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Tallahassee population

As noted in my post - which some brilliant soul has already archived so nobody will ever see it again - I did go look at the Census Bureau site in an effort to clear up the discrepancy. Thanks for pointing me to the original census files - but they are huge, and it's really not worth my time to wade through all that. Appreciate your kind intention, though. Textorus (talk) 01:40, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Bannered US 1 Routes in Georgia

The purpose of the bannered routes articles is to have them all at one location. To break them out by state again defeats the whole purpose of the article. If the data is good, then simply port the data onto the bannered routes article and not at the state. --WashuOtaku (talk) 01:10, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what you mean. They're still all listed there, just no longer redundantly. --NE2 01:32, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I mean that the bannered routes would be listed on the "bannered routes" page and not on the state page that you have moved them back too. Originally, before the advent of "bannered routes" they were scattered in various state pages and it was decided to redirected them all at one location if there were a lot of them... US 1 being one of those. Basically, I'm asking you to please move them back to the bannered routes page. --WashuOtaku (talk) 02:19, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't move them to the state page; they were already there. I merely moved the one-sentence histories. --NE2 02:47, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Not sure if you're interested, but I created Boca Ciega Bay and Clam Bayou. Would be happy to have your expertise and assistance in fixing them up. Candleabracadabra (talk) 20:09, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

History of Brevard County, Florida

Do you know what happened to the content of the article which used to be at namespace:

History of Brevard County, Florida ?

It seems to me that A) there was content there that was not present in the Brevard County article, and B) the proper way to handle this situation would have been to create a more summarized section in the Brevard County article, and have a link to a comprehensive article on the "History of Brevard County, Florida".

There doesn't seem to be any history of the former content when one clicks on history. Could that content even be restored if it was determined that that is what should be done? I happen to be working on content in this area, and there is a category that goes along with this content. It seems to me that an article should exist, consistent with all the other cities and counties which are handled that way. Greg Bard (talk) 19:15, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind. For some reason, I wasn't seeing it when I clicked on history. I found it and reverted it. Perhaps we should summarize better in the main article on Brevard, but there is sufficient content for it, and the content, due to its nature, merits its own comprehensive article. Greg Bard (talk) 19:20, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

And reverted back. As it is, there are two articles with essentially the same text. --NE2 19:53, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The proper way to deal with this, is to summarize the comprehensive article in sections in the Brevard County article, as I have stated. This is the way it is handled everywhere else. Are we going to have a problem here? Greg Bard (talk) 20:05, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No, we won't have a problem if the article is summarized properly. --NE2 20:09, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

C.A. "Bill" Benedict Bridge

Zoom in on this sign to your right. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 18:36, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

All I'm looking for at this point, is what the "C.A." stood for, and when this man died.
Yep, it's a random meaningless ceremonial name. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a common name for the new bridge.
Here's some stuff about him: http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1987-01-29/news/0100340224_1_benedict-ben-watts-district-5 http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1993-03-28/news/9303250606_1_bill-benedict-bridge-johns-river http://www.zoominfo.com/p/C.A.-Benedict/256820266 --NE2 19:24, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the tips. Hey, have you ever been to the old bridge? User:Ebyabe took some in 2010, and it looked like it was in better condition when he took it. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 20:42, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I was there in about 2000. I probably have photos lying around somewhere. --NE2 20:54, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

U.S. Route 76 in Georgia

Why are you purposefully adding gaps in the route when it was all listed? --WashuOtaku (talk) 17:42, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't add a gap, but directed readers to the SR 515 article to avoid a long redundancy and associated problems with different information in either one. --NE2 18:15, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I swore I detailed US 76 through Georgia before the jct list was moved to its own page. It didn't have a gap then; if the problem is different information, then simply cut-paste the one that is correct. It's better to lay it all out there without the user having jump to another article for just a section of road. --WashuOtaku (talk) 18:49, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Are you planning to watch both articles and copy changes from one to the other every time someone changes only one? Can you guarantee that you won't stop at some point? --NE2 19:21, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You are talking about a junction list, which for all intents and purposes shouldn't change much once in place. If something major changes, I am sure I or someone else will update the articles as needed. But there is no guarantee, which is true for all stand-alone road articles needing updates but haven't yet for various reasons. --WashuOtaku (talk) 19:36, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Why wouldn't it change? There are old alignments that could be added, perhaps other major non-state routes... U.S. Route 9 in New Jersey, a so-called "good article", does not include the junctions on the US 1 overlap. --NE2 20:03, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Of course change is a constant, but they don't change overnight. The next change on US 76 could be months away or years away. Comparing how other articles do it doesn't justify the laziness of it. --WashuOtaku (talk) 20:30, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It's not lazy to take into account long-term quality of the article. What's lazy is putting the same thing in three different articles and expecting others to keep them consistent (which they already weren't - SR 515 had a SR 5 Alt. that hasn't existed for quite some time, while neither SR 5 nor US 76 had it). --NE2 21:23, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Fine, have it your way. I just hate all that effort deleted for sake of not wanting to maintain it and force the reader jump articles to simply follow one route. --WashuOtaku (talk) 22:00, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The thing is it's more effort to maintain it. --NE2 22:05, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Both of you have valid points here, but I side with Washu. I know this is old but still, this should go to other articles with this same thing. It would likely be a good idea to use a Sync mechanism for the concurrencies so when one page with the concurrency has its part changed, it auto-syncs to the non-changed one.--AC325 (talk) 22:11, 18 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Big Shoals State Park v. Big Shoals State Forest

Thanks for catching my mistake! This was another one that seemed to go by a different name than XYZ State Forest. I looked at the source you gave me with the state forest listings here and it lists Big Shoals Public Lands. Can you help me sort out what's what and make sure I don't make another bad mess up? Thanks. Candleabracadabra (talk) 17:27, 23 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It also seems to me there should be an article on Florida State forests more generally? How many there are, who manages them, funding, etc. Candleabracadabra (talk) 17:58, 23 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
See page 7 of the PDF:

Fee simple title interest in these public lands is divided between the Board of Trustees of the Internal Improvement Trust Fund (Board) and the SRWMD. Management of the property is subdivided among three agencies: the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, Division of Forestry (DOF), the Florida Department of Environmental Protection, Division of Recreation and Parks (Division), and the SRWMD. The DOF holds the Board lease on the northern 1,673 acres of the Hamilton County property known as Big Shoals State Forest. The Division holds the Board lease for the southwest (1,012 acres) portion ofthe property within Hamilton County and for a smaller parcel (288 acres) located on the opposite side of the Suwannee River in Columbia County. The SRWMD owns the southeast 983 acres of the Hamilton County portion of the property and leases the northern half of this area to the Division. The lands under lease to the Division comprise Big Shoals State Park. The Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission (FWC) regulate recreational hunting on the roughly 2,140-acre Big Shoals Wildlife Management Area (WMA), which includes the DOF property and a portion of SRWMD land. The Agency Boundaries Map delineates these jurisdictional boundaries.

