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"On normal business days the Lok Sabha assembles from eleven o'clock in the forenoon to one o'clock in the afternoon "
"forenoon"?? is this some english word used only in India? - cogent, 15 oct 2004
- forenoon is an english word meaning period of time between sunrise and noon; i,e morning. It is an older english word not in common use. I changed it to morning.kaal
- The article 2014 Indian general election#Voting pattern and articles on several constituencies refer to assembly segment. And I see that constituencies in different states have different numbers of segments: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/count-vvpat-slips-of-5-booths-in-each-assembly-seat-sc/articleshow/68786810.cms Is an assembly segment a geographic region? of a certain number of voters or area? Numbersinstitute (talk) 03:12, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Numbersinstitute: The assembly segments are the state electoral districts that between them cover the area of the Lok Sabha seat. For instance, the Gwalior Lok Sabha seat is divided into eight constituencies for elections to the Madhya Pradesh Legislative Assembly. The differing number of assembly segments are owing to the fact that the state legislatures have different sizes and different populations per seat, from Uttar Pradesh, where one Lok Sabha seat has the same population as four or five state seats; to Nagaland, where one Lok Sabha seat has the same population as sixty state seats. The Election Commission publishes results by assembly segment for statistical purposes, which is why they're often referred to.
- I hope this is a good explanation. YttriumShrew (talk) 06:04, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
- The article 2014 Indian general election#Voting pattern and articles on several constituencies refer to assembly segment. And I see that constituencies in different states have different numbers of segments: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/count-vvpat-slips-of-5-booths-in-each-assembly-seat-sc/articleshow/68786810.cms Is an assembly segment a geographic region? of a certain number of voters or area? Numbersinstitute (talk) 03:12, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
Union Territory
What are union territories? Some sort of federally governmed states? A bit like DC in the USA, or what Brussels will become in the next decades? :-) Wouter Lievens 09:56, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
- I know it's pretty late, but better late than never. Yes, union territories are federally administered to a large extent although UTs of Delhi and Puducherry do have their own legislative assemblies and Chief Ministers. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 07:27, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Eligibility to contest elections to the Lok Sabha
Only Citizens of India who are criminally convicted are debarred from standing for Lok Sabha Elections. Those who just have criminal proceedings in courts i.e. not yet convicted, IMHO, are not barred, but instead are required by law to mention all such procedures in their affidavit to be filed to the returning officer of the Election Commission. This information is merely collected to be made public to the electorate along with other information such as the educational background, wealth, tax status, etc.
Therefore changes should be made, but I would rather like to confirm this. Drjagan
I have removed the secretary-general from the list of important members of the house.Secretary general, though the highest ranking officer(equivalent to the rank of Cabinet Secretary of Central govt) of the lok sabha secretariat, is not an elected member of the house.Bharatveer 07:24, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
Lok Sabha Seats and Reservation
- In many Indian States seats for Lok Sabha are also reserved for Scheduled Castes and Tribes.
- In all, infact.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91(esperanza elections!) 05:02, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Under "important members of the fourteenth Lok Sabha" is listed the name of the Secretary General also. Is the Secretary General a "member" of the house? Wikwiki 00:37, 30 May 2007 (UTC),,,,,,,,
below poverty line
i think in india BPL list made very wrong & faulty thats why needy people could not get help so i would like suggestion to prepare a list who are self employed & unorganised worker —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.95.23.103 (talk) 03:50, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
reservations
What percentage of seats are reserved and for whom? This info should be included. 24.125.38.175 (talk) 02:46, 25 April 2010 (UTC) R.E.D.
