User talk:Toglenn

Thank You!!

Thank you so very much for that new photo of Denise Richards! I'm not a fan of hers really but that picture was horrible and I'm glad that it is finally replaced. Dismas|^(talk) 21:37, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome!!! Yes, it was very horrible, ... and I hope Denise thanks me too :)Glenn Francis (talk) 22:33, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

I'd like to express my thanks as well. Great new photos from the AVN awards! They are much welcome. Nymf _talk/contr. 18:25, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Just a little thank you for adding great photo's to several pages I'm working on

		The Photographer's Barnstar
		For your many photographic contributions. Your work is appreciated. Freikorp (talk) 06:08, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi Freikorp - Thank You for your comment and Thank You so much for my first Wikipedia Award!!!

Glenn Francis (talk) 14:20, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Amanda Pays

You wouldn't happen to have a decent pic of Amanda Pays kicking around, would you? Dismas|^(talk) 09:59, 2 May 2010 (UTC) Sorry, I don't - but I'll watch for her next time she appears somewhere. Glenn Francis (talk) 21:48, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Hope

Sorry to see this... Can you let me in on why she didn't like it? Or what issue there was? It was a fine picture, so I don't see how she could have a problem with it. Dismas|^(talk) 14:47, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliment, Dismas! Yeah, I think it's a great photo of her too. I was expecting her response to be that she Loves it, and instead she said she hates it. She also said all photos of her have to be approved by her Publicist. I'm sending her a bunch more including previous shoots, maybe she'll like one of those. Glenn Francis (talk) 18:49, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Amazing photo contibutions! Thank you!

I've noticed recently that almost every single picture I am impressed by lately, whether it be of one of my favorite MMA fighters such as Josh Barnett, or one of my favorite adult actresses such as Eva Angelina, was taken by you. I must commend you on your near perfect photo contributions. I share many of the interests you apparently have, and I can only hope that one day I can make some sort of contributions near your level.The Doppelganger (talk) 02:10, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Danica Dillan

Hi Toglenn. Thank you!!! for photo Danica. Good Luck.Thx. Johnsmith877 (talk) 23:56, 19 December 2010

Ellen DeGeneres

Just noticed the image you created for Ellen DeGeneres. Great job! It had been a challenge to find decent free use images for her and this is a great solution! – Connormah (talk) 06:12, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi Connormah, Great to hear that my photos are appreciated..... Thanks!  :) Glenn Francis (talk) 08:17, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Relevance of photograph

Could you clarify your thoughts on images in Pornographic film actor#History? I don't see how a modern-day actress is particularly "relevant to the topics" of this specific section. To my eye, the whole article beyond this section is almost solely about modern aspects, so it seems WP:UNDUE to add yet more modern decoration to the history section. DMacks (talk) 06:17, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

DMacks - Sure. When I went onto the page - the photos there didn't make sense, so I thought I'd improve it. 1). Main Photo: Although the photo was mine - it was not a good photo for this topic, so I replaced it with a group shot of actresses which is what the page is supposed to be about. 2). History Heading. Jenna Jameson is the most well known Pornstar ever. She also revolutionized the industry with her marketing techniques - therefore she is a far better choice than the not-so-good photo of Jenna Haze. 3). Female Performers Heading. Why is there a photo of a guy there? And a super crap photo at that. So I switched the photo to two top FEMALE performers to match the heading. 4). Male Performers heading. I left the photos of four of the top Male Performers there, since that was correct. 5). Pornographic Actors and STDs Heading. Why is there a picture of a gay actor there? That's dumb. So I replaced it with a photo of Jessica Drake who is extremely active in the industry regarding the topic. She is basically the Industry's spokesmodel for HIV and AIDS awareness and prevention in the porn industry which is exactly what the topic is about. So to me, this is all very obvious. I seriously don't understand your references to "modern" aspects, since I didn't change a word of text. Please restore all of the work I did making the page far better that it was. Thank You. Glenn Francis (talk) 14:41, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

I am only addressing the History section...I think you're mixing up my edits with someone else's? But again, you are still clearly still focusing on the modern era..."most well known", "revolutionized", etc. is all about now/recent evolution of the field. To be clear, I advocate no image in that section unless we have a historically significant one (a still from first porn-film would be good, for example, but I can only find ones from remakes). DMacks (talk) 07:31, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

DMacks - Thank you for that explanation. Rereading and comprehending your message, I now understand the point you are expressing, and that it was only relating to the Histoy section of the Page. The original formatting of the page had a (modern) photo of Jenna Haze's back of which half went into the Female heading. I simply replaced that with a photo of Jenna Jameson. My apologies for thinking you were the one who removed all the photos I posted. I see now it was that psychotic, egotistical idiot 'Morbidthoughts' abusing the integrity of Wikipedia by playing his childish games again. Thanks..... Glenn Glenn Francis (talk) 09:04, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

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Wolf

Hi, I have made an article on Cassidy Wolf. Check it out.--BabbaQ (talk) 22:26, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Excellent! - Thanks BabbaQ. And thanks for letting me know. Glenn Francis (talk) 06:55, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

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Copyright 2013 by Glenn Francis

Hello. I am one of organizers of Wiki loves monuments in Ukraine. I recently noticed that some pictures attributed as Copyright 2013 by Glenn Francis (in EXIF metadata), for example

• File:Plaque in honor of 125-th anniversary of the foundation of Yasynuvata, Ukraine - Знак на честь 125-річчя заснування Ясинуватої.jpg
• File:Plaque on the administration building of the reilway branch in Yasynuvata, Urraine - Дошка на адміністативному будинку відділення залізниці у Ясинуватій.jpg
• File:Institute of the renewal surgery, Donetsk.jpg

and other images of that author. How can you explain it? Are these your pictures?--Anatoliy (Talk) 13:41, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi Ahonc

Wow, that is very strange. That metadata is all from my photo of Britney Spears: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Britney_Spears_2013.jpg

I have no idea how it got onto the photos you listed which are definitely not mine.