It appears that the BSPL includes the non-overlapping BSSP and BSSF, with the BSWMA covering most of the BSSF, a small part of the BSSP, and the rest of the BSPL that's in neither. There's also a Big Shoals Conservation Area to the northeast (see map p. 68), which also seems to be owned by the SRWMD. --NE2 19:06, 23 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to take a stab at it when I'm a little fresher. Thanks so much for your help!!! Candleabracadabra (talk) 03:25, 24 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

South Walton

I think I redirected this to Fort Walton Beach, but I see it noted various places. Is it it's own community? I'm kind of surprised there is no article on it. Candleabracadabra (talk) 23:58, 26 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's just the part of Walton County south of the Choctawhatchee/Intracoastal: http://www.visitflorida.com/en-us/cities/south-walton.html http://www.visitsouthwalton.com/ FWB is in Okaloosa County, so it's not in South Walton. Emerald Coast might be the best target for now. --NE2 00:12, 27 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Tennessee State Route 461

Do you Believe everything you see on Google Maps??? I don't. So the message on the route's talk page, is also disputed in my opinion because I think someone but the wrong Route number on the Map. --ACase0000 (talk) 04:30, 28 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

what --NE2 04:33, 28 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You posted that it used to be apart of State Route 49 and that is what is What I was talking about above. Sorry if I confused you. --ACase0000 (talk) 05:51, 28 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I posted something else too. --NE2 06:11, 28 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Two I-494 proposals in Illinois

I'm commenting to you about this only because you created the I-494 redirect back in 2007. There seem to have been two I-494 proposals, the second along Lake Shore Drive about the same time as the first. I'm assuming that these files are legit enough regarding the second: text map (the map is linked from the text but the link on the archive version doesn't work; a later map exists but I can't find its context, only an old link on Kurumi's page). If agreed, could the redirect become a DAB page to the Crosstown and LSD articles, with the above info added to the History section of LSD's? Mapsax (talk) 13:02, 30 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, whatever. --NE2 01:13, 31 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
?? You don't sound too enthusiastic about it.... Mapsax (talk) 14:59, 31 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Module:Road data/strings/USA/IA

Module:Road data/strings/USA/IA was correct. There's only one blue link for any county road in all of Iowa: County Road 105 (Iowa), which redirects to Iowa Highway 105. The expected target of County Road 99 (Iowa), Iowa Highway 99 has not been created yet. In any case, the links don't include the county name because it's a statewide system. There are no other links to "turn blue" at this time. Imzadi 1979 → 07:23, 13 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Read it and weep. --NE2 07:24, 13 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Lincoln-Douglas

Ah, yes, I see. But this confusion is likely to come up again, so I just repointed them to Lincoln-Douglas debates, which has a list of the sites. WilyD 16:52, 13 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

History undeletion for redirects at WP:REFUND

Hey, NE2.

I think I got all of your history undeletions, please let me know if I missed any. Also, it's not in the preloaded form but for histories behind redirects it would be a huge boon to link the dynamic "no redirect" link (see here) in the request so we don't end up wondering where the deleted content is (because we're looking at the history for the target!). LMK if I can get any others for you, if you just want to dump a slew of links on a talk page instead of using that pre-loader. Protonk (talk) 20:11, 13 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I think I got all for now, though in a few months I may come across another batch. --NE2 20:51, 13 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Protonk: Turns out I found another: County Road 615 (Indian River County, Florida) --NE2 21:00, 13 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

IL 92

Regarding [1], where do you see CR TT? According to the 2011 IDOT map, it's CR 59. Plus, I've only ever seen one CR shield in Rock Island County, and it was up near the Whiteside County line on IL 84, which shows it as CR 57 now. –Fredddie™ 21:33, 13 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

[2] - it's also marked at the other end. I also see signs for CRs A to E going south off IL 92 in that area. (CR A is marked only at the south end, with a patch over something else.) --NE2 21:40, 13 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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AWB

I understand your point, and will be more careful. Cheers. Faizan 06:14, 26 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

State Roads

Hi Ne2,

Why did you revert my edit? It redirected those pages to the right article. Robert4565 (talk) 21:47, 26 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You replaced links to the correct topic with links to a different related topic. SR 14 Truck redirects to a section of SR 14 because there's info there. If the other truck routes get appropriate mentions, they too can be redirected. (What you did was not redirecting.) --NE2 21:52, 26 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

NE2,

Thank you for making that correction. I'm sorry about that mistake. Robert4565 (talk) 03:27, 27 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Article redirecting and splits

You may have noticed I have reversed some of your edits. The reason for the reversal of the redirects to US 321 is because its an article for the entire route, and when you redirect it by state, you are putting them in the middle of the article... where the user will then be forced to scroll up to read from the beginning. The article is not written as three articles in one, it is one article for all three states together. So please, don't try to departmentalize the article with redirects when it is not written that way.

As for the requested split for US 117, the hidden note was unneeded. The purpose of the banner is to begin discussion... thus you should start the conversation on it, otherwise I will delete the banner inactivity on your part. Keep in mind, if it is discussed and approved, then someone will have to create that article with meaningful information for it; right now there is just three sentences, so that is a lot to expand on to make this a worthwhile split. --WashuOtaku (talk) 00:22, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This is standard practice for route in state redirects. Reverted.

