User talk:Curbon7

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Asiya_Azeem

I can not figure out whats wrong with the article - could u please help me fix it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Asiya_Azeem Banam123 (talk) 04:03, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Afghan Wahhabists

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We good?

Hey Curbon, since I haven't heard back from you I'll leave a message here. I just want to make sure I haven't done anything and that we'll be able to work together in the future. If you want to discuss anything off-wiki related, just reply to my email. I hope we're still WikiFriends. Tartan357 (talk) 20:07, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Tartan357, Yes sorry I drafted half the reply the other day and stopped because I got busy and then forgot to finish ... the content of the email was that I'm bad at responding to emails lol! Yeah we're good Curbon7 (talk) 20:27, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Phew! Glad to hear it, and no worries. Tartan357 (talk) 20:37, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Sunwoo Jin

Hello! I saw that you commented on my draft a couple months ago on Agust 17th, 2022! I saw that you wrote "Could be notable", could I get clarification or elaboration on what this means? Do you believe that this article has the potential of becoming published and official? LoremIpsum442123 (talk) 00:42, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

LoremIpsum442123: eyeballing it, he is more likely than not to be notable. However, this must be definitively proven by the usage of reliable sources that provide significant coverage of the subject. Many entire paragraphs are completely unsourced at the moment. Curbon7 (talk) 18:56, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Can you assist for a article?

I made a article on my sandbox, which is published previously and gone in speedy deletation. I'm bit confused about which point it makes the status to delete. Now i worked again on that and want to publish that article again but can I get any assistance before publish? Can you check my draft? If it is yes then how you will check? I mean what I will do to show you my draft without publishing? Please help Suborna01 (talk) 07:04, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Hmmmmmm

Hello, Curbon7,

I can usually see the value in the draft articles that you "save" from CSD G13 deletion but do you really think Draft:Samson Mwita Marwa is promising enough to be a main space article? If you can salvage some of this content and make it encyclopedia and well-cited, well, you are a better editor than I am! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:12, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Liz, Oh yeah that one is really awful, but there is still value in having the raw original content for the valuable little gold nuggets in the pile of dung. It is helpful to keep some details in memory; obviously most details in the draft, such as him being "the only uncircumcised boy in his class", are completely useless trivia for our purposes, but I find it immensely valuable that the original author wrote specific offices and specific dates he held those offices. Thus, instead of starting from scratch, this gives a baseline of content to start with; as the author had to have gotten this information from somewhere, it makes it easier to search for the specific sources needed, such as election results or honing in on new biographical data. Sure enough, by selecting specific keywords based on the OG draft, I was able to come across this biographical entry; if I can determine if this book is reliable, then I think I can stretch this to be start-class; if not for discovering that source, it would likely be a 2 sentence stub.

Additionally, though I create the articles in mainspace under my own name because I write them from scratch, I do like to redirect these original draft versions to my version of the article to show where the inspiration came from. Curbon7 (talk) 04:53, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Well, you are certainly fighting the good fight here. Thanks for being able to see the gold nuggets hidden in the dung! We could use more editors like you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:59, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Liz, I was able to get the article (Samson Mwita Marwa) to start-class. 302 words isn't too bad considering what little I had to work with. Curbon7 (talk) 06:12, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Gopanarayan Das

On 22 September 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Gopanarayan Das, which you created and nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 23:04, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Notability

This link is proof that Siddhant Ghegdamal is an Indian actor

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm13122367/bio#overview Lenosb (talk) 18:39, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Lenosb, Just existing isn't good enough to meet our notability criteria for actors. Please include reliable and independent sources that provide significant coverage of the subject to indicate he passes either our notability criteria for actors or our general notability criteria. Curbon7 (talk) 18:46, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

https://filmfreeway.com/SiddhantGhegadmal Lenosb (talk) 19:14, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Lenosb (talk) 05:19, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Lenosb, "But other stuff exists" is a very poor argument that won't get you far on here. After multiple submissions, I have decided to reject the draft — this removes the ability to resubmit it for review. For the time being, I urge you to read WP:YFA, and ensure that if you have declared your conflict of interest if you have one. Curbon7 (talk) 05:24, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

An additional question, have you edited Wikipedia before using another account? Curbon7 (talk) 05:26, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

See this link for an article that has no references.

