this extension, you can also see all global events (past, present, and future) on the Special:AllEvents page, but only events using the event registration feature will appear there. If you are an organizer and want to use these new tools, follow the instructions on the Wikidata:Event_Organizers page to request the Event Organizer right.

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Development

  • Vector 2020: We’re working on improving Wikibase’s dark mode support somewhat (phab:T369385)
  • We polished the automatic undo/redo messages to make them more useful (phab:T194402)
  • Design system: We’re close to finishing migrating Special:NewLexeme to the Codex design system
  • EntitySchemas: We’re working on searching EntitySchema values by label and alias (phab:T375641)

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BGerdemann (WMF) (talk) 19:22, 23 October 2024 (UTC) [reply]

Hello. Thank you for addressing the copyvio request at Tomoyuki Yamashita. The issue is not that our article reproduced the full text of Yamashita's "Last Will" from 1946; but that our article reproduced the full text of Yuki Tanaka's English translation, published 2005; which has its own copyright. Rotary Engine talk 18:17, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Rotary Engine are you sure the translation is Tanaka's? Nthep (talk) 18:35, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Revdel

You declined a revdel of Draft:Barney's World. Even if the current revison is attributing the source, the previous versions are not. They need to be deleted. Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 08:42, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Copy Vio at Hee Oh

Hey @Nthep

I have seen you recently rev deleted a copy vio from Hee Oh. While patrolling through RecentChanges, I found this edit by the same IP, with my usual routine, I rolled it back using Twinkle and warned the user of unsourced content. Later realized that it was the same copy vio content added by the same IP. Now I cannot add it back with a rev del request, neither can I report it anywhere, that is why I kindly request you to rev del my rollback, and the IPs copy vio.

Thanks! Bunnypranav (talk) 16:15, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bunnypranav Done. You don't need to add it back to add a revdel request, in fact adding it back is the last thing we want. Nthep (talk) 16:39, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That is why I chose to drop you a message. Thanks for that. Bunnypranav (talk) 16:47, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Bunnypranav (talk page watcher) Forgive the unsolicited advice, but there's a user script, which I'll link here, that you can use to request rev-deletion in this situation without adding it back. In fact, removing the copyright violation is an important part of the process, so thanks for doing that! I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 17:06, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
thx, I was just in the middle of adding a reply to the same link. Nthep (talk) 17:22, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@I dream of horses No need to forgive, and thanks for the advice. After all, we are all here to improve the wiki. Bunnypranav (talk) 04:12, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata weekly summary #551

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Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata in the
week leading up to 2024-10-28. Missed the previous one? See issue #650

Discussions

Events

  • Wikidata's 12th Birthday is almost here! Let’s celebrate together and make it unforgettable! 🎂 Join in for events happening across the globe in October & November -- there's something for everyone! Here’s how you can be part of the fun.
    • Find a local event and connect with fellow Wikidata enthusiasts!
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    • Join our big online celebration on October 29th -- don’t miss out! Wikidata:Twelfth_Birthday
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  • The LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group is taking a break from our new project series format this coming Tuesday, October 29, 2024 at 9am PT / 12pm ET / 16:00 UTC / 6pm CEST (Time zone converter) to celebrate Hallowe'en! We'll be celebrating Spooky Season with a WitchyData Working Hour! Following on Christa Strickler's recent project series, we will continue building proficiency with the Mix'n'match tool, but with a ghoulish twist. Join the fall fun by updating your Zoom background or even coming in costume. BYOC (bring your own candy). Event page: Wikidata:WikiProject LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group/Wikidata Working Hours/2024-October-29 Wikidata Working Hour

Press, articles, blog posts, videos

Tool of the week

  • Lexica – A mobile-friendly tool that simplifies micro contributions to lexicographical data on Wikidata, making various editing tasks accessible and intuitive for contributors of all experience levels. This tool is developed by the WMDE Wikidata Software Collaboration team in Indonesia. Try Lexica through this link: https://lexica-tool.toolforge.org/