Photo

Hi Glenn. I need a few photos for the new article on Steve Cuozzo.[1] David Shankbone's talk page recommended you. I see you are in LA. However the photos I need for the article are in New York City. I thought there was a list some place (Category:Wikipedian photographers) that identified Wikipedian photographers by location. I can't seem to find that list. Are you headed out to New York any time soon or know of any Wikipedian photographers in New York City? Thanks. -- Jreferee (talk) 03:08, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi Jreferee, I don't have any plans for going to NY at this time. Sorry, I don't know any photographers there who I could recommend. I appreciate you contacting me and I thank David Shankbone for his recommendation! Hoping you're able to get the photos you need. thanks.... -Glenn Glenn Francis (talk) 04:38, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

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Portal:Pornography

Thanks for the great portrait photos of various people from the pornographic film business. I added a bunch of them to the portal, as whenever i tried to find a good image, yours almost always were the best. a neglected portal, but it gets a huge number of hits, so it needed some attention. hope you are noticed by readers there, as i did try to include image credits.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 02:21, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Mercurywoodrose. Thanks for the compliment on my work! Much appreciated! What portal? Can you give me a link? Thanks! Glenn Francis (talk) 02:44, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Pictures of Beverly Hills

Hello. Thank you for adding a picture of Adrienne Maloof. Are you only interested in adding pictures of actors/models, or would you please consider taking pictures of public buildings/places as well? For example, those places in Beverly Hills would do with a picture. Please reply on my talkpage. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 08:24, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. As you will see, I created some of those articles (9454 Wilshire Boulevard; Beth Jacob Congregation (Beverly Hills, California); Beverly Cañon Gardens; Beverly Hills Financial Center; Luxe Rodeo Drive Hotel; Nessah Synagogue; Roxbury Plaza; Sterling Plaza; Temple Emanuel (Beverly Hills, California); Trousdale Estates; Wilshire Beverly Center), but I haven't been back "in town" for more than a year. I will probably create more articles soon. I read The Beverly Hills Courier every week. Last time I was in town I took pictures of several places, including the Will Rogers Memorial Park and the Roxbury Memorial Park, whose pages I created. Do keep me posted when you are able to take/upload pictures (making sure no one can be seen on the pictures), and feel free to suggest some BH-related articles for creation. Btw, aside from buildings, I have also created pages about the prominent businesspeople/philanthropists from BH, including the current Mayor, Lili Bosse, who needs a picture--perhaps you could e-mail her and ask her! Ideally one in her office and another one during the Monday "Walk with the Mayor"--as long as no one else can be seen on the picture--would be good.Zigzig20s (talk) 10:46, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

There won't be a walk with the mayor this Monday because her mother has died. I expect she is unlikely to reply to e-mails as well because of Shiva (Judaism). But do let me know if you are able to take pictures of some buildings in the next few days...Zigzig20s (talk) 12:17, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Fantastic. I forgot to ask you to take a few pictures of All Saints' Episcopal Church (I'm working on a draft and will move it to a proper article soon). The Walk with the Mayor is back now that shiva is over, so whenever you get a chance to go... And yes, Trousdale is tricky; perhaps a sign of "Trousdale Estates" is all we could hope for. Please send me a link to your Wikimedia Commons account/uploads when you've uploaded them. Thank you!Zigzig20s (talk) 02:35, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Try the corner of Doheny and Loma Vista (or possibly Doheny and Hillcrest). I don't drive, so I don't pay attention to those things. You could probably drive through as there are no gates, like Bel Air, just lots of private security cars. A few pictures of Loma Vista Dr with the tall pine trees may be interesting as well. If you look up on Google Map, "Trousdale Estates, Beverly Hills, CA", you'll see where the limits are. Let me know how that goes!Zigzig20s (talk) 03:44, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Did you manage to drive up there? Let me know when you upload your picture over there. Have a nice day.Zigzig20s (talk) 19:03, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Sounds great. Let me know when you have time to upload all those pictures on Wikimedia Commons. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 08:17, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Any news? Sorry I am being impatient! Take it as a sign that your work is valued.Zigzig20s (talk) 03:16, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Fantastic. It really does improve the articles a lot! Go and have a look. Brilliant idea to take the pictures at night as well. Would you be able to take pictures of Beth Jacob Congregation (Beverly Hills, California), Wallis Annenberg Center for the Performing Arts, Temple Emanuel (Beverly Hills, California), Beverly Hills Financial Center, The Peninsula Beverly Hills, L'Ermitage Beverly Hills, The Cheese Store of Beverly Hills and Beverly Drive as well please?Zigzig20s (talk) 12:12, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Sounds great! Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 13:42, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