1.Savat_Mazi_Ladki

2.Dhoom_Dhadaka

3.Thartharat

4.Kaydyacha_Bola

5.Ideachi_Kalpana

Mr. Please allow the Siddhant Ghegadmal article if the reference is given

Lenosb (talk) 05:30, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Lenosb, Please answer the following question: have you edited Wikipedia before using another account? I need to know this information to see if I can help you. Curbon7 (talk) 05:33, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Yes I have edited many incomplete articles Lenosb (talk) 06:08, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

I meant, have you edited using a completely different account than the one you are currently using? Curbon7 (talk) 06:09, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

yes done many times Lenosb (talk) 06:29, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Sir, you have not answered my question, I have given links to five articles, those articles are not referenced, what can you say about that and my article is being rejected again and again. My article has less context but the reference is true.  This reference is too much for those articles that have no reference Lenosb (talk) 18:11, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

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ITN recognition for Kapil Narayan Tiwari

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Nice work with this; it's refreshing to see an Indian politician's bio that's not a load of crap, from an encyclopedia's perspective. Vanamonde (Talk) 02:31, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

About learning

Hi, can you please help with editing and creation of a wiki page on my knowledge and information. Ram 90 (talk) 12:51, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Draft:2022 Italian general election in Trentino-Alto Adige/Südtirol

Could you check this draft? Braganza (talk) 05:23, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Muckraking

I'm glad to see you're making bold assertions and I'd like to discuss this MfD, if you don't mind. I'm all about bringing history into a modern context and agree that sometimes changes are needed. But IMHO the userbox thing demonstrates more about the nominators than about the nominated. Deleting entire user pages is outrageous practice for reasons having nothing to do with content. I'd be happy to engage with you if you were willing. We may disagree but I think I have something to learn here. Please help me. BusterD (talk) 12:01, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

BusterD, Always glad to see you! My logic here was in relation to SmokeyJoe's rationale on the other MfDs for the userboxen, in which Joe argued that since those userboxen had no pageviews and no uses, MfDing was only drawing unneeded attention to them, and that it would have been preferred to just silently blank them. That is a completely valid argument, but I disagreed there, as I think inflammatory and hateful userboxen should be explicitly deleted, to make it clear that hate is not welcome here. However, with regards to the userpage, seeing as it was a user who had only made 7 edits during their tenure, and their last edit was 6 years ago, and the userbox in question is manually written in, I think it would have just been preferable to just remove it from the userpage and be done with it, instead of blowing it up more.

I concur with your statement that "Deleting entire userpages because we merely disagree with username choice, implied by userbox choice, is disturbingly close to censorship". I think that there is a distinction between deleting a userbox, which is relatively minor but can be used by other users, and deleting an entire singular userpage when there is an easier alternative. The latter can become quickly problematic and, as you said, censorious. This is very nuanced, but I hope that I explained my logic well enough Curbon7 (talk) 18:05, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

I have asked SmokeyJoe's thoughts as well. My concern is largely perceptual, but I take issues when wikipedians attempt to right great wrongs in user space. I've been keenly aware from my first edits that page history would eventually tell my tale so I don't put offensive stuff on my own page if I can avoid doing so. Deciding where the line is to be drawn deserves a broader discussion than one inbox at a time. BusterD (talk) 22:59, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

BusterD, I've only just realized, when I said muckraking, I actually meant ragpicking. Got my compound words a little mixed up there lol. Although I suppose muckraking can also apply technically. Curbon7 (talk) 02:45, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

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Sorry!

Oops. Sorry about that (edit conflict). Usually I get a popup alert indicating an ec. But, for some reason I did not get one this time and I was in a hurry to get elsewhere. Cheers. Ktin (talk) 19:09, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Betty Hall

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Draft:National Institute of Oceanography and Applied Geophysics

Hi, you recently reviwed Draft:National Institute of Oceanography and Applied Geophysics.