Term length
What is the term length of members elected to the Lok Sabha? Also, when do newly elected members come to office? Blue Rasberry 16:27, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
The term is normally five years after which elections to the parliament are held, however if the government becomes a minority government due to some reason and the prime minister cannot get confidence vote(or loses a no confidence vote called by opposition) the house will be dissolved and fresh elections ordered. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tamicus (talk • contribs) 04:01, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
Requested move
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: both articles were moved back a week ago, and there is consensus for this decision. Favonian (talk) 18:55, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
– Wikipedia articles have the titles as Wikipedia:COMMONNAMEs, not official names. Also, even in official usage, the terms "Lok Sabha" official site and "Rajya Sabha" Official site are popular Government of India site. Also, compare news entries: 5 for "House of the People" v/s 2360 for Lok Sabha; 6 for "Council of States" v/s 1150 for "Rajya Sabha" Redtigerxyz Talk 05:38, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
- Support – As per rationale of nominator, no need to redundantly mention all guidelines for support. — Bill william comptonTalk 05:51, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
- Comment I didn't see this move request when I moved the pages back, but if we do need a move request done, it should be a move request from Lok Sabha and Rajya Sabha as they are the longstanding names and no reason that they should not continue to be without any discussion. —SpacemanSpiff 06:31, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
- Since I've moved this back prior to looking at the discussion I'm not going to close this discussion, but it could be closed as withdrawn as moot by the nominator. —SpacemanSpiff 06:58, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
- Note — I have corrected "Lok sabha" to "Lok Sabha" in the material at the head of this section. Andrew Gwilliam (talk) 10:11, 18 September 2011 (UTC).
- Comment — My impression is that "Rajya Sabha" and "Lok Sabha" are the usual form, although I suppose this may be subject to regional variation within India itself.
- The official websites for the respective chambers routinely use the forms "Rajya Sabha" and "Lok Sabha".
- Using Google, I get 2,240 "News" results for "Lok Sabha" (with the quotation marks) compared with just 11 for "House of the People"; results for "Rajya Sabha" vs. "Council of States" are 1,890 vs. 26.
- Using Google for general pages ("Web") I get 2.6 million for "Rajya Sabha" but just 818,000 for "Council of States". Note also that the results for "Council of States" are inflated, as they include references to bodies with the same name existing in other countries. It's only with a "Web" search for "Lok Sabha" vs. "House of the People" that the "constitutional" name gets more results (5.7 million vs. 90 million).
- Andrew Gwilliam (talk) 10:11, 18 September 2011 (UTC).
- Searches only for "House of the People" are also inflated as many of them refer to bodies other than the Indian one like the "House of the People"in Romania or Afghanistan as well as some things like "House of the People of God", "House of the People of the Sun" etc. --Redtigerxyz Talk 13:15, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
- Lok Sabha and Rajya Sabha it should be. -Animeshkulkarni (talk) 13:02, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
- I was the person who made the initial move. I regret that I made the move without proper discussion. Since the rename is against the Wikipedia policy, I withdraw my proposal. I agree that the article names should remain as Lok Sabha and Rajya Sabha.-- R.Sivanesh ✆ © 15:52, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
Model Code of Conduct
There is need to put down short summary of Election Model Code of Conduct under this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.160.125.211 (talk) 07:55, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
please update infomap as 4 seats are vacant
please update the map. 4 seats are vacant — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.192.111.189 (talk) 09:13, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Adding designation and name of Secretary General in infobox
The infobox should also contain the designation and name of the "Secretary General of the Lok Sabha". I suggest this since he is the heading the Lok Sabha Secretariat and is an integral part of the House.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kbdessai (talk • contribs) 12:51, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
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Electorate 1892-?
In the article, it states "and the electorate very small" when talking about the legislatures under the Indian Councils Act 1892. I think it would be a helpful expansion to add a quick reference who would typically be included in that electorate. From the article under the ICA, it seems that this is basically a number of boards/committees - but I'm not quite clear if I'm understanding correctly. I think this would be particularly helpful in understanding the development of the electorate over the history. effeietsanders 19:21, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
National emergency
Hi,
In the article is stated: If the Lok Sabha is dissolved before or after the declaration of a National Emergency, the Rajya Sabha becomes the sole Parliament. It cannot be dissolved. This is a limitation on the Lok Sabha. But there is a possibility that president can exceed the term to not more than 1 year under the proclamation of emergency and the same would be lowered down to six-month if the said proclamation ceases to operate. - Maybe it's just me, but the last part is quite confusing to me. Could someone who is more into the matter rephrase this a bit? Thanks! effeietsanders 23:00, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
Rephrasing 'as of...'
Is there a way to rephrase the 'as of' sentence, so that it doesn't have to be edited every single day (as an anonymous editor seems to do)? Is this really something that should change on a nearly daily basis? effeietsanders 20:08, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
Requesting move, again
It is regrettable that the page was moved back to the Hindi language title with so little discussion.