A bit of a stretch, but if you wanted to go the American Jewish University in Bel Air and take a picture of the Sigi Ziering Institute Exploring the Ethical and Religious Implications of the Holocaust sign to add it to Sigi Ziering's page, that would be great. I have not been there, so I am not sure where the sign is. It may be worth e-mailing them ahead of time if you do that. You could also take a few more pictures of the campus (but it's a private university, so you really do need to ask them first). An easier picture would be Temple Beth Am east of Beverly Hills, 1039 S La Cienega Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90035? I have not created the page yet, but working on it. You could also try to e-mail Temple Beth Am to see if you could take a picture of their retired rabbi, Jacob Pressman, whose page I created as well. He has a weekly column in The Beverly Hills Courier, and he is fairly prominent. But again, that is harder to do, and they have to agree, etc. It's totally up to you. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 10:51, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't realise the Zierings had their name on the synagogue! I will have to create the page. I created Sigi Ziering and Marilyn Ziering a while ago. They seem like a great family.Zigzig20s (talk) 14:19, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Will you be able to upload pictures of Beth Jacob Congregation (Beverly Hills, California), Beverly Hills Financial Center and 9454 Wilshire Boulevard please? It doesn't hurt to take more picture than one if possible btw.Zigzig20s (talk) 17:30, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you; looking forward to it. Btw, are you able to edit your description here? It's not in Beverly Hills, it's just outside; so technically speaking, it's in Los Angeles.Zigzig20s (talk) 20:33, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. For the Wallis, you took a picture of the 1933 post office. Could you please take one or several pictures of the new building designed by Zoltan Pali, behind it please? Here is an example. It's orange (the mayor's favorite color). Also, did you upload a picture of the Beverly Hills Financial Center please? I can't see it. More pictures you could take would be Coldwater Canyon Park (northward as you drive up to Franklin Canyon Park); it's not very big but I may create an article about it if I can find sufficient info about its history (for example who the landscape architect was, when it was dedicated, etc.). Finally, just outside BH is Fossil Ridge Park near Mulholland Estates. Would you be able to drive up there and take a few pictures please? This may be a fun weekend hike/stroll btw. You could also take a picture of the Mulholland Estates sign, but it is heavily guarded and they may not like it.Zigzig20s (talk) 22:18, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Yes, it's on Mulholland Dr, between Beverly Glen Blvd and Benedict Canyon Dr. There is a small gatehouse with "Mulholland Estates" signs on each side on the corner of Mulholland and "Clarendon Road" (which goes into Mulholland Estates, but I doubt they will let you go in if your name is not on the list). Now, to go to Fossil Ridge Park, it's the next street on Mulholland: corner of Mulholland and Westpark Road. You can apparently drive or walk into Westpark Road, even though it is in Mulholland Estates; however, you're not allowed to park on that street. See the LATimes article I referenced. Take as many pictures as you can and we don't have to use them all (but don't take pictures of private houses). Let me know how it goes!Zigzig20s (talk) 01:17, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Actually, another thing you could do is take more picture of Beverly Hills 9/11 Memorial Garden. I took some pictures once but it was dark and they aren't great. If you are able to take pictures of the monument, plants/marble benches and list of donors during the day, that's be great. Be sure to upload them to the Commons category. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 19:05, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Do you ever go to Burbank? It would be great if you could take a couple of pictures of Temple Beth Emet.Zigzig20s (talk) 00:08, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Sounds great. Looking forward to seeing/adding them up. Good job with Lili Bosse--did you take it during the Walk with the Mayor? Did you tell her it was for her Wikipedia page or not?Zigzig20s (talk) 14:00, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 10:18, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

You should go! I don't know Julian--I guess I will have to create his page when he gets elected, and you could take his picture then. Any chance you could contact John A. Mirisch to take his picture please?Zigzig20s (talk) 00:58, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

There'll be an article about Julian in tomorrow's Courier.Zigzig20s (talk) 01:47, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

For your information, article about the last Walk with the mayor...Zigzig20s (talk) 02:23, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Sounds great. Looking foward to seeing those pictures.Zigzig20s (talk) 01:20, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi again. Lili Bosse's picture was deleted because the license was incorrect. I don't believe she was allowed to upload that picture, as she did not take the picture herself. Your picture was fine, but you said she didn't like it. What shall we do? Are you able to take another picture of her? Otherwise I frankly thought the one you took was fine.Zigzig20s (talk) 02:26, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

I am not sure. I only upload pictures I have taken myself, as I don't fully understand the other licenses. Please don't tell them they have the option of uploading no picture--they may simply do that and we would still need a picture!! I would recommend meeting her to take another picture. Or does she have another picture she likes that she took herself? In that case, it would be very easy and quick for her to create her own account and upload the picture. I wish I were in town to teach her.Zigzig20s (talk) 03:20, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi. Have you asked Lili about taking her picture again please?Zigzig20s (talk) 12:57, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Hello. Are you able to take some pictures of Mandeville Canyon, Los Angeles please?Zigzig20s (talk) 15:40, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. Can you please take a picture of the Shulamit Gallery in Venice as well?Zigzig20s (talk) 22:41, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Photographer's Barnstar
	Thanks for contributing your photos of porn stars to Wikipedia! I have a question though. Do you own any photos of Mick Blue? If so, could you add one to his article? Rebecca1990 (talk) 08:50, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Dana Vespoli?

Do you have any recent (taken in the 2010's) photos of Dana Vespoli? There's been complaints (here & here) of the article's current photo because it is outdated (taken over 10 years ago) and low quality. I personally don't like the article's current photo either. Do you have anything better? Rebecca1990 (talk) 05:12, 17 April 2015 (UTC) Yep! Done. Glenn Francis (talk) 10:18, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Do you have any photos of

Casey Calvert (actress), Mark Wood (actor), Robby D., Brendon Miller, & Rikki Six? Rebecca1990 (talk) 03:40, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Do you have any photos of

Adrianna Luna? Rebecca1990 (talk) 11:02, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Francesca Hilton

Hello. Can you please take a picture of Francesca Hilton's gravestone at the Westwood Village Memorial Park Cemetery?Zigzig20s (talk) 23:26, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. It's a shame you never took her picture when she was still alive too...Zigzig20s (talk) 02:24, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. Re: Francesca: I don't know. Sometimes you can ask a warden (there is a small bungalow at the other end of the main entrance).Zigzig20s (talk) 04:44, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Trinity Auditorium

Hello. I am about to create a picture about this building (even though, strangely enough, it does not appear to be listed on the National Register of Historic Places...). Could you please take a picture and upload it to Wikimedia Commons? The weblink gives the address. Have a nice day.Zigzig20s (talk) 01:13, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

9th Street & Grand Avenue.Zigzig20s (talk) 01:47, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Also, could you please take a picture of Giannini Place at 7th street & olive street please? It's also downtown.Zigzig20s (talk) 05:41, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Also if you can: Commercial Exchange Building at Olive and 8th streets (which looks like this). And the Hotel Clark at 421 S Hill St, Los Angeles, CA 90013. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 05:55, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

