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@ElNuevoEinstein: Do you happen to have a timestamp for when the video reference you added verifies the statement around Cantwell's half siblings? I searched through the YouTube transcript and am not seeing it, though the autotranslation quality is mediocre so it may just be not hitting my search keywords. GorillaWarfare (talk) 15:05, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am currently going through the entire interview, I will give the timestamp as soon as I reach it. --ElNuevoEinstein (talk) 16:52, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:53, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It is 2:59:11, but in a different YouTube video. I will improve the ref as soon as I am at home. ElNuevoEinstein (talk) 18:22, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --ElNuevoEinstein (talk) 19:46, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Appreciate you tracking that down! GorillaWarfare (talk) 20:01, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for improving the formatting of the ref. The video is actually not by Elle Reeve, it is a copy of Cantwell's own recording of the interview, published originally on his website but no longer available there. So I guess technically the ref is still not all right. --ElNuevoEinstein (talk) 20:03, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, thanks, fixed. GorillaWarfare (talk) 20:34, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Somebody needs to go through the archive of his Radical Agenda, there's a ton of material in it hitherto unused in the article

The archive of the first 348 episodes can be found here: [1] He unveils a lot of details about his childhood in some of the episodes that could be used for this article. I've only been going through a small part of this treasure of dung and garbage, and it's is morbidly fascinating. --ElNuevoEinstein (talk) 21:56, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe @GorillaWarfare? --ElNuevoEinstein (talk) 21:58, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@ElNuevoEinstein: I have absolutely 0 interest in doing that, personally. If you find anything you think ought to be used, just keep WP:ABOUTSELF in mind. Additionally it will be helpful if you can provide a timestamp so the rest of us don't have to wade through long episodes to verify statements—{{cite AV media}} has some special parameters to help with it. GorillaWarfare (talk) 22:11, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pepper spray incident

@ElNuevoEinstein: For one, menacing is a crime. But also, we should not be making additions like this to the article that are solely based on Cantwell's statements and videos or other primary sources. While Cantwell's own words can be used to verify basic biographical information (for example, in the "Life" section, though many of these are actually published in secondary RS), we should not be using them to report on events that haven't been described in secondary RS. If secondary sources don't think Cantwell showing up on someone's porch is noteworthy, we should not be including it. GorillaWarfare (talk) 01:14, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@GorillaWarfare: I think part of our duty here is to expose to as broad an audience as possible what a lame douchebag Cantwell is. Maybe it should be mentioned in the Life section though rather than under Criminal Charges and Convictions, since no charges were filed. ElNuevoEinstein (talk) 17:41, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That is absolutely not our duty. Our duty is to represent fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without editorial bias, all the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic. Please remember that WP:BLP applies to talk pages as well—you may wish to redact your insult. If you want to start a blog about to expose Cantwell's flaws, be my guest, but don't use Wikipedia for it. GorillaWarfare (talk) 18:06, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]