The Google count is not a valid argument. Obviously the overwhelming number of references to the entity are in articles by and for people in India; but those people are all bilingual, at least to the extent of understanding what "Lok Sabha" means in Hindi. To English speakers outside India, however, that name is incomprehensible. Consider one of these readers being informed that "the bill was rejected by the Lok Sabha", rather than "the bill was rejected by the House of the People" (or, better, "the bill was rejected by the lower legislative House").
In the interest of serving the widest possible English-speaking readership, please consider again renaming the article "House of the People (India)"
--Jorge Stolfi (talk) 07:19, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- Two houses of German parliament are called Bundestag and Bundesrat even in English Wikipedia articles they are named as such. Even though majority of English audience is unfamiliar with that terminology. Same with Lok Sabha and Rajya Sabha. These are the official names of both houses of Indian parliament. All the official business, even in English language is done in the name Lok Sabha and Rajya Sabha. That's why the titles of the articles shouldn't be renamed. Adding to the fact the parliamentary assembly of India is called 16th Lok Sabha, 17th Lok Sabha and such, not the 16th House of the people and 17th House of the people. Furthermore it is not just the Hindi language title but it is called Lok Sabha and Rajya sabha in a majority of Indian languages.
— Hemant DabralTalk 05:36, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
- Why the name should be changed or not be changed can be discussed when you (Jorge Stolfi) or someone starts an official change request. So will comment on that then.
However, for your current problem that "the bill was rejected by the Lok Sabha" being incomprehensible, changing name of the article is not going to help. You will have to edit all the 17k+ article on Wikipedia that use "Lok Sabha" to make it "House of the People (Lok Sabha)". §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 06:32, 18 April 2019 (UTC)- (talk page watcher) Just noting that I support the current title and will strongly and vehemently oppose any rename to the titles suggested above. To add on to what User:Dharmadhyaksha has already stated, the current title is as per the policy, and the above reasons are just not good enough for a rename. Jorge Stolfi to resolve your concern the accepted way is to write it like this (in an article mostly read by foreigners) " the bill was rejected by the House of the People" (or, better, "the bill was rejected by the lower legislative House")." In an article directly dealing with India related topics that will mostly be read by Indians, one can directly wikilink 'Lok Sabha as that is the less confusing alternative. --DBigXrayᗙ 09:08, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
- Why the name should be changed or not be changed can be discussed when you (Jorge Stolfi) or someone starts an official change request. So will comment on that then.
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- Note: Duplicate edit requests removed, along with multiple copies of article content. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 12:52, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
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Transition period policy on article
Can anyone tell me what is the policy of Wikipedia on editing articles wherein a Legislature is in its transformative stage, as is this Lok Sabha. New Lok Sabha (17th) has not yet begun officially, the present Speaker' term (16th Lok Sabha's) will not end until a day before the new Lok Sabha meets for the first time. Yet the article shows leadership positions vacant, a new Lok Sabha already formed. What should be done? Seomelono (talk) 03:17, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
- My understanding is that the vote totals haven't been declared final yet, so it's premature to start listing representations and leaders of the new parliament. What is the legal status of the old Indian parliament during elections? I'd assume that all the old officers retain their posts until at least nearer the time when the new parliament is convened, as well as the old representation continuing to stand (on the Indian National Congress article there is what I think is a premature reporting of 52 MPs, instead of the old number of 45). Dhtwiki (talk) 06:02, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
Lesenwriter Because now the President of India has dissolved the 16th Lok Sabha & the Election Commissioner has presented the President with the list of elected members for 17th Lok Sabha, many of your edits are now valid, but the issue is you did those edits even before that formality was completed. Also, as per the RoP of Lok Sabha, the Speaker of 16th Lok Sabha is still in her office & will remain so until a day before the new Lok Sabha meets for the first time. How you resolve this technical question? Is the removal of her name right? Need your inputs so as to put a policy for transition period, it does not exist. Seomelono (talk) 14:06, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks. I updated the date to 25th May as you mentioned officially Mr.President dissolved 16th and asked Narendra Modi to form new government today for 17th Lok Sabha on this date. I will make a note of it next time , it was a good faith edit after official results .