Following your comment, I added more sources. Do you have anything else to suggest? All the unreferenced part are related to the research field of the institute

Thank you so much for your work

Marina

Marinadalessa (talk) 13:26, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

NPOL Comment at AfD of Bouchaib Benlabsir

Hi - I noticed your comment about the applicability of NPOL: "served in a national or provincial legislature (latter only if it is a federal country)." I wrote this which might interest you: WP:NSUBPOL. There's more than a few cases of non-federal polities with subnational legislatures that satisfy NPOL. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 20:07, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

Goldsztajn, Yup, I have consulted that page a few times already! And thanks for the correction, there are indeed some exceptions Curbon7 (talk) 20:30, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

Oh...I'm actually really glad to hear that and that it's been of use! Kind regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 20:35, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

Florida 2024

What makes the Florida Senate Race too soon to have its own article but not all the other 2024 Senate races? The incumbent has declared and a serious challenger has legitimately expressed interest! Every other race with a declared incumbent has an article, even races without a declared incumbent have articles. But for some reason you have an issue with Florida having one! If there was an error in how I created the page then fix the error. I copied how the Texas page was done but fixed everything to read Florida, I'm sure there was mistakes in there! I put the same question in the talk page on the Florida 2024 Senate race page but never got a response Dickeyaustin786 (talk) 02:52, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Generally with election articles this far out from the election, there has to be more coverage than just "incumbent declared" and "someone said maybepossibly 2 years ago". There has to be something to make it relevant; a major challenger declared, a big scandal, etc, because otherwise the article just says nothing. Curbon7 (talk) 07:23, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

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Notability tag on Jeremy Kauffman's article.

Hey @Curbon7, I noticed that you have placed the notability tag on Jeremy Kauffman's article again. To my knowledge, all claims are adequately cited, and all information is supported by secondary sources that are independent of the subject. I would appreciate any suggestions you might have to improve this article. Riverbend21 (talk) 06:52, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Riverbend21, In my view, his notability is marginal at best. While his company is notable, that does not necessarily equate to him being notable; in turn, many of the news articles about LBRY are about LBRY not about Kauffman. As far as political antics, that seems to be mostly in relation to a series of tweets relating to the Libertarian Party of New Hampshire, and as such is covered at that article. Profiles, such as Ballotpedia and this, are fine as supplementary sources, but on their own do not demonstrate notability. Curbon7 (talk) 07:17, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

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DYK for Betty Hall

On 25 October 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Betty Hall, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Betty Hall introduced a New Hampshire bill that would have petitioned the United States Congress to impeach George W. Bush? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Betty Hall. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Betty Hall), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Politics userboxes

Hey @Curbon7. Did you accidentally remove your Politics userbox section from your userpage[1][2]? X-Editor (talk) 01:23, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

X-Editor, Not an accident. I came to find the political userboxen to be largely irrelevant and a bit preachy as they became excessive; also, contrary to what some may say, being the subject of a Twitter post was not a positive experience. I am still very aware and careful with my biases, and if someone asks, I'll gladly say where I sit, but I largely don't see the need to put it on a billboard. Curbon7 (talk) 02:54, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

@Curbon7: Good to know. Thanks! I'd also like to add that your articles on political figures look very impressive. What is your process for creating these articles? X-Editor (talk) 03:45, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

X-Editor, To find ideas, I patrol SDZeroBot reports (namely, Draftify Watch, G13 soon, and Recent AfC declines), compile them into a subpages in my sandbox based on topic (such as User:Curbon7/sandbox/Politicians).

When writing, I like to compile all the sources first, then I throw all of the information onto the draft haphazardly (which is very helpful for when sources conflict), then pull all the prose together, and then add sources at the very end. You can see this process with the one I've been working on right now: Draft:Sedrak Saroyan. Sometimes this process can take only a few hours (Samson Mwita Marwa) and sometimes it is a month-long endeavor (Betty Hall).

