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MOS:ROLEBIO states that only the most notable of roles/professions/occupations should be stated in the lede sentence in describing the subject. While Gomez does have songwriting credits across her albums, the one problem I see is there is no mention at all in the article expounding on her songwriting artistry, something that is definitely not lacking in articles about other artists who are notable songwriters, like Taylor Swift, Lionel Richie, Carole King or Alanis Morissette, for example, among lots of others. Examples of what can be included are their inspiration to write (or compose, in terms of the music itself compared to the lyrics) and whether they have been recognized via awards or other accolades related to songwriting (like an ASCAP award or the Grammy award for Song of the Year). But the point is that it makes no sense to state her being a songwriter if there is no coverage at all in the article demonstrating notability about it. MPFitz1968 (talk) 18:52, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It definitely surprised me to see how the "artistry" section says nothing about lyrics, themes, or anything else that pertains to songwriting. That would be an ideal place to elaborate on them. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 19:26, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We've been over this so many times on Wikipedia. The first sentence of the lede lists the most notable professions of the artist. The infobox lists the most notable as well as secondary professions. Selena Gomez has 73 songwriting credits, incl. many credits pertaining to her most recent material. She is a regular co-writer of some of her work, and songwriter is factually one of her main professions, "notable" or not. This is just to let readers know she is a singer and songwriter (as opposed to singer-songwriter). Israell (talk) 06:27, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I only added "songwriter" to the infobox, not the lede (another editor added it to the lede). And I've included a source, which is sufficient. The fact is, more and more and more singers these days also write or co-write some of their songs at least. It's becoming part for the course and it's a big part of their artistry. Without their contributions to the writing, the songs would be incomplete. Israell (talk) 06:58, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 03:30, 17 November 2023 (UTC)