On other point, according to me Speaker field should be empty after Mr.President dissolves the government officially and shall be filled after the first convene by new members to elect a new speaker for the lower house . I may not be absolutely right, it is just my understanding. For more details, someone please help to quote from Constitution of India book. Thanks !!... -Lesenwriter (talk) 16:53, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
Lesenwriter Here is the link concerning the term of office- https://speakerloksabha.nic.in/roleofthespeaker.asp Seomelono (talk) 17:13, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
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The Lok Sabha or House of the People is the lower house of India's bicameral Parliament, with the upper house being the Rajya Sabha. Members of the Lok Sabha are elected by adult universal suffrage and a first-past-the-post system to represent their respective constituencies, and they hold their seats for five years or until the body is dissolved by the President on the advice of the council of ministers. The house meets in the Lok Sabha Chambers of the Sansad Bhavan in New Delhi. The maximum strength of the House allotted by the Constitution of India is 552. Currently, the house has 545 seats which is made up by the election of up to 543 elected members and at a maximum, 2 nominated members of the Anglo-Indian Community by the President of India. A total of 131 seats (24.03%) are reserved for representatives of Scheduled Castes (84) and Scheduled Tribes (47). The quorum for the House is 10% of the total membership. The Lok Sabha, unless sooner dissolved, continues to operate for five years from the date appointed for its first meeting. However, while a proclamation of emergency is in operation, this period may be extended by Parliament by law.[3][4] An exercise to redraw Lok Sabha constituencies' boundaries is carried out by the Boundary Delimitation Commission of India every decade based on the Indian census, last of which was conducted in 2011.[5] This exercise earlier also included redistribution of seats among states based on demographic changes but that provision of the mandate of the commission was suspended in 1976 following a constitutional amendment to incentivise the family planning programme which was being implemented.[6] The 17th Lok Sabha was elected in May 2019 and is the latest to date.[7] The Lok Sabha has its own television channel, Lok Sabha TV, headquartered within the premises of Parliament.[8] |
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References
- ^ "Parliament of India". 164.100.47.194.
- ^ "जीवन के सभी महत्वपूर्ण कार्य संस्कृत में इसलिए वह हमारी भाषा". Dainik Jagran.
- ^ "Parliament of India: Lok Sabha". Archived from the original on 1 June 2015.
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- ^ "A decade from now, three states will contribute a third of Lok Sabha MPs". Archived from the original on 8 May 2016.
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- ^ "PM Modi's New Cabinet Could See Prestige Posts For Smriti Irani, Bengal". NDTV.com. Retrieved 24 May 2019.
- ^ "Welcome to LokSabha Website". Archived from the original on 16 January 2014.
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recently added citation
A citation to a source http://164.100.47.194/Loksabha/Members/StatewiseList.aspx was recently added. There is no metadata (name, title, publisher, date, etc) about this source, and the URL is to an IP address. is this in fact a reliable source? DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 17:54, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
Government and opposition
There is many parties in others not in NDA or UPA so anyone please remove that Kaustubhkul (talk) 14:12, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
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Hi, The number of MPs is incorrect for UPA and NDA when compared to the info on their respective wiki pages. e.g., the UPA page shows 110 seats whereas this particular page shows only 91. I believe this page is not up-to-date. Could someone please check and update?
Thanks, Deekshith Darkn8DJ (talk) 08:07, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Darkn8DJ: The difference in UPA's numbers are due to Shivasena's placement. They're in coalition in UPA but they don't caucus together in Lok Sabha. That's why UPA page considers the 19 SS seats to be part of UPA and raises the number from 91 to 110. ---CX Zoom(he/him) (let's talk|contribs) 06:28, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
Not done: per CX Zoom casualdejekyll 18:31, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
Replacing Government of India with Second Modi Ministry
Hey so I have a suggestion of replacing it because many parliament articles use cabinets ministry or wtv u call it as government article. Angshaojun08, 06:07, 9 February 2022 (UTC). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Angshaojun08 (talk • contribs)
Requesting people not to add parties to the government based off sources that cite their support to the ruling BJP in state assemblies.
The past addition of YSRCON and BJD to the government was based on sources that they have expressed support for BJP in some place or another, similar sources are being used to cite the support of JD(S) to the government. Please stop adding parties to the government based on such reports and only rely on official spokesperson's statements to make changes — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xoocit (talk • contribs) 12:49, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
लोकसभा election
Tell in detail 103.117.202.212 (talk) 15:16, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
How many seats in lok sabha
Currently 113.193.85.18 (talk) 10:12, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
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In the "History" section, please un-italicise the phrase acceded to Pakistan. This shouldn't be italicised in normal text, and there's no apparent reason to consider this text abnormal. 49.198.51.54 (talk) 10:39, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
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