I like to create articles as complete and holistic as possible, so I try to use every possible source I have available to me, as I dislike creating stubs. Sometimes, the sources I have available to me (Google, GBooks, newspapers.com) don't have a lot to say about a person and so there is no choice but a stub (example), even though I'm sure offline sources about this person exist. Curbon7 (talk) 19:01, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

@Curbon7: Thanks for explaining your process. Keep up the good work! X-Editor (talk) 19:10, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Blanche Lemco van Ginkel

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Draft:Mike Afolarin was rejected

Hello @Curbon7, can i know the reason why Draft:Mike_Afolarin was rejected, so i can make correction on it, thanks Yemsquare (talk) 12:45, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Yemsquare, The entire thing seems like nothing more than an attempt at promotion for the subject. From the external social media links to the photographs, this reeks of promotional editing. Curbon7 (talk) 12:57, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

So can i rectify it and publish it again Yemsquare (talk) 12:59, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Yemsquare, When an article is rejected instead of declined, it cannot be resubmitted for review. The article has to be fundamentally rewritten in order to even come close to being encyclopedic. If you can manage this competently, and I'm telling you outright that I'm extremely doubtful at the prospects and it may be more worth your time to do something else, I will unreject and leave it up for another reviewer to review; but if I smell even an ounce of bs promotion, it's staying rejected. Curbon7 (talk) 13:08, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Okay,

Thanks, if i rewrite another article, can i maintain the title name Yemsquare (talk) 13:15, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

False

In a stub or an article of this size there is "no lede".Extraordinary2 (talk) 20:48, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Extraordinary2: the lede is just the introductory portion of the article, not a typical journalistic lede. I fixed it up, as I concur there were some issues with it. Curbon7 (talk) 20:50, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

You should not remove the statement from the 2022 page. Extraordinary2 (talk) 20:53, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

I just looked it up. Go ahead and source it yourself, De Santis is the youngest. You're doing some things which are wrong.Extraordinary2 (talk) 21:07, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

All statements must be sourced with reliable sources. This is core Wikipedia policy, especially in regards to WP:BLPs. Curbon7 (talk) 21:08, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Don't know where to start. You're wrong. I'll have to source it. Why aren't you sourcing it? Put the statement back on the 2022 page. You have errors all over. Extraordinary2 (talk) 21:15, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Are you listening?Extraordinary2 (talk) 21:23, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Extraordinary2, I don't see what the issue is. The statement on the DS article was re-added with a source, and the change to the 2022 article was mostly grammatical. Curbon7 (talk) 21:35, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

The issue is you are wrong more than once. See the talk pg on 2022. Extraordinary2 (talk) 21:39, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

As said already it was important to the article. One must guess you don't like to source articles yourself. Extraordinary2 (talk) 23:00, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Changed the phrasing. Please leave things how they are unless you want to start a talk page poll, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Extraordinary2 (talk • contribs) 22:58, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

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ITN nomination for 2022 Haitian crisis

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NPP Backlog Drive Award

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ITN recognition for Miklós Lukáts

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November 2022

Hello, I'm Elizium23. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, List of Saint Thomas Christians, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Elizium23 (talk) 22:52, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Elizium23, I was still working on the source, plus I think I know how to reference. Instead of insta-reverting and sending a tinned RedWarn message, you could've just waited a sec or written a personalized message. Curbon7 (talk) 23:00, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Sorry, but 99% of editors don't follow up unreferenced edits with a good source. You've proved the exception here, and thanks for that. Elizium23 (talk) 23:02, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Martine Djibo

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Genuinely grateful

I hope I did not sound tetchy. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 19:23, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

I'm one of the few reviewers who accept borderline cases. I believe they are worth it. I have been known to be the wrong side of the border, and I may well be on this one. I never take it personally when an acceptance is sent for discussion, potentially deletion. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 19:27, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Timtrent, don't worry, you did not! In fact, with my reply I was making sure that you knew I wasn't trying to canvass or call you out. Curbon7 (talk) 19:28, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