As for US 117, best would be mentioning it in the history for US 158. Right now it's being put in a totally unrelated article. --NE2 00:24, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Write that in the discussion you just setup, not in the hidden notes for some other editor to find. Show me where it is standard practice to confuse readers to the middle of an article for them to scroll-up on? --WashuOtaku (talk) 00:36, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Almost every bloody redirect from [route] in [state] redirects to the section. --NE2 01:51, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Haven't you been told that "everybody does it" is not a viable answer as to why? I ask again, where is the rule you stating that exists? --WashuOtaku (talk) 02:39, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Might as well ask you where the rule saying don't do it is. The fact that section redirects work at all is a good enough counterexample. --NE2 02:51, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

PS: we've both reverted thrice. So the 3RR applies now (as well as the rule against vandalism, which certainly applies to your removal of my comment if nothing else). --NE2 02:53, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

PPS: [3] --NE2 02:55, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Basically, you could not find anything to prove your point, I get it. --WashuOtaku (talk) 03:03, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Except every other fucking redirect. Bugger off. --NE2 03:04, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The change of redirect on US 11 Truck doesn't bother me, though I question why you redirect US 19 Truck to it as well. Anywho, I don't know why you insist on writting hidden comments on US 117 when you created a discussion thread for the split, which is why I keep deleting it... you need to argue why you want the article to split and let others get in on the discussion. Just creating the split discussion with no discussion is a pointless thing to do and will likely be removed by a bot or someone else (I've been nice so far on that, I want you to start that discussion). Regarding the redirects, again when a user hits the article, they are not departmentalize but it is one complete article; it's like opening a book and starting at chapter 8. Just because you have seen this on some others doesn't make it right. --WashuOtaku (talk) 03:16, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Where else did I make those comments? --NE2 03:20, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
This is a hidden comment when you do this: "!--this has no relation to the current route, and would fit better as a section of the US 158 article-->" Nobody is going to read that unless they are editing the page and I kept replying in my comment reverts this fact. You have to open the discussion in the banner link you added to get the ball rolling; otherwise your split request will go nowhere. --WashuOtaku (talk) 03:30, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You just said that I "created a discussion thread for the split". Anyway, I've done the split/merge, putting the info in U.S. Route 158#History where it makes more sense. --NE2 03:31, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Well, so much for discussing it. --WashuOtaku (talk) 03:37, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
If you wanted to discuss it, you could have. --NE2 03:42, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You didn't start a discussion page. You just put the banner up and left a hidden comment; I saw it only because that article is under my watch (like most highways in the Carolinas). You just now unilaterally moved it now. I wasn't totally against the move, but I wanted to know what others may say about it, just like we did with SR 159. --WashuOtaku (talk) 03:47, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You could have started a discussion on the talk page. Instead you went on about the placement of my comment. --NE2 03:52, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It wasn't my place to start the conversation for you since I had no strong feelings about it; unlike SR 159, where I did take the lead on discussion for you. I was trying to get you to do it with my reverts and revert comments, then things started to spiral out of hand. --WashuOtaku (talk) 04:11, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm not blowing smoke up your arse

Could we at least pretend that since I live in North Carolina that maybe I know something about the roads in the state. I know we don't agree on various things, but I tend to have been to some of these places. Here are some pictures: Soco Gap, Black Mountain Gap (NC 128), Craven Gap (NC 694), Linville Falls Road Flyover of NC 183 (Blue Ridge Parkway spur also used) and Rockfish Gap (w/USBR 76). I've driven on most of the BRP in North Carolina and stopped at Rockfish Gap on a drive to Charlottesville last year. I appreciate you thanking me after I showed you undeniable proof, but I can't make changes and reply to every hidden comment in the comment thread box, and having conversations in hidden text within the article is not good wiki standards. I am not against all your edits, but I wish you could be more collaborative with others and have a little leap of faith. --WashuOtaku (talk) 02:44, 18 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Fine. I was just trying to get it done. Now go and apply your own standards. --NE2 03:07, 18 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Clinchco, VA

Hey- Just a FYI, I found some refs on the name origin of Clinchco. Let me know how to proceed as I see the article has a discuss tag.Coal town guy (talk) 16:44, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you mean the books you linked on the talk page, I don't see anything saying what Clinchco was named for. (And remember, this would have to trump an existing reference that says it's named for the railroad.) --NE2 16:49, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The existing ref is a book, why would that need to be trumped?? If you mean the quality of a ref, no diff hoestly. However I see the point that yes, a ref that explicitly states, oh by the way, Clinchco was named for a coal company even though the coal company name is virtually the same as the town and the Dickenson County Coal Miners Memorial is in front of the Clinchco post office, it could be in some remote and utterly implausible way named after who knows.........thought I would look and see, thanks!Coal town guy (talk) 16:58, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Alligator Creek

Yeah, just checked those two links. My bad! Thanks!

Seems like it is some other "Alligator Creek" whose page is still uncreated. The particular links are ambiguous again! 7Sidz (talk) 08:48, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Interstate 4 major junctions

I've reverted your revert as 1) the major junctions I had did cover all major cities along the route and 2) I can find no policy that major junctions should be evenly spaced and it's not really possible because highways simply aren't built to have evenly spaced junctions with major roads/highways. I've explained the reasoning for the change on the article's talk page. Please discuss any objections you may have to the change at Talk:Interstate 4#Major junctions (infobox). AHeneen (talk) 01:42, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment requested re categories you created

See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains#How did we end up with the "Stations along X Railroad lines" categories?. Mangoe (talk) 15:24, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No comment. I've moved on. --NE2 17:32, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Okay I'll bite

What's a glass sock? SlightSmile 19:10, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's like a glass slipper but it makes you hungry. --NE2 20:34, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Of course. I get it now thanks. I didn't know those were called glass slippers. I guess that's one thing I don't mind being out to lunch about. SlightSmile 20:55, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think they are. --NE2 21:25, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oh it was a pun! Or whatever, I get the drift anyways what you're talking about. Thanks for explaining. SlightSmile 21:35, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Re: File:FloridaCountiesPopulation.png

Maybe a density map would be more useful. I considered that but thought a total population map was slightly better. Counties are not like states. A county with a high overall population will also have a high density, since there is relatively little variation in area (granted Union County and Palm Beach County differ greatly, but hear me out). Perhaps a better way to say this might be both a total population map and a population density map would both illustrate the urbanization and density of a county. There are no high-population counties in Florida that are not high-density and there are no low-population counties that are not low density. Plus, people can just see the relative size of the county and imagine its density. I might make a density map later, though (if someone else doesn't do it first). It would end up looking quite similar to the total population map.--Porsche997SBS (talk) 03:46, 25 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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My bad on the highway redirects, I had just done like 50 and I was in a rhythm. Did you fix them already or should I do that? spiderjerky (talk) 11:46, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed them already. (PS: if you wait a few days a bot should come around and fix double redirects.) --NE2 12:55, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi...just wondering if you could explain this reverted edit. I don't see anything wrong with it, but I was wondering what you thought. Regards — c16sh (speak up) 21:22, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Why would you pipe East Falls Church to Falls Church? The former is an unincorporated part of Arlington County. The other changes are essentially meaningless. --NE2 21:36, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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My apologies.

