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In the page it claims that ha-Satan is seen by Jews as an opponent of God, when this is not true. Most Jews hold ha-Satan as a servant of God. This line should be taken out as it is highly misleading. [[User:Rafoage|Rafoage]] ([[User talk:Rafoage|talk]]) 05:27, 9 November 2020 (UTC) |
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The historical section is a disaster. See above what Oncenawhile had written in 2012. We are in 2017, and NOTHING has been done.
There must be a section devoted to the comparison between the situation of Jews in Islamic countries and Christian countries in the Middle Age. All historians, such as Mark Cohen (Under Crescent and Cross, 1994), Raymond Scheindlin (specialist of An-Andalus), Bernard Lewis etc. agree to say that there is a great difference and that the situation was much better in Islamic countries.
Jews in islamic countries during the Middle Age could be viziers (is there one prime minister in the Christian Middle age ?), ambassadors etc see for instance Samuel ibn Nagrela, Hasdaï ibn Shaprut, Yechiel ben Isaac ibn Hassan, Abu al-Fadl Hasdaï etc.
About the Almohade's period, and the violence against Jews, it must be contextualized: all people suffered, Muslims, Christians and Jews were victimes of Almohades.
About the modern period, we can read : "The State of Israel was proclaimed on 14 May 1948, one day before the expiry of the British Mandate of Palestine.[56] Not long after, five Arab countries—Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and Iraq—attacked Israel, launching the 1948 Arab–Israeli War". Was this attack motivated by religious feelings ? It is not sure. And what Israël had done that can explain this attack ? The article doesn't say any thing about this subject, why ?.
We can read also that 1000 000 million Jews were expelled from Arab countries. We must know how many Palestinians were killed or expelled. The article says nothing about this.
There are in Israel minorities of Muslims who are not Palestinians, and who are discriminated : Doms, and Circassians, because they are not Jews ; they have nothing to do with Arab-Israeli conflict.
About conversions, they are not contextualized. Of course, there were collective conversions to Judaism before Islam, in the Roman Empire, and the Arabic Peninsula (see the kingdom of Himyar). The question is : until what period ? Did it continue after the birth of islam, and if not, why did it stop ?--86.249.68.241 (talk) 21:45, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
- Cut to the chase, get to the point direct, and add following to the lead.
- The idea of Islamic supremacy is encapsulated in the formula, "Islam is exalted and nothing is exalted above it.[1] Abraham, Moses, Hebrew prophets, and Jesus were all prophets of Islam, but according to Muslim tradition their message and the texts of the Torah and the Gospels were corrupted by Jews and Christians.[1] 202.156.182.84 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:42, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
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"Traditionally Jews living in Muslim lands, known (along with Christians) as dhimmis, were allowed to practice their religion and to administer their internal affairs but subject to certain conditions.[41] They had to pay the jizya (a per capita tax imposed on free, adult non-Muslim males) to the Muslim government but were exempted from paying the zakat (a tax imposed on free, adult Muslim males)."
Please change the last line which states that the Zakat is a tax imposed on free adult Muslim males, to "a tax imposed on all Muslims with a surplus of wealth." All Muslims are required to pay Zakat it is a pillar of faith. The only valid exemption are those who do not have wealth to give. Please refer to this fatwa http://askimam.org/public/question_detail/6689.html Pitts.nordera (talk) 18:29, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
- Not done You need a reliable source, not a personal web site. Also, the source needs to make it clear that what you state was the way the zakat was applied in the middle ages, which may or may not be the way it is interpreted now. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 10:22, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
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...Meccan and Medinan chapters, some of which are long.Although there are differences in the Quranic and Biblical accounts... Joseph Stocke (talk) 00:27, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
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In the page it claims that ha-Satan is seen by Jews as an opponent of God, when this is not true. Most Jews hold ha-Satan as a servant of God. This line should be taken out as it is highly misleading. Rafoage (talk) 05:27, 9 November 2020 (UTC)