I knew that 👍. I've developed the reply now as a standard reply when pinged or otherwise asked to visit AfD on an acceptance of mine. I have a view that a reviewer should never be embarrassed when an acceptance is sent for deletion. A long time ago I decided neutrality was best, lest in defending my work I over-defend an article that ay genuinely require deletion 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 19:36, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Karl Svoboda (politician)

On 6 November 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Karl Svoboda (politician), which you created and nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 19:00, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

Ron Klimko - Rfd

I started a RFD discussion consistent with next steps outlined in the prod process. In my opinion, to improve the article to an acceptable standard would involve finding sources (tried) or deleting unsupported statements (blanking - not acceptable). I cannot find any sources of merit let alone quality sources. I perceive the article has been written as a memorial; for a subject that is not notable. Flibbertigibbets (talk) 12:28, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

I think Oaktree b had a great idea. seemed reasonable to me. What do you think? PS thanks for your insights! Flibbertigibbets (talk) 01:08, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Juan Pizarro Navarrete

On 13 November 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Juan Pizarro Navarrete, which you created and nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 15:34, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

New pages

If you create new articles on Wikipedia you understand people will edit them. You can't expect them to stay the same.Extraordinary2 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 00:11, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Extraordinary2, Do you want to be indefinitely blocked so badly? Do you really think you did nothing wrong? I have no issue with other editors editing content I create, as I do not own anything I write; on the contrary, you were blocked because you harassed me by following me to several articles I created and intentionally inserted errors in order to vex me because of a "dispute" we were engaged in on another article. Curbon7 (talk) 04:07, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

DeSantis

Hey Nick, My post for DeSantis was on the discussion page and therefore did NOT violate any rules. I await your apology... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oknevermind (talk • contribs) 04:10, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Oknevermind, It is a WP:BLP violation of the utmost level to assert that someone committed torture and war crimes without very reliable sources. I found this 2018 Miami Herald article which states that as a JAG officer, DeSantis aided in the legal defense of the detained. Now, I assume you are asserting basing on this podcast segment, where a supposed former detainee alleges that DeSantis was involved in torture at GITMO. Wikipedia operates based on reliable sources; that has to be one of the most unreliable sources I've ever seen, besides the fact that it is a primary source. If there was even a modicum of a scoop here, a mainstream outlet would've picked it up a long time ago. Curbon7 (talk) 04:25, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

It was covered by Rebel HQ, Secular Talk, AND The Empire Files. Still awaiting your apology... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oknevermind (talk • contribs) 04:31, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Oknevermind, I already explained that it must be covered by reliable sources. The Young Turks, Secular Talk, and The Empire Files are not or do not appear to be reliable sources. Reliable sources are fact-checked, and have editorial oversight, which none of those 3 appear to have. Curbon7 (talk) 04:37, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Good lord, I hope you don't think Fox News is a reliable source. The guy accusing DeSantis was LITERALLY a firsthand witness. You can't get a more reliable source than that. Still awaiting your apology. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oknevermind (talk • contribs) 06:16, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Oknevermind, just for the record, I don't like DeSantis and I voted for Crist. Back to the topic, The guy being a "firsthand witness" shows that this is a primary source. A NYT investigation, a CNN report, etc, are secondary sources; we need those. Primary sources are impossible to verify and are subject to no editorial oversight or fact checking. Basically, we are just taking this guy at his word. Our Biographies of living persons policy is very strict about what is and is not allowed on Wikipedia with regards to living people (due to defamation laws, libel, etc), and it essentially boils down to the strength of the sourcing; if the sourcing is very weak at the moment, such as in this case, than the appropriate course of action would be to exclude the content for now. I really hope this helps you understand how crucial our BLP policy is. Curbon7 (talk) 06:27, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

So I appreciate you clarifying Wikipedia's policies, but I DID comment on the discussion page and not the article itself. It was wrong of you to threaten to suspend my editing privileges. And no, I did NOT think you were a partisan DeSantis supporter acting in bad faith. With that olive branch, I wish you a good night, my friend.