I do sincerely regret if I have come across as bullying in any way. I have been frustrated lately with the growing number of disambiguation links, and the difficulty they pose for readers - there have been months where I have fixed 10,000 links or more, and the overall number needing to be fixed still continues to rise. I appreciate the fact that you have been very good about fixing the links for which you get notices (you can see how easy it is to inadvertently link to the wrong page), and I wish more editors would follow your example in that. In my determination to enforce guidelines designed to minimize confusion and error, I have failed to effectively convey the volume of discussion and reasoning which has gone into making those guidelines. Again, I apologize, and I hope that we can work together productively in the future. bd2412 T 13:20, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Accepted, I suppose. I'm not big on apologies in either direction.
Question: if your aim is to make disambiguation links easier to fix, why would you want to put the County Road 3 (Florida) links in with those of other states? Most regular Florida editors know enough to not link to County Road 3, but may think the former will be unambiguous enough (as it usually is in Florida). This is very similar to place names: I wouldn't link to Flint Hill, but as you can see above I did link to Flint Hill, Virginia. (Unfortunately the former didn't link to the latter, but IIRC there's a bot that generates lists of Foo disambiguations without links to existing Foo (Bar) or Foo, Bar pages for manual fixing.) --NE2 13:36, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
If a single disambiguation page existed for all roads titled "County Road 3", I would think that it would have subsections for states with multiple roads by that name. The problem here, however, is not with searching but with linking. Virtually all disambiguation pages in Wikipedia (something like 99.996%) are at a title that is either a base page name like Phoenix or a page with a "(disambiguation)" title like George Washington (disambiguation). Editors (and disambiguators) can therefore expect that a page with a different disambiguator in the title, like "(Florida)", is not a disambiguation page but a final target using a disambiguator to distinguish the page from another title like a potential County Road 3 (Indiana). Of course, there are redirects with other disambiguators (like Phoenix (album) and Phoenix (film), which point to the disambiguation page, Phoenix, but it's easier for disambiguators to see and fix everything pointing to a single page, Phoenix than to address multiple disambiguation pages for different kinds of media named "Phoenix". If there are other county roads in other states with the same numbers (which seems inevitable), then eventually there will be a disambiguation page at County Road 3, and editors erroneously linking to that page for a road in Florida might assume that they can "fix" the error merely by adding "(Florida)" to the link. They might do that anyway, but it will be easier for disambiguators to fix errors en masse if all roads lead to one target, rather than there being multiple disambiguation pages for the same title in different places. bd2412 T 14:20, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Where do you get this 99.996% figure? I would have thought there were a lot more City, State place name disambiguations. --NE2 14:24, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You mean pages like Jefferson Township, Pennsylvania? Those are still at what we would consider the base page name, i.e., not using a disambiguator in parentheses. The use of a parenthetical is supposed to have a special significance, to the effect that "Foo" might be ambiguous, but "Foo (bar)" is the specific page you are looking for, the final stop. bd2412 T 14:37, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
That's simply another way of disambiguating. --NE2 14:42, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
True, but it is the most common way - comma disambiguation is pretty much limited to geographic entities, and even some of those also requite a parenthetical to completely disambiguate from other titles (e.g. Saugerties, New York, and Saugerties (village), New York). bd2412 T 14:51, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed. Just as County Road 3 (Florida) requires a county name. --NE2 14:54, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
That would be just as true if the disambiguation page were at County Road 3, since adding "(Florida)" does not get you to a final destination - although some readers might expect that it would. At this point, it is just an extra word. bd2412 T 15:12, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Which is just as true for place names. Yawn. --NE2 15:30, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, didn't mean to bore you. bd2412 T 16:02, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@BD2412: Wellington Road should put to rest any misconceptions that there's a functional difference between parenthetical and comma disambiguation. --NE2 16:06, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Secondary Roads in NC

NE2, please refrain from listing secondary roads (example: SR 1000) in the junction lists if you decide to do any more North Carolina highway articles. Unless the highway sign specifically lists it (which in rare cases like along US 64 it does), it serves no beneficial directional purpose for most people (the number system is used by state for mostly administration purposes; usually located on various signage {street sign, stop sign, random post} at interchange in very small numbers). Thank you. --WashuOtaku (talk) 19:25, 2 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"historical routes belong in history section" - what the fuck? Oh well, you own the state and apparently Tennessee; do what you want. --NE2 22:06, 2 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Wasn't what I wanted to talk about on your page, but since you brought it up... the value of placing historical routes in the jct list notes column is unnecessary details at a very road geek level. The notes column should include things like: type of junction, also goes to sites, construction status, etc. The historical routes should be written about in the history section of the article, not identified at a interchange that use to be a terminus for a pre-1930 state highway. I don't mind you making updates in the Carolinas or Tennessee articles, but if they are on my watch list, I will follow-up, if necessary. --WashuOtaku (talk) 23:36, 2 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Why would the history of an intersecting road belong in the history of this road? The idea is to link someone reading the junction list to the description of the former importance of the road. --NE2 23:46, 2 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
If it doesn't warrant being even in the history section of the road, then it's clutter. The question "is this relevant to the article" should come first before adding something in hopes that it will intrigue a reader to read about a historic road. To give a different example, I also dealt with an issue where an editor added Ralph T. Troy as a notable person in Boone, North Carolina; I read in more of this person I never heard of to find he was a former mayor from Louisiana and he happened to stay in Boone for several years after he long left office... he didn't do anything note worthy while living in Boone so it wasn't relevant to have him listed in the Boone article. We can't list every person that passed through a town and we can't list every historic road that crossed paths 50+ years ago on a junction list, it's just not relevant. I said my piece, you may sort of agree with me or not. --WashuOtaku (talk) 01:08, 3 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't warrant being in the history of THIS ROAD because it's another road. But go on, keep applying your anal standards. It's your state; you own it. --NE2 01:24, 3 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Always a pleasure chatting with you too. --WashuOtaku (talk) 01:51, 3 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You too. Shame chat isn't all we do here. --NE2 02:03, 3 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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SR 91

Hi. Your Edits may have "improved" the article, but you removed cities. And changed unnecessary things.