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UCLA and Pepperdine

Hello. I was wondering if you could take a picture of the Mullin Management Commons at UCLA for my new article, Peter W. Mullin (see the campus map). Also of the Graziadio School of Business and Management in West Los Angeles for another article I created, George L. Graziadio, Jr. (not completely certain of the address however). Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 20:24, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

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Jona Goldrich's buildings

Hello. Jona Goldrich died two days ago. Would you be able to take some pictures of the buildings he developed in Downtown LA please?Zigzig20s (talk) 14:50, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Promenade Towers in Bunker Hill would be good.Zigzig20s (talk) 15:46, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. Wilshire Terrace at 10375 Wilshire Blvd would be fantastic as well.Zigzig20s (talk) 19:27, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Also if possible, The Talmadge at 3278 Wilshire Boulevard please? And while you're there, perhaps the church on the other side of the road please. Are you able to identify its name by the way? I don't know if we have a Wikipedia article about it. Thanks!Zigzig20s (talk) 19:18, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

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More pictures

Hello and happy new year. I have created new articles about LA architects: Frederick Earl Emmons, Douglas Honnold, Arthur Gallion, Maynard Lyndon, George Vernon Russell. It would be very helpful if you could take pictures of some of their buildings for Wikimedia Commons. In particular, if you are in Westwood, could you please take pictures of the 28th Church of Christ, Scientist at 1018 Hilgard Avenue and the Charles E. Young Research Library (and possibly better pictures of Bunche Hall) on the UCLA campus? Please ping me when you have. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 12:33, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Mattachine Steps in Silver Lake

Hi. Would you mind taking a few pictures of the Mattachine Steps in Silver Lake please?Zigzig20s (talk) 07:35, 30 January 2017 (UTC) Done. Glenn Francis (talk) 09:56, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

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Yamashiro Historic District images

Hallo Glenn,

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Hi Glenn, I've seen you've changed photo at the voice Riley Reid on the Italian Wikipedia. I'll translate the caption into Italian. One question: among your photos, there are some of the adult actresses Anya Olsen, Ella Hughes, Janice Griffith, Jasmine Jae, Megan Rain and Stella Cox? If so, would you have the right to publish them on Wikipedia Commons? Thank you, and excuse me for my bad English --Westmanurbe (talk) 17:33, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Westmanurbe, I will look. If I do, I'll post them to Commons and let you know. Thanks! Glenn Francis (talk) 17:55, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

• same request for Adriana Chechik. Do you have suitable photo of Addy to be used in the infobox of her article? Thanks a lot in advance. —usernamekiran(talk) 14:13, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

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Zlatopramen (English: golden source) for your amazing photo contributions.

Hi! Thanks for your adding a photo made by you. It's gorgeous. Do you live in Los Angeles? Karrueche Tran lives in Los Angeles, too. Although she is single and ready to mingle, our Trần doesn't share her images with Wikipedia. Have you got them? I've added her to etwiki, but I have got no image. It is unforgivable. --Janggun Dungan (talk) 13:15, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello Janggun, Thanks for the Compliments! I've added this award to my User Page. Regarding Karrueche Tran, I'd love to take some photos of her and post on her Wikipedia page. Please have her contact me to arrange. GlennFrancis@PacificProDigital.com. I look forward to working with her. Thanks very much! Glenn Francis (talk) 16:50, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

I appreciate your accept of my gift. Perhaps you know that beer is not only a drink in the Czech Republic, but also the nation's pride. The Czechs call it (strictly speaking, hop) "Czech gold." That was why I gave you Czech beer with the appropriate name, viz., zlatopramen, zlatý pramen, i.e. golden source or golden spring. And thanks for your Vanessa Hudgens again. While looking at this image, one can't help creaming in his pants.

As for Karrueche's contact, it is her disinclination to contact that introduces the real complexity into the problem of adding her images to the article. It is known that Wikimedia Commons allows one to upload a photo provided that its author gives permission. As an example, take Urmas Espenberg's photo: "permission is said to have arrived." With this in mind, I've already tried to contact Karrueche and ask her for permission to publish a photo of hers in Wikipedia. There are a few ways to contact her. Her e-address is available on her Facebook page (Karrueche Tran on Facebook). Besides, her official website allows one to send her a message. The fact is she ignores my request. I think it is because she is pretty and famous, with the consequence that she gives herself airs and replies to nobody except film directors and beautiful guys like Alain Delon. Unlike me, you are a professional and experienced photographer. You can make a stunning portrait. She will certainly be glad to get this opportunity. Personally, I can't arrange anything because I attempted to contact her, but failed. I thought you had her photos because you worked with stars in Los Angeles. Pardon. --Janggun Dungan (talk) 13:39, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

@Toglenn: "Please have her contact me to arrange." I've just found out that Karrueche Tran writes on her Instagram page: "Text me! 323-310-0088." What do you think? Can she be reached? To tell the truth I suspect the authenticity of this phone number although the phone code (323) refers to Los Angeles indeed. I'm not in a position to try myself because I don't understand spoken English. As for other contacts of hers, I haven't got them. It would be wonderful if a master like you could take a photo of hers for Wikipedia. --Janggun Dungan (talk) 07:23, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

Samantha Robinson

Thank you for asking me. She doesn't have her own page. So your guess is as good mine. Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 03:31, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

I noticed you created a page for her. That's great! Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 23:33, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

If you can think of anything to add, please do. Thanks. Glenn Francis (talk) 01:10, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

An approach

Hi Glenn, I'm reaching out here because of some of the things you said at ANI. Please let me start by saying that you are entirely within your rights to remove anything I put here - this is your talk page, if you don't want me commenting here simply revert me and I'll stay away.