Other Noteworthy Stuff

  • The Global Open Initiative Foundation is building an open-source web app for Supreme Court cases in Ghana. We are looking for volunteers in the following roles: Frontend Developers, Backend Developers, Wikidata/SPARQL Experts, UI/UX Designers, Quality Assurance (QA) Testers, and Legal Professionals. Join us by sendind your resume and a brief description of your expertise to globalopeninitiative@gmail.com

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Development

  • Vector 2022: We are continuing to make Wikidata Items pages work in dark-mode (phab:T369385)
  • EntitySchemas: We are continuing to work on making it possible to search for an EntitySchema by its label or alias when making a statement linking to an EntitySchema
  • Wikibase REST API:
    • We discussed what will constitute breaking changes for the API (phab:T357775)
    • We are working on the endpoint for creating Properties (phab:T342992)

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Please take a look at Interpipe Group

There have been a series of editors on Interpipe Group engaging in serious copyright violations, POV pushing, adding material with no sources, adding material sourced back to the subject, etc. The problem is on-going. I am just a volunteer and have no idea how to deal with this. I also don’t have that much time Thanks. 2600:100F:A110:CF2C:89F7:79CC:32F8:C25F (talk) 15:25, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The IP user is manipulating and falsely accusing me of things I haven't done. That's easy to check.
The claim about "adding material with no sources" is untrue. I added four independent sources to the edits. However, the IP user removed the lines that were sourced from the Interfax agency, labeling this action as the deletion of the Forbes material with adding a link that had no connection to the actual edits.
The IP user spent a lot of time attacking my edits and reverting the article without trying to offer any suggestions.
So the only point I agree with the user is that your attention to edits is needed. Artpine98 (talk) 16:09, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This article has issues similar to many articles about companies in that it doesn't really explain why it's notable. There are, in my opinion, too churnalism references. The references to constructionweekly.com are just quoting what Interpipe has announced without any apparent attempt at independent verification. mining-technology.com starts off ok then turns into directly quoting of Interpipe material "our ..." gets used repeatedly so you have to wonder how much of the rest is an objective assessment or a repeated press release. The history looks ok until we get to the last 10-15 years. Then I look at some of the statements and say "so what?" For example, "Interpipe Steel Mill melted its millionth ton of steel, just 15 months after the launch of the facility" Is there anything to compare this with? Is this achievement good, bad or indifferent? If there are independent sources that not only verify the statement but also put it into context then it's that level of quality that's needed.
I think writing about existing companies is a really hard area to edit in, so the advice I'd offer is look for quality over quantity. Fewer statements with good sourcing are going to produce a better article, than numerous non-contextualised statements with less good sourcing. If you can't find an independent reliable source for a statement then just don't put it in.
Please don't be discouraged by what I've written, we've all been there when we first started editing. Putting almost anything in, because we think it's an improvement, when actually it isn't. Take a step back, think about what you're going to add and consider, is it adding anything to the readers understanding of Interpipe? If the answer is no, then don't. Nthep (talk) 21:23, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your review and advice. All my last updates were exclusively based on reliable sources like Reuters or Bloomberg. I've been more precise about information double-checking and avoiding press releases or company promos.
Additionally, I've checked the lines you mentioned. They were added a couple of years ago by other editors.
Thanks once again. I will follow your advice by further contributing. Artpine98 (talk) 10:03, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that all the churnalism in the article was down to you. I was commenting on the article as a whole. Apologies for not making this clear. Nthep (talk) 10:20, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I understand that.
Unfortunately, there are new issues with the IP users again. Don't know if this is the same person commented here or the new one. They just delete lines and put false claims in descriptions. So I assume they are strongly motivated to keep anybody from adding to the article. This behavior is specific to IP accounts only.
What do you do in such cases? Artpine98 (talk) 17:22, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They have different views to you about what is relevant content (veracity isn't the issue). That's an entirely valid point of view. What isn't acceptable behaviour is an edit warring, even a fairly slow burning one, like this. The onus on establishing relevance falls on those who wish to include the material. So, before there are repeated removalue of content, there should be more discussions on the talk page explaining why the content is relevant as often edit summaries are not enough. Nthep (talk) 09:25, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – November 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2024).