Also Thank You for all the other edits to the other Highway articles. ACase0000 (talk) 22:11, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I removed cities that I couldn't find on signs in Google street view. --NE2 22:14, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ford on Route 7 near Dupont

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I am no longer in IN, but this should help. My camera operator and I followed Skidmore to the location in the video. I couldn't find it on my own. I am driving the black van through the ford in the video. --Scottandrewhutchins (talk) 21:10, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's near Vernon, not Dupont, actually.----Scottandrewhutchins (talk) 21:13, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Scottandrewhutchins: I think this is it. Nothing to do with SR 7, but it may have carried SR 3 before 1933. --NE2 22:18, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Nevada State Route 794

I do not understand your merge suggestion, and voted against it. As BL 80 in Winnemucca is signed along three separate routes (US 95, SR 289, SR 794), all of which currently have articles, and BL 80 is essentially a redirect (in fact it was, but I decided, based on your suggestion, to make it more of a disambiguation page), I don't see any reason to merge them (plus all Nevada SR's currently have their own article regardless of co-signed BL's). Famartin (talk) 08:40, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

SR 289 and SR 794 should both redirect to BL 80 (or at least the latter; the former has a separate portion). They are the same road and it's incredibly silly to duplicate the information. --NE2 08:44, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Probably should argue this on the talk page; however, they are in fact separate roads (if you look at a map, you will notice this). SR 289 follows Winnemucca Boulevard, then East Second Street, with only the first 0.5 mile co-signed as BL 80. BL 80 turns right onto SR 794 from Winnemucca Blvd. BL 80 is also co-signed with US 95 for 1.6 miles, west of the end of SR 289. Also, all Nevada BL's which are cosigned with SR's redirect to the SR, not the other way around. You should check Nevada state highway precedent on Wikipedia before making such a suggestion. Famartin (talk) 08:47, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Precedent is no excuse for stupidity. --NE2 08:50, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Again, we probably should move this (all) to the SR 794 talk page, but why is it stupid? NDOT considers the SR's to be the "real" roads; BL's are signed for convenience/tourism aspects and cannot be found in NDOT's inventory anywhere. Famartin (talk) 08:54, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Same reason Nevada State Route 593 redirects: it's part of a longer route that doesn't need duplication. PS: I don't really care; just get off my lawn. --NE2 09:04, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
That redirects to a single continuous road of which the SR is a part. Anyone looking at a map can see that SR 794 is a separate roadway from the rest of the BL. And, if you are going dispense with further discussion by saying "get off my lawn", then I'll respond in kind and remove your merge suggestion. Famartin (talk) 09:48, 18 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Can you cast your mind that far back?

I see you were the original perpetrator of Template:Cite CAstat back in 2007. I'm in the process of merging this with Template:CalStats as per some merge discussion. There are a few things I can't work out from looking, maybe you can remember.

  • There is a parameter passed of |ex=. Apart from being a reference to an extraordinary session of the legislature, does it also form part of the key for Cite CAstat/title? (like year ex ch)
  • There is a parameter passed of |res=. This is supposed to be a resolution number, but what is confusing me is that the title record (where it exists) has within its text an entirely different resolution number.
  • Ditto for |hr=

My guess is that these were ideas which seemed good at the time but that never got fully developed. --Unbuttered parsnip (talk) mytime= Tue 22:36, wikitime= 14:36, 25 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oh god, I don't remember. You do know you can do this, right? --NE2 15:07, 25 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Interstate 4

I changed the piping of Dinosaur World (Florida) to Dinosaur World (theme parks) to avoid a redirect. You undid that revision and stated “not the way to handle that”. What did I do wrong? Thanks. Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 17:09, 3 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@FieldMarine: You avoided a redirect. Please see WP:R2D. --NE2 17:57, 3 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

U.S. Route 17 @ Clay County Road 214

You're right about the short overlap of U.S. Route 17 in Florida and Clay CR 214 between Decoy Road and Sungarden Road. It's not signed as an overlap. I discovered it when I was driving from New York City and spotted a US 17 sign with an erroneous cardinal direction just south of Decoy Road. It said "EAST" US 17 when it should've said "South." Thanks for the mileage, BTW. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 18:17, 3 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Tennessee State Routes

Hi, NE2!!! Did you move the former Tennessee State Route 42 into the list with the current routes? Just wondering who did it because it doesn't Belong in the current routes list. ACase0000 (talk) 14:31, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No, I didn't (check the history), but it has a gray background, meaning it's former. --NE2 14:32, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I did check history but I couldn't find out who did it. But put all differences and arguments aside it still shouldn't be in current routes when there is a former section. I came to you for help because you are experienced in roads. ACase0000 (talk) 15:13, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

List of Municipalities of Florida

Apopka was out of order. I was trying to fix the rank. For some reason, the Rank column won't sort properly. But if you sort the population column you'll see that the Rank numbers are now correct. Do you know how to fix the Rank sorting and fix Apopka's order at the same time?Inkan1969 (talk) 22:18, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You change the numbers. I have no idea why you added a bunch of random formatting and removed a bunch of templates. --NE2 22:20, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't add that formatting on purpose. I used the beta version of editing. Using that, the only way I could change the number is by changing the box from "header box" to "content box", changing the number, and then turning it back to "header box".
I'm afraid I'm really busy for the next two days. Would you be able to change the numbers right now?Inkan1969 (talk) 22:26, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I'm not a fan of that column in the first place (seems redundant to population). --NE2 22:29, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

CTfastrak Wiki Article

Hey, NE2! Name's Mike, but you can call me Mike. Don't mind the username, I know it's stupid, and I want to change it.

I'm trying to fix the articles that exist for CTfastrak and its stations, and saw that you're a common contributor to transportation articles and are a member of WikiProject Buses. I'd love your help if you've got the time. School's just about done for me for the semester, and I start back up on 22 January 2015. Any time you've got between now and then would be greatly appreciated to write this thing.

Thanks so much for reading and considering this, and I hope to hear from you soon.