Please let me be very clear - I do not hate you, I have nothing against you as an editor, and I don't want you to stop contributing. Yes, we disagreed about the picture on Blond, but seriously, disagreements happen all the time. There's nothing personal about it, it's not win or lose, it's all about discussion, multiple viewpoints, and eventual consensus.

If you are interested in an example of what I'm talking about, look at this, and the subsequent discussion on the article's talk page. By a strange coincidence, the editor who reverted me there was the same one who reverted you on Blond. We had a discussion about it - if I'm honest,I still don't entirely agree with her perspective, but another editor chimed in who agreed with her,so I let it drop.

You upload a lot of images to the site. I haven't looked through them extensively, but if Rhondendentrites says that most of them are obvious improvements, I'm prepared to believe that. The only beef I have with you is your eagerness to revert instead of discussing, and the hyperbole you use in discussions. I do not have OWN issues, Serge is not a vandal, etc. If you would commit to toning down your rhetoric when faced with people who, in good faith, disagree with you, I am sure that you and I could get along just fine.

I'm done - if you revert me, I'll stay away. If you'd like to reply, or take issue with anything I've said, please do so and I promise to respond. GirthSummit _(blether) 20:34, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Girth: Thanks for coming here to explain and discuss. You are always welcome here for that purpose.

Here is my take: It’s a sad day in Wikipedia History

When I first started posting to Wikipedia, I was having trouble getting my photos approved because they were too “professional-looking” some administrators of the time realized the value of my photos and decided to help me all they could. One of them made the attribution license banner which you see on the description page which allowed me to not have to go through OTRS all the time. I was mentored well and obeyed all the rules. I knew I could post as many photos as I wanted and not violate a self-promotion rule. I knew not to edit war which is why I went to the admin board to ask for help when SergeWoodzing tried to edit war with me. I always obeyed the rules and never did anything wrong. It wasn’t until I went onto the ‘Blond’ Article which you decided you owned which is why I placed the WP:OWN tag after your constant harassment. It was you who started provoking me and accusing me of Self-Promotion and other false things.

Now you’re on a vengeance crusade to get me banned by falsely claiming self-promotion and misconduct. It’s a sad day in Wikipedia history when an occasional poster of photos knows the rules better than the admins and is sought out be banned for that.

It's not what you say that counts, it's what you do. And you're the one who is making all these proposals to ban me. If you truly mean what you are saying, The thing to do is to disavow and remove those proposals and propose that we drop this entire nonsense completely.

Thanks..... -Glenn

Glenn, I wonder if you've misunderstood the nature of my proposal. I have not suggested that you be banned from Wikipedia, or even from uploading images. I've only suggested that you be banned from edit warring - from reverting other people who remove your images - and formally required to discuss it with them. That is literally how most good editors conduct themselves, whether they work with text or with images - if someone reverts you, don't reinstate, head to the talk page.

With regard to Blond - seriously, how do you get to OWN issues? Five Seven people took part in that discussion - four five of them thought your pictures were inappropriate, and one (you) didn't. The seventh didn't express an opinion on the image, the merely passed some negative comments on your approach to editing. I'm serious, and I'm not meaning to be condescending - how do you get from a fourfive-to-one consensus against your edits to me having OWN issues?

I'd also point out that I have never, anywhere, accused you of self-promotion. I have indicated that your actions might be viewed in that way, and to be honest I think that suggestion has been borne out by the ANI thread - not that you are engaged in self-promotion, but that people might see it that way. They did. I tried to warn you that might happen. If I believed you were definitely guilty of self-promotion, I would have said so, and recommended that you be site-banned (in other words, blocked from editing forever). All I have proposed is that you be prevented from engaging in edit wars, and from replacing pictures without an explanatory edit summary.

Your point about deeds rather than words being important is well-made, so I'm happy to meet you on that. If you are prepared to accept that you broke the rules before Serge did (again, see WP:BRD - you   had already reinstated your reverted edit once before Serge even got there), and to apologise to them for what you said about them being a vandal, then I would be convinced that my proposed TBan is unnecessary, and I will say so at ANI. You don't need to apologise to me - say what you like about me (within reason), I have a fairly thick skin - but what you said about Serge was unfair, and should be retracted. Own that you should have acted differently, agree not to act in the same way in future, and we're good. Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 21:49, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi User: Girth Summit Thanks for your Proposal - Much Appreciated. Unfortunately, I didn't see it in time. I'm not sure you realize the detrimental residual consequences of your T-Ban proposal. Some people are now going around reverting my images back to the POS ones that were there prior. For example, my photo of Prad Pitt, Margo Robbie, and Leonardo DiCaprio (whoever they are) on the Celebrity page to Andy Warhol.

Why Andy Warhol? There are far more "Celebrity" historical figures then him, all in the public domain. What about George Washington? He's far more of an A-List "celebrity" than Andy Warhol. In fact, you probably have a picture of him in your wallet right now. There's many others also. Go onto any "celebrity" website or magazine and they will all be loaded with A-List "Celebrities" such as John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, Christopher Colombus, Pochahontas, Julius Ceazer, and many more. All much bigger "celebrities" than Brad Pitt, Margo Robbie, and Leonardo DiCaprio. Yes, these editors all know what is the best image for articles.

A sad day in Wikipedia History indeed.Glenn Francis (talk) 20:52, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

All you have to do is discuss it with them politely and convince them that your picture is better. That's what you should have done before your TBan, and it's what you shoul do now. With regard to Andy Warhol, I believe he's there because he's mentioned in the text, is that not correct? GirthSummit _(blether) 09:07, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Ah - it's the 'fifteen minutes of fame' thing. Well, as someone who both was a celebrity, and contributed perhaps the most widely quoted phrase on the nature of celebrity, I can see a strong rationale for using Warhol over other random celebrities. What would be the particular arguments in favour of the others? GirthSummit _(blether) 09:43, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi User:Girth Summit Thank you for posting the rules regarding having an assistant posting a photo. That will not happen. It just seemed like a good solution, and a way to put a distance between and myself and other users. But since doing that has its own problems, and I'm still allowed to post, if I do decide to post a photo again, I'll do it myself according to Wikipedia rules and the conditions outlined.

