Talk:Khatri

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Khatri article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7: 30 days

Please stay calm and civil while commenting or presenting evidence, and do not make personal attacks. Be patient when approaching solutions to any issues. If consensus is not reached, other solutions exist to draw attention and ensure that more editors mediate or comment on the dispute.

This article has not yet been rated on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

India: Punjab Low‑importance

	India portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject India, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of India-related topics. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page.IndiaWikipedia:WikiProject IndiaTemplate:WikiProject IndiaIndia
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	Punjab portal This article is supported by WikiProject Punjab (India) (assessed as Low-importance).

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

Anthropology Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Anthropology, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Anthropology on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.AnthropologyWikipedia:WikiProject AnthropologyTemplate:WikiProject AnthropologyAnthropology
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the importance scale.

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

Sociology Low‑importance

	Society portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Sociology, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of sociology on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SociologyWikipedia:WikiProject SociologyTemplate:WikiProject Sociologysociology
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

The contentious topics procedure applies to this page. This page is related to India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan, which has been designated as a contentious topic.

Editors who repeatedly or seriously fail to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process may be blocked or restricted by an administrator. Editors are advised to familiarise themselves with the contentious topics procedures before editing this page.

The use of the contentious topics procedure has been authorised by the community for pages related to South Asian social groups, including this page. Editors who repeatedly or seriously fail to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process may be sanctioned.

Removal of alternate identification of Kathaíoi tribe

Recently User:Codegeass123 has been removing content that provides an alternate identification that the Kathaíoi tribe mentioned in Greek sources were Kaṭha Brahmins. It is claimed that the content is "irrelevant and misleading". I disagree that it is irrelevant, as it provides an important alternate view that the Kathaíoi tribe was not the ancestor of modern Khatris but rather an alternate social group. It is also not misleading, as

"Note also the fierce Kathaíoi "tribe" (i.e. Kaṭha Brahmins) who live in the same area as the Salva (and Mahāvṛṣa) at the time of Alexander . . . Arrian, Anabasis 5.22. This "tribe" is reported to be one of the fiercest in north-west India. Alexander was almost killed in the siege of its major town, Sággala. Normally it is not in the nature of Brahmins to be in the forefront of battles, but obviously their name here stands for that of the tribe; cf. Patañjali, Mahābhāṣya 6.3.42:157.14 kaṭhadeśīya, kaṭhajātīya, (cf. also Kaṭhī vṛndārikā = Kaṭhavṛndārikā"the female chief", or "the wife of the chief of the Kaṭha" 6.3.42:157.13). All of this indicates that Kaṭha also is the name of a territory and "tribe/caste" (jāti). Cf. Wirth & v. Hinüber 1985: 929, cf. p. 1096." ^[1]

Chariotrider555 (talk) Chariotrider555 (talk) 00:06, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Chariotrider555 and Codegeass123: I'd say it is very much relevant to put the alternative theory. I don't see a reason to remove it, especially since it is coming from a reputable source Michael Witzel. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:36, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Witzel here is speaking of the Kathaíoi here not Khatris. The Khaṭas were brahminical preists, on the contrary, the Khatris are warrior/pastorial tribe. This part doesnt belong here. The two name sound similar hence have been merged by the author of this article. Infact the cited reference by Witzel itself never claims "Khatris" to have originally been Khaṭa brahmins. (Please refer to pg 140-141).

It is a misquotation. Codegeass123 (talk) 10:17, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Chariotrider555 and Codegeass123: The Greek described Kathaiois were equated to the "Khatri" by Baij Nath Puri and S. Sasikanta Sastri in there books, Witzel on otehr hand is simply providing an alternative theory that Kathaiois were infact "Katha Brahmins". So it is very relevant and WP:DUE, since we are providing difference opinions on Kathaiois. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:22, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Chariotrider555 I agree that there is no legitimate cause for them to remove the cited statement proposing an alt. theory of origin. I have reverted their edit. ThethPunjabi (talk) 17:11, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 3 September 2023

It is requested that an edit be made to the semi-protected article at Khatri. (edit · history · last · links · protection log)

This template must be followed by a complete and specific description of the request, that is, specify what text should be removed and a verbatim copy of the text that should replace it. "Please change X" is not acceptable and will be rejected; the request must be of the form "please change X to Y".

The edit may be made by any autoconfirmed user. Remember to change the |answered=no parameter to "yes" when the request has been accepted, rejected or on hold awaiting user input. This is so that inactive or completed requests don't needlessly fill up the edit requests category. You may also wish to use the {{ESp}} template in the response. To request that a page be protected or unprotected, make a protection request.

BadalChawla1550 (talk) 16:50, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

khatri is a warrior caste claimed ,,, its not trading community

Semi-protected edit request on 3 September 2023 (2)

It is requested that an edit be made to the semi-protected article at Khatri. (edit · history · last · links · protection log)

This template must be followed by a complete and specific description of the request, that is, specify what text should be removed and a verbatim copy of the text that should replace it. "Please change X" is not acceptable and will be rejected; the request must be of the form "please change X to Y".

The edit may be made by any autoconfirmed user. Remember to change the |answered=no parameter to "yes" when the request has been accepted, rejected or on hold awaiting user input. This is so that inactive or completed requests don't needlessly fill up the edit requests category. You may also wish to use the {{ESp}} template in the response. To request that a page be protected or unprotected, make a protection request.

BadalChawla1550 (talk) 16:53, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

KHATRI IS A WARRIOR CASTE ITS NOT TRADING OR SCRIBING CASTE

PUNJABI KHATRI IS A WARRIOR CLAN IT S NOT TRADING COMMUNITY HOWEVER IT BEGAN ITS ROLE IN BUSINESS AFTER PARTITION

PUNJABI KHATRI IS A WARRIOR CLAN IT S NOT TRADING COMMUNITY HOWEVER IT BEGAN ITS ROLE IN BUSINESS AFTER PARTITION BadalChawla1550 (talk) 16:55, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

^ Witzel, Michael (2023). "The Realm of the Kuru: Origins and Development of the First State in India". Electronic Journal of Vedic Studies. 28 (1): 140–141.

[1] Witzel, Michael (2023). "The Realm of the Kuru: Origins and Development of the First State in India". Electronic Journal of Vedic Studies. 28 (1): 140–141.

[1]