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Manasota, Florida

I asume that Manasota, Florida is in Charlotte County, not Sarasota County? In the article you wrote Sarasota, but then you used the navbox and category for Charlotte. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 13:06, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, thanks. In the future, you can check: click the coordinates link, then choose ACME Mapper topo. --NE2 14:37, 1 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your revert

Can you please explain this revert? Every link for SR A1A redirects to one page for all of A1A, and the same is true for the routes that I changed in the edit. — c16sh (speak up) 23:15, 10 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The 30As are different routes that could redirect to different places in the future. --NE2 23:47, 10 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Point taken, but why revert all of the changes when all but one are correct? — c16sh (speak up) 15:12, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The other changes were merely cosmetic, neither correct nor incorrect. --NE2 17:17, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Valley of Fire Road

Really? A road in a park that charges an entry fee is a toll road? Vegaswikian (talk) 18:11, 15 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

FHWA lists it: http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/policyinformation/tollpage/t1part4.cfm --NE2 23:11, 15 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Arch Bridge (Bellows Falls)

This 1906 bridge wasn't a toll bridge. It was always owned by the towns. A bridge in a different location near-by was a toll bridge. - Denimadept (talk) 11:42, 17 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, the article is rather unclear about the locations being different, but an 1869 map confirms. --NE2 11:46, 17 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, sorry. I never saw anything about where the previous bridge was, but it apparently existed for a time at least during the time the new bridge was built. I saw nothing about when the old bridge was removed. It's an open question whether such a replacement is a replacement or a new structure of new lineage. For instance, the current "Arch Bridge", which is nothing of the kind, is, I think, a few hundred feet downstream of the real Arch Bridge. - Denimadept (talk) 23:03, 17 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Or I could just move them. --NE2 20:23, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You sure can, but please at least remove the AfC templates from them? I'm just trying to make this easier for you, it's not a rule. The script lets you click accept and it does everything else (moves, cleans up, adds reflists, etc). EoRdE6(Come Talk to Me!) 20:26, 10 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Future EB ROW for US 90 in Duval County, FL

You honestly don't see that big perfectly cut vacant lot along side of US 90 that's only fenced up until after the southeast corner of Chaffee Road? Because to me that's clearly the right-of-way for future eastbound lanes. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 17:53, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You mean the fenced-in private property belonging to a trailer company? --NE2 18:07, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Not just that, but the property in front of it that's not fenced in. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 22:30, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
That's part of the highway ROW. How is it clearly the ROW for future eastbound lanes? Alternate hypothesis: they could put a sidewalk there. Or just keep the drainage ditch that's currently there. --NE2 04:29, 19 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but you have to admit that's pretty wide for a mere sidewalk or drainage ditch. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 00:16, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
No, I don't have to. This is clearly your original research and likely wrong to boot. --NE2 03:19, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
"Original research?" Are you kidding me? This clearing has to be at least two car widths. At this point, I'd like to see something from FDOT #2 or some Jacksonville-area news service about this. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 20:25, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
All that tells you is that it's wide enough to add another lane if they put the drainage ditch into a pipe. It says nothing about FDOT's actual plans. --NE2 05:19, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Lake Poinsett (Florida)

I'm trying to understand what you need to have happen on the Lake Poinsett article and particularly the history merge. Have you already merged the articles? Does the entire history need to be merged? Just to protect it, I have removed the speedy template. The redirect should be working. Let me know. Thanks JodyB talk 16:25, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not exactly sure what's going on with the history. But to keep the old history of Lake Poinsett (Florida) the history needs to be merged before moving, right? --NE2 17:20, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'm assuming you ultimately want to end up with the article at (Florida) right? I'm going to punt this over to the people at the Wikiproject that handles merges. I think they would be best suited for it. It may just be me but history merges seem awful convoluted and I don't want to mess it up. I'll stay in touch. JodyB talk 17:24, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, that seems like the best title for it. The county is unnecessary. --NE2 17:32, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Kudos to TexasAndroid for the fix. JodyB talk 19:04, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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This message is regarding Interstate 164. The top of the article says it's now part of I-69, which is why I put a merge template on the article. But you're saying that part of the highway still is Interstate 164. No source I know, not even Google Earth, agrees. Please fix the top of the article if possible. Georgia guy (talk) 20:55, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In the route description: "A short .69 miles (1.11 km) section of I-164 west of US 41 is still designated as I-164, but is not signed." It's actually more complicated, in that the planned route for I-69 south across the Ohio River into Kentucky leaves I-164 around exit 3, meaning that not only this 0.69 mi piece but another 3 miles or so will either return to being I-164 or (more likely IMO) be something like I-169. That would be the proper target for a merge when the Ohio River bridge is built. Merging it now would just make it more complicated in the future. --NE2 21:48, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The article says "Interstate 164 was". Can you re-word it as much as possible?? Georgia guy (talk) 21:57, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
That's true. It was a spur of I-64. Now it's a tiny stub off the end of I-69. --NE2 22:26, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
And thus you should add to the beginning what it is. Georgia guy (talk) 22:56, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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I-4 Volusia County Rest Area

You've got to be kidding me? You can't see that the link I posted shows adequate evidence that it was an old rest area with barely any facilities? ---------User:DanTD (talk) 02:22, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It could have been any number of things. But no matter - I found and will add a better source. --NE2 03:56, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Ahh, the old FDOT road map archives shown on the AARoads Forum last night. What would be even better is if we could get an exact date it was closed. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 01:23, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Named state highways in Oregon

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Reverting your talk subject line

I reverted your undo revision of my changing the header from your original one of "‎I don't give a shit, but you might" to "Discussion about named highways in Oregon." Your title was unhelpful and unnecessarily vulgar, whereas mine was more descriptive of the content under the header. You are welcome to change the title to something that better describes the content under the header, but you are not welcome to revert the title to your crass creation just because you don't like it.  VC  18:48, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't give a shit if you like it. --NE2 19:27, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Jeez, get the bug out of your butt, everyone isn't your enemy. Please be more civil and knock the chip off your shoulder. - Floydian τ ¢ 21:01, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I know you are, but what am I? --NE2 21:02, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You do know that you've broken WP:3RR and if I or another user feel up to it, its only a few clicks to stop this in a way that won't be ideal. Please self-revert yourself. - Floydian τ ¢ 21:22, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I reverted thrice against your tag team. --NE2 21:28, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I simply saw reversions to Talk:USRD and checked it out. There's no tag team, just reverting tenacious editing. Reverting "thrice" would be what is implied by three revert rule. - Floydian τ ¢ 21:31, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
"An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page" - durr? --NE2 21:38, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
"...any user may report edit warring with or without 3RR being breached. The rule is not an entitlement to revert a page a specific number of times." I'm sure another user will revert the page within an hour or two anyways, and I could very well myself. - Floydian τ ¢ 21:58, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You edit warred to remove my subject line. Now fuck off my talk page. I'm tired of getting emails. --NE2 22:08, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Lafayette