Regarding your comment "All you have to do is discuss it with them politely and convince them that your picture is better. That's what you should have done before your TBan, and it's what you shoul do now.," please be aware that I did nothing different than what I've been doing for the last 12 years without any real problems until I encountered you. My replies to the absurd and vicious attacks I occasionally received were quite mild to those of the attackers and conversations I've read between other editors.

Regarding Andy Warhol, who's 15 minutes of fame expired decades ago, I'm not going to go onto the Celebrity article to beg for someone to realize the extremely obvious. I might as well go onto the 'Flat Earth Society's' webpage and argue that the Earth is actually round like a ball and not flat. Thousands and thousands of people have made famous sayings. If there's not a single editor on Wikipedia who does not know the difference between a relatively obscure, and long-forgotten decades-old painter and real celebrities who are constantly on the covers of every celebrity magazine, website, Award Show, News station, Social Media, and ANYTHING related to celebrities ad nauseam, I don't care. I receive absolutely NO benefit what-so-ever. Glenn Francis (talk) 16:45, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

P.S. Girth, Thank you for explaining to User:Pxos the rules about User Page content deletion by the User. Very Professional.Glenn Francis (talk) 17:04, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi Glenn, it wasn't me who posted those rules - it was NinjaRobotPirate, an uninvolved administrator (and a functionary, for what it's worth), who closed the thread at ANI and enacted the topic ban. As I've said below, you're at liberty to remove the notice if you wish to do so, there's no obligation for you to keep it on this page. And you're welcome regarding the stuff about removing stuff from your userpage - I genuinely try to treat people fairly and in-line with policy, regardless of whether I've been involved in conflict with them, and I'll be happy to help you in any way I can if people are treating you unfairly about this.

Your second paragraph above seems to suggest that you still think there was nothing wrong with your editing. Believe me, I do not have enough clout here to get a raft of experienced administrators to support a TBan without there being any substance to the concerns. An overwhelming consensus of admins and other editors at that thread agreed that your editing was problematic - even if you didn't know it, please believe me when I tell you that it was.

Here's how the editing process is supposed to work: Adam makes an edit. Brenda disagrees and reverts it. Adam doesn't get angry (or if he does, he doesn't show it); he just starts a thread on the talk page to explain why he thinks it's an improvement. At this point, Brenda might be persuaded and the edit could be reinstated; however, if Brenda isn't in agreement, the status quo ante (the state of the article prior to Adam's edit) is retained until Charlie, Doug and Elsie turn up and discuss it further. If a consensus can't be reached through regular discussion, there are formal dispute resolution channels - an RfC is a common approach, where a suggestion is made, people either support or oppose it, and an uninvolved editor comes along, weighs the consensus, and either changes or doesn't change the article. If no consensus can be reached, a new proposal might be made, but the status quo ante is retained until some form of consensus is reached. (That was what happened on the Blond article last year - there was an RfC that arrived at a formal consensus for what image to use. Flyer22 and I were just ensuring that the decision it reached was honored until a new consensus was established.)

Your approach, at multiple articles identified in the ANI thread, is rather different - you repeatedly reinstated your edits without gaining consensus to do so - that's simply not how things are done. I understand that the method I've outlined above is cumbersome - yes, it is, but it nevertheless works pretty well, and it's what we have to abide by.

No one is suggesting that you need to beg for anything - but you can, if you like, engage in reasoned, grown-up discussion. You're not obliged to do anything, this is an entirely volunteer project, so if you're not that bothered then just leave it and allow other people to choose the imagery for the articles.

I don't imagine that you want any tips from me about effective argumentation, but I'll give you one anyway in case you do decide to engage on the talk page: telling people that their view is wrong, and that your view is extremely obvious for anyone to see, isn't persuasive, and it's likely to make people entrench their positions. Making outlandish comparisons, like the one above concerning the Flat Earth Society, or the one you made at the blond article about lions and horses, is not persuasive, and it's likely to make people question your judgment. Overblown statements, such as your description of Andy Warhol, probably the most famous American artist of the Twentieth Century, as a 'long-forgotten painter', are frankly ridiculous. If I wanted to make the case that you are putting forward, I would couch it in terms that would be likely to actually win people over, for example: "I appreciate the link between Andy Warhol and the 'fifteen minutes of fame' quote; I'm just not really convinced that it's sufficiently current for the lead image. Perhaps Warhol could go somewhere further down in the article, but I feel that the lead image ought to be a person who most people nowadays would recognise as a celebrity." I suggest to you that an approach along those lines is massively more likely to win people over to your point of view - no hyperbole, no accusations of vandalism, just a sensible, reasoned argument. Whether or not you can be bothered to engage on the talk page is entirely down to you. Good luck. GirthSummit _(blether) 17:38, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi User:Girth Summit Thanks for your valuable explanation of how to proceed if one of my photos is reverted. Very helpful. Also very helpful is your sample way to correctly respond - I will use it as a template, only changing a few names or words to fit the title of the Article. I don't think I'll touch anything for a while. For the benefit of the 900 people per day who access the "Celebrity" article, and for a significant improvement of a Wikipedia Article and credibility, - and if you truly believe in many things you said you believe, I think it would most appropriate if you were to exchange the poorly chosen photo of Warhol with the one I placed using the explanation that you just wrote for me. I'm sure the User who placed that photo will agree. Thanks Glenn Francis (talk) 18:50, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