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  • Mass deletions done with the Nuke tool now have the 'Nuke' tag. This change will make reviewing and analyzing deletions performed with the tool easier. T366068

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Wikidata weekly summary #652

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Other Noteworthy Stuff

  • A small project on benchmarking query engine performance on useful Wikidata queries is asking for queries from the Wikidata user community to potentially be part of the benchmark. If you are a user of any Wikidata SPARQL service please send queries that you find useful to Peter F. Patel-Schneider. Say what you used the query for and whether you would like to be noted as the source of the query. Queries that take considerable time or time out are especially welcome, particularly if the query caused you to switch from the official Wikidata Query Service to some other service. More information about the project is available in Wikidata:Scaling_Wikidata/Benchmarking.

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Development

  • Mobile statement editing: We are making progress on the technical investigation for how to make it easier to edit statements on mobile. A lot more work to be done after that though.
  • We fixed the sidebar link to the main page in many languages (phab:T184386)
  • Codex: We are continuing with the migration of the Query Builder to Codex, the new design system. The migration of Special:NewLexeme is almost finished.
  • Query Service: We have updated the list of languages for the language selector in the UI (phab:T358572)
  • Vector 2022: We are continuing to adress issues of the Item UI in dark mode (phab:T369385)
  • Wikibase REST API:
    • We are moving from v0 to v1.
    • We have finished the work on the new endpoint for creating Properties.
  • Action API: We’re improving the way the wbformatvalue API handles invalid options (phab:T323778)

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Wikidata weekly summary #653

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  • Starting ca. today (Template:ISOdate), tools or bots which use the wiki replicas (such as Quarry) will observe outdated data for up to 8-10 days, as a result of necessary database maintenance (T367856). Tools or bots which use the APIs will not be affected.
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  • Lua: We changed the Wikibase function getAllStatements logic to behave as getBestStatements. When invoked, it was returning mutable direct-values, now it will return a copy of those values (which are immutable). (phab:T270851)
  • Wikibase REST API:
  • Configuration: We removed 'mainpage' from $wgForceUIMsgAsContentMsg for Wikidata as requested so translations of the main page are available (phab:T184386)
  • mul language code: We moved it to the top of the termbox so labels and aliases in mul are visible first (phab:T371802)
  • Revision table size: We are investigating the current state of the revision table of Wikidata's database and what the next steps should be to address its issues.

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BGerdemann (WMF) (talk) 00:18, 13 November 2024 (UTC) [reply]

How to rename Wikipedia page without account?

Hello Nthep! Could you please help an anonymous Wikipedia user? Last week, Norwegian Wikipedia user Ranværing has created this page:

Draft:The_train_accident_between_Bjerka_and_Finneidfjord_in_2024

There is a list of train accidents, but the naming convention seems to be that the year should always come in front. This is why I tried to request to rename the article to 2024 train derailment at Finneidfjord, but I made a mess, because I never took the time to learn how Wikipedia is working inside and outside.

I usually try to stay away from Wikipedia, because editing tends to be time consuming, but I am very curious, so I use Wikipedia a lot and I am not shy to make corrections when I come across obvious errors. I have added tons of references manually, but my efforts to edit in good faith were often met with hostile reactions (...).

It can also happen that I get carried away on one subject that I found in the news. I edit Wikipedia in all the languages I know, but Welsh is not one of them. I do read Norwegian and I know exactly where the train crash has happened: The train was much closer to Finneidfjord, than to Bjerka, hence my renaming proposal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rail_accidents_(2020%E2%80%93present)#2024

So you have deleted the mess I made, but who can please rename that page about the train accident at Finneidfjord, to fit naming conventions?

Thanks a lot in advance! (No, I will not register an account...) 82.173.160.29 (talk) 16:54, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As I've commented on the page, it's currently a draft, if it gets accepted as an article, the title can be sorted out then. There's no point moving it at the moment. Nthep (talk) 17:08, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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