Just wanted to note that I'm about to be moving Lafayette, Allen County, Ohio back to Lafayette, Ohio. Municipalities are generally considered to be primary when there's one municipality and one-or-more unincorporated community/ies with the same name in a state. I can imagine exceptions being made for reasons such as community size (e.g. if the CDP Finneytown, Ohio were named "Miltonsburg", it would probably be primary, even though Miltonsburg, Ohio is incorporated, because they have 12,000 and 43 residents respectively), but Lafayette's the typical situation in which the municipality takes precedence. Nyttend (talk) 21:29, 13 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What allows you to override the disambiguation page and move it? These two places are of roughly equal importance. --NE2 21:32, 13 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Louisiana Highway 1

Hi NE2, I reverted many of the changes you recently made to the junction list of LA 1. Here are some reasons:
1) You removed local names for several highways that I was able to confirm with official property maps, mostly in Lafourche Parish. The presence of street signs varies widely between parishes and cities in Louisiana. Just because GSV imagery doesn't show a sign doesn't mean the road has no name.
2) You added many locally maintained bridges that I feel do not belong in the RJL. Louisiana has a lot more bridges than most states and listing every single bridge along a 400+ mile route will lead to excessive clutter.
3) You added names for many bridges, most of which I have retained since official sources concur. Because of the nature of the southern portion of LA 1 intersecting so many bridges, I feel many of the lesser used names clutter the RJL, but I won't remove them until I look at what articles assessed as GA's in the USRD project tend to do in this case. However, if a bridge on LA 3185 only has a name like LA 3185 Bridge merely for internal identification purposes, I think it's unnecessary and redundant to include the name.
4) You removed altogether a junction that is closed temporarily for construction, which I have reinstated with a note explaining this. You removed another junction that appears on the official highway map that is not signed. DOTD doesn't sign some highways for one reason or another. Sometimes signs are missing and are not replaced for years. Some short connectors are signed not with its actual route number but as "TO LA xxx" (to whatever route it connects to). Again, just became GSV doesn't show it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
5) You added a ferry service that no longer exists as a destination, which I have removed.

I think that covers most of them. You made a large number of changes without providing any reason in the edit summary. Then you reverted my changes again without explanation while I provided one in my edit summary. Your edits must have taken some time to do, so surely you can take an extra 10 seconds and write something in the edit summary as a courtesy to other editors - a reason for the changes, what source this is coming from, etc. Please don't start an edit war. That being said, a few of your changes were helpful, including some control cities from signage that I missed, which I appreciate. Thanks. Britinvasion64 (talk) 18:14, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Whatever. Take care of your article if you want. --NE2 19:08, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Mileage-based posts in MA

Greetings! Thank you for the work you did on Interstate 190 (Massachusetts) and Massachusetts Turnpike. The reason for my reverts were because the mileage posts have not been posted yet (or officially completed), so we don't want to mark the current exit numbers as old yet, to avoid confusion. There should certainly be information about the new numbering initiative (it is important!), but I wouldn't replace the former information until the project is completed, since there's no rush as Wikipedia is not a news source! Thanks, Garchy (talk) 17:22, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sigh. If there were a way to change the column titles, I'd do it. But everything is rigidly set. Insert passive aggressive comment here. --NE2 17:25, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
:( I've had the same conflicting feeling as well, especially since projects like this tend to drag on for months (if not a year or more), making it tough to peg when the 'rigid' transition should happen! Wouldn't be a bad idea to bring this up on the talk page of the template, actually! Garchy (talk) 14:49, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Florida State Road 80

I couldn't help but notice you removed Interstate 75 as a major junction from the inbox of Florida State Road 80. Personally, I would think that a major interstate highway would be considered a major junction on any article. I don't see how SR 29 would be listed and I-75 would not. Sanibel sun (talk) 06:35, 17 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The point is to give a general idea of where the highway goes. All junctions are listed in the major intersections table. --NE2 18:42, 17 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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US railroad network maps

All Class 1 Railroads
My try

Hi NE2,

I'm trying to recreate the Class 1 Railroad map with QGIS and the National Transportation Atlas database. May you please tell me, which software and which additional shapefiles you used for your maps? I can't get the Cartographic Boundary Shapefile working. Greetings, --Kopiersperre (talk) 19:42, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Can't say I remember. Sorry. --NE2 03:05, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Norfolk Southern rail line problems: Washington to Atlanta Main Line, B-Line, SB Line, W Line

What are the actual names of the Washington to Atlanta Main Line, B-Line, SB Line and W Line?

The Washington to Atlanta Main Line is not just one rail line, it is made up of multiple rail lines extending from Washington D.C. to Atlanta. I'm sure the line was just one rail line at one time, but it is now made up of multiple rail lines. If the Washington to Atlanta Main Line was just one rail line, the name would show on employee timetables and track charts, but it doesn't.