I'm making dinner just now, but I might go over to the talk page tomorrow and start a discussion along those lines. I wouldn't start by inserting your image - I'd start by initiating a discussion, to see whether the idea that Warhol isn't really current enough gains traction. If that's accepted, I'll ask for others' thoughts on an appropriate replacement photo. I won't wade in there and try to impose my views - I'll try to build a consensus, taking into account as many people's thoughts as I can. I won't be against using a photo of yours - the creator of the image isn't a criterion I think would be relevant. Hope that makes sense? GirthSummit _(blether) 19:18, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

User:Girth Summit Yes, Thank you. much appreciated.Glenn Francis (talk) 20:47, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

So, I've been giving this a bit of thought today. My problem is that I can't think of a more suitable subject. Celebrity, and its relationship with advertising and pop culture, was the subject of much of his work. It's not so much that he is a celebrity, it's more that he is particularly associated with celebrity because of his work. While I think that a more current subject would be a good thing, I can't actually think of a modern person who would be connected with celebrity in such a clear way. I think that having a picture of a random celeb, with no clear selection criteria other than 'famousness', would be a bad thing - it would be like an invitation for edit wars, I can already see people arguing over who's the most famous, a subjective question that could never be resolved satisfactorily. I think that, if we wanted to replace the picture of Warhol, we'd need to identify a currently famous person, who is also associated with the nature of celebrity in a similar way - nobody is jumping into my mind, but if you can think of someone, I'd be happy to consider it. Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 13:37, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi User: Girth Summit

I’m hoping you may want to consider the idea of working together with the goal of improvement of Wikipedia. When I first started posting to Wikipedia, I used to do that a lot with the Admins. Whenever they needed a photo of a celebrity or something in Los Angeles, they would ask me if I had one or could take one. That’s why you’ll see photos of buildings and historical places throughout my gallery. If your goal is to be a notable outstanding Administrator, this would be a good move. Like two opposing politicians putting aside their party’s ideology and agreeing to work together for the common good.

My style of communicating is honest and direct. Though I prefer you talk honestly, you don’t have to if you don’t want to. You are you and I am me. I will use your example of politely buttering people up with insincere flattery before posting if I absolutely have to say anything – I really should get in the habit of doing this and you are right about that. But here I prefer to talk honestly. I’ve seen Elite Hi-level Admin's rip you to pieces and it doesn’t even faze you – so I know you can take it.

So…to be honest, I think you’re afraid to change the celebrity photo because you’re concerned it will be reverted or you’ll be ridiculed for doing so. I don’t know that for sure, but that’s what I honestly think, and that you would discover the reality of this system of asking politely if you can revert someone else’s photo, as opposed of simply replacing it – a method that does work and what just about everyone does. I think also it’s because you don’t have one or can’t think of one that fully encompasses the topic of Celebrity unless it’s one of mine. But there is one that does – My photo of Brad Pitt, Margo Robbie, and Leonardo DiCaprio. I’ve been waiting a long time for the perfect photo for this topic, I finally get one, then you come along and get me banned and the perfect photo gets reverted, and you’re afraid to replace it.

Some other things.

I don’t replace existing good and appropriate images, I just move on. I have thousands of other photos I can place. An example is Leonardo DiCaprio. I have some excellent photos of him, but there was already a good one of him, so I didn’t. There are many more examples, but it would be ridiculous to list them all.

Regarding my remark about posting on foreign Wiki’s and not evaluating existing photos, which you championed as the primary reason for a T-Ban. I may not have fully explained what I was doing at that time. Of course I saw the existing photos, it’s impossible not to when you’re on a page. But all I was doing was giving them an additional photo that they could use or not use however they wanted at their discretion – no reason to evaluate every photo on the page.

I see that some editors including you expressed concern that I’ve posted photos on foreign language Wikipedia’s, falsely stating that the reason is for self-promotion. That’s simply not true. This is a recent thing I started brought on by request.

Contrary to the popular opinion of many Americans, the U.S. is not the only country in the World. I know so many people who live in foreign countries and most are multi-lingual. Since I started posting to Wikipedia, around 2008, people have been asking me if I could post my photos on their Wikipedia’s.

As far as photos of people are concerned, the vast majority of them on the English Wikipedia are Horrible! It’s much much worse on the foreign Wikipedia’s. Many pages don’t even have photos. I simply give them an image in which they can do whatever they want with it. They can use it, delete it, I don’t care – it’s their Wikipedia and they can do with it whatever they want. The reception has been very positive.

With the exception of the editors who were quick to falsely accuse me of self-promotion, this sharing of Images on other Wikipedia’s is universally considered a good thing, and I receive a whole lot of Thank-yous.

I do not understand why there are actually people who oppose this sharing of images for other people to see. Selfishness? I don’t know – I’m not a Psychologist. I believe the purpose of educational websites such as Wikipedia is to share information, not just locally, but globally.

Other consequences of your T-Ban success is the collateral damage caused by people such as Binksternet going around reverting all my photos is what is truly detrimental to Wikipedia, not my reply to some unregistered drama queen troll who had never heard of Bebe Rexha saying she didn’t look like a human and started worrying that the poor girl might have had some horrible surgery to make herself look like that. Or some Schadenfreude-ridden Perez Hilton wannabe thinking Wikipedia is the National Enquirer. Mass deletions of legitimate exceptional images to me seem like the exact definition of Vandalism, but unbelievably this highly destructive behavior is actually going on. I would really like to hear your evaluation of the conversation that happened on the Bebe Rexha Talk page. This is my first and only encounter with Binksternet.

Please let me know. Thanks….. Glenn Glenn Francis (talk) 02:05, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Toglenn, hi Glenn, there's a lot in your post. I'm about to head to work, but I'll reply quickly to the main points - let me know if I miss anything important.

First up, read WP:NPA. It's a policy, rather than a guideline, meaning that it should be policed quite vigorously. Describing another editor, even one who chooses to edit under an IP rather than a named account, a "drama queen troll" is a personal attack - you should not do that, regardless of how plain speaking you like to be. Comment on the edit, not on the editor.