Same with the B-Line, SB Line and W Line, I did not see those names on employee timetables and track charts either, but I will reread the timetables and track charts again just to be sure.Granthew (talk) 07:09, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if they have other names. NS doesn't use subdivisions the way most companies do. --NE2 14:49, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Well subdivisions is actually another term used for rail line. A railroad can either use "Line" or "Subdivision" or "District" to define a rail line. NS uses "District" and "Line" while UP, BNSF, CSX and CP use "Subdivision". The Sunbury Line in PA was called Sunbury Subdivision until NS purchased it and renamed it to Sunbury Line.Granthew (talk) 16:05, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is that NS is inconsistent across divisions. In the 2008 Piedmont Division ETT, the B-Line is simply called "Washington District Manassas to Edinburg", a branch of the "Washington District Alexandria to Montview". In the absence of an official name, we use "B-Line", which is what the general public calls it (when they need a better name than 'that rail line over there'). --NE2 16:30, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I did some more searching and the B-Line is a separate line from the Washington District. The B-Line does have its own timetable, but NS labels it as part of the Washington District which is false.Granthew (talk) 04:50, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Why do you say this is false? --NE2 05:44, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Well the Washington District and the B-Line are both viewed as rail lines, but a name of a rail line is usually not applied to multiple rail lines. If the Washington District was viewed as a rail corridor which involves two or more rail lines, then the rail line name would also be applied to the B-Line. However the Washington District is viewed as a rail line and not a rail corridor so the B-Line should be viewed as not part of the Washington District. Some branch lines, some secondary lines, wyes, connecting tracks and industrial tracks don't have their own timetables and are grouped with other timetables of other rail lines.
A rail line can also have more than one timetable, so if a rail line has more than one timetable, than those timetables would be viewed as railroad segments. Most railroad segments were once rail lines, but has since become part of other rail lines. The Nicholson Cutoff which is still in existence was once a rail line, but it is now a railroad segment of the Sunbury Line rail line. Same with the Reading Company main line, the Reading Company main line which is still in existence is now a railroad segment of the Harrisburg Line rail line. Lebanon Valley Branch is still around, but it is a railroad segment as well, it is a railroad segment of the Harrisburg Line too.
With the term rail corridor, a rail corridor could have been one rail line at one time, but was separated into two or more rail lines with all of its trackage still in existence. The PRR Main Line was one rail line at one time but it is now a rail corridor called the Keystone Corridor because it was separated into two rail lines- Philadelphia to Harrisburg Main Line and Pittsburgh Line respectively, all trackage remains. NS owns Pittsburgh Line and Amtrak owns Philadelphia to Harrisburg Main Line.
I have established three levels of railroad trackage property- Rail Corridor, Rail Line, Railroad Segment. A Rail Corridor is made up of two or more rail lines, a Rail Line refers to one piece of trackage between point a and b that is viewed as one entity, and a Railroad Segment is a piece of a rail line. Some connecting tracks, industrial tracks and wyes are considered as rail lines while other connecting tracks, industrial tracks and wyes are not considered as rail lines and are considered extra trackage instead.Granthew (talk) 06:55, 6 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You're assuming that "Washington District" is the name of a line. It appears to instead be the name of a group of lines. --NE2 07:17, 6 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I am basing the layout of the Washington District on what Railfan Virginia says:
Here's your problem: you're using the organization of a fansite as a reliable source. --NE2 15:17, 6 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
And I suppose RailroadRadio.net is not a reliable source either?- http://www.railroadradio.net/content/view/175/208/ Granthew (talk) 05:47, 8 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Please read Wikipedia:reliable sources. --NE2 18:38, 8 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It's a reliable source. Plus you created the B-Line article and you said it connects to the Washington DistrictGranthew (talk) 01:43, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yawn. --NE2 03:02, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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New Mexico Renumbering happened in 1987

http://dot.state.nm.us/content/dam/intrans/proginfra/programs/Memoria2lFinal2009.pdf shows that the renumbering in New Mexico happened in 1987. I moved the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]])

From April 1988: "Under a project that cost approximately $300,000, the Highway Department is renumbering many state roads, tearing down old designations and putting up new signs, with new numbers, in their place."
I also have a scan of a Rand McNally atlas that says "New Mexico State Highway changes during early 1988".
Maybe plans were made in 1987, but the actual renumbering happened in 1988. --NE2 17:38, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

TXDOT

I contacted them about the missing post-1939 routes. I will be watching the site. I also found something saying, location for a NEW FM on the FM 1109 cancellation minute order. This was obviously intended to be FM 3539, but it was never created because it was created as an extension of FM 3380 (Created in 1993) instead (the old one from US 281 to Mexico became part of FM 509 in 1992).--Alexlatham96

More TX control section info

See [[4]]Alexlatham96 (talk) 04:46, 17 September 2017 (UTC) SH 242: [[5]] (Hempstead to SH 38 in Sugarland; it says it ends at a connection with SH 38 in Sugarland) SH 260: [[6]] (Commerce to Talco to Naples) SH 237 was SH 128 for a month in 1935. This was probably to avoid confusion.[reply]

Discussion at Talk:Utah Central Railway#Utah Central Railroad/Railway

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RR line names

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1940s county Maps of New Mexico (1950 Census)

Can you investigate these maps, please? Alexlatham96 (talk) 04:09, 21 January 2018 (UTC)Alexlatham96[reply]

Thanks for the tip; I didn't realize the 1950 census maps were up. I will take a look. --NE2 19:10, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Articles needed

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In order to justify inclusion the following in List of track gauges and Template:Track gauge could you compose articles? User:NE2/nonstandard gauge

Correction needed?

in User:NE2/nonstandard gauge#5 ft 3 in (1,600 mm)
Mount Washington Railroad The article itself gives a track gauge of 4 ft 8 in (1,422 mm) Peter Horn User talk 16:59, 6 February 2019 (UTC) Peter Horn User talk 17:20, 6 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Track gauge of Eaton and Hamilton Railroad Peter Horn User talk 18:12, 6 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Texas SH 194 Tahoka to Plainview was probably SH 280

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Category:Predecessors of the Boston and Maine Corporation has been nominated for renaming

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Category:Pioneer Railcorp has been nominated for renaming

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"Hickey Boulevard" listed at Redirects for discussion

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cahighways.org

Hi. I've recently been involved in a debate about cahighways.org over at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#cahighways.org, and I pretty much got bullied out of the discussion by a group of regulars who participate there, but I just now noticed the connection you have to the website, and I was wondering what your thoughts are on the debate? Huggums537 (talk) 20:33, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Nomination for deletion of Template:NYCS J skip old

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Nomination for deletion of Template:NYCS Z skip old

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Discuss disputed image:Battle of kedah.jpg

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The file File:Battle of kedah.jpg has been proposed for deletion because of several problems found about it.

I asked you to discuss it because I see that you have a concern about the factuality of the information presented on the page Chola Navy. Surijeal (talk) 05:41, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Camden Township, New Jersey" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Category:Companies operating former Boston and Maine Corporation lines has been nominated for renaming

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St. Johns, Florida

I usually can't remember what I had for lunch yesterday, but I want to go way back to this edit in 2014. I'm asking because I added an infobox today (per a talk page request), and the GNIS name for the place is "Saint Johns, Florida". When I tried to change the name, I noticed your redirect. Thanks! Magnolia677 (talk) 17:30, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Just because GNIS unabbreviates Saint doesn't mean we should. I don't know if there's a specific policy, but what do local media use? NE2 17:32, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I looked through the county website but couldn't even find this place. GNIS listed the abbreviated version as a variant anyway, so not a problem. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 17:55, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The cited reference about the name abbreviates it. And of course we abbreviate the county name. --NE2 20:23, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Companies operating former North American railroad lines

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