I'm not 'afraid' to change the photograph - rather, I can't think of a convincing rationale for doing so. As an administrator, I am supposed to set an example in my editing conduct. A couple of other editors have already made it clear that they believe the image of Warhol is better - our editing guidelines dictate that I should not change it without engaging in discussion with them and first gaining a consensus. So, even if I had a clear rationale for changing it, I first need to do that. If you can help me come up with a clear argument for why your picture (or another one) is better, I'll use it, but what I won't do is wade in with my size 10 admin boots on and say 'this picture is better, it must stay', and attempt to win the discussion by force of authority - if I start doing that, I'd be brought before ArbCom pretty quick myself and have my boots taken off me.

Now, regarding your point about simply making a change, rather than discussing being an acceptable approach - that's true, up until someone reverts that change. Read WP:BRD - a bold change is OK, and then a revert it OK. Undoing the revert without discussing it is not OK.

With regard to the foreign wikis stuff, I'm sorry if I misrepresented how you edited on them - I read your own words literally, and if they weren't true, I wish you'd corrected me on the ANI thread. Still, your TBan only applies on EnWiki - it has no influence on your editing elsewhere. FWIW, I am not American, I have lived and worked in various countries, I speak French reasonably well (well enough to read a French Wiki article, if not well enough to write good enough prose to edit in French), and have enough of a few other languages to order a beer.

Finally, you asked me to comment on the discussion at Bebe Rexha's talk page. I had a quick look now - I've got to admit that most of what I see is you insulting people and attempting to belittle them. Seriously, go back and look at it yourself - I can't see a single comment by Binksternet or the IP directed at you, they are only commenting on the image. You insult them both, several times. That discussion is a perfect example of how not to conduct a conversation. As for the image, I can see both sides of the argument. Your images look very 'glossy', which a lot of people wouldn't like aesthetically; however, if the image guidelines do indeed call for an image like the one you have described (can you give me a link to the relevant guideline?), then your image is a better fit for that, and there would be a strong argument for retaining it. GirthSummit _(blether) 07:35, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

I've spent a bit of time looking for guidelines on preferred composition for images of people, I haven't found it yet. In the discussion Bebe Rexha, you seemed to referring to some guidelines for what is preferred - I assume they come from a guideline I haven't found yet, can you give me a link? Thanks GirthSummit _(blether) 10:57, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Well, if you couldn’t find one, I doubt if I could. However, in the world of Celebrity Photography, there is only one pose that reigns supreme, and it is absolute. That one supreme pose is the person facing the camera and looking directly into the lens - anything else is relatively next to worthless. That is the money shot and that’s what every celebrity photographer strives to obtain. If you look through my gallery, that is the pose you’ll see in all my photos. If you look through any Celebrity photo agency such as Getty Images, you'll see that pose is the first shots featured of that celeb. Although I’ve seen that said from time to time on Wikipedia, I don’t recall when or where.

I think that might be why there is disagreement. I'm sure you have a first-rate knowledge of the expectations of celebrity photography, and what makes a good shot for a glossy magazine. It could be argued that we are looking for a different type of composition when we are looking for an encyclopedic, instructional image. Personally, and this is entirely my own preference rather than being informed by any policy, I generally find images where the subject is looking directly at the lens quite distracting; I would also generally rather have the subject doing something (perhaps what they are known for, so in the case of a singer, singing) rather than posing for a photograph. There are lots of other factors to consider, so I'm not saying that I'd !vote against any image where the subject is looking at the camera, it's just a general preference. This is all very subjective though, unless anyone can dig out a policy or guideline - if such a thing can be identified, I would obviously be prepared to support edits made in accordance with it. Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 07:20, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

User:Girth Summit I shoot lots of other things besides glamour and celebs, such as concerts and other live performances. These are most of my best shots, and the ones I usually win awards for.

For an encyclopedia, regarding photos of people, the reason for a photo is to show what the person looks like. A hi-quality straight-on photo of a person looking at the camera does that perfectly. Anything else, especially performance shots, usually don’t.

Since there seems to be no discoverable well-defined policy on composition and quality, anyone can post whatever crap they want and edit war with anyone who tries to replace it, such as the current situation with “Disc jockey” and many others which are loaded with crap photos.Glenn Francis (talk) 00:11, 20 November 2019 (UTC) I agree that photos where the subject is not looking at the camera, are at times preferable. An example would be the subject of "Violinist". I would expect to see a well-composed photo of a violinist playing a Violin, as opposed to a person looking at the camera, or worse - a picture of just a violin, since the subject is about the act of playing violin, - not about who is playing the violin or the instrument.Glenn Francis (talk) 00:35, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

I think your point about the violinist is right, and I think that's why people didn't like your image of Bad Ash on Disk Jockey. I believe you when you say she was DJing at that event; I'm also happy to believe that you just caught her in the middle of her set, and so she was DJing at the time. However, the point is that she didn't look like she was DJing - she looked like she was posing for a picture, with a big smile, and her eyes on the lens, not on her decks. For an article about her, it wouldn't be such a big deal, but for an article about DJing, I'd expect less of a focus on the individual, and more on the act itself. A picture of a DJ focused intently on what they were doing, maybe flipping a cross fader, or finding the right track on a disk, would give a better sense of the artistry involved.

Anyway, I don't know if there's anything more to say here. Please carry on as you were - but if someone disagrees with you, just talk it out with them rather than resorting to insult. You catch more flies with honey (or, as I think you called it, insincere flattery!) than you do with vinegar. Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 01:47, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

User:Girth Summit Your explanation as to the problem with the DJ Bad Ash photo is exceptional. Finally. Thank you.Glenn Francis (talk) 02:21, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

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Are you interested to do this ? By the way, I saw that your photos are of a perfect quality, so it will be very great in my opinion if you accept this little mission. - Groupir ! (talk) 16:04, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi Groupir !. Done. contact to me by email. GlennFrancis@PacificProDigital.com Thanks.

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