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*'''Keep''' Huh, I searched in Italian and found a lot more: [https://roma.repubblica.it/cronaca/2016/03/24/news/san_leone_magno_storie_di_mala_educacio_n-136243098/] [https://roma.repubblica.it/cronaca/2016/03/29/news/_la_rivoluzione_al_san_leone_magno_quando_la_scuola_apri_alle_ragazze_-136515014/] including what I believe is a speech from the Pope: [http://www.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/it/speeches/1989/november/documents/hf_jp-ii_spe_19891105_istituto-s-leone-magno.html] [https://www.raoulwallenberg.net/news/the-istituto-san-leone-magno-of-rome-has-been-officially-proclaimed-house-of-life/] [https://romah24.com/trieste-salario/news/allistituto-san-leone-magno-si-potra-donare-il-sangue-ecco-quando-2-2-2-2-2-2/] Have to run, but there's more. [[User:SportingFlyer|SportingFlyer]] ''<span style="font-size:small; vertical-align:top;">[[User talk:SportingFlyer|T]]</span>''·''<span style="font-size:small; vertical-align:bottom;">[[Special:Contributions/SportingFlyer|C]]</span>'' 11:41, 24 October 2020 (UTC) |
*'''Keep''' Huh, I searched in Italian and found a lot more: [https://roma.repubblica.it/cronaca/2016/03/24/news/san_leone_magno_storie_di_mala_educacio_n-136243098/] [https://roma.repubblica.it/cronaca/2016/03/29/news/_la_rivoluzione_al_san_leone_magno_quando_la_scuola_apri_alle_ragazze_-136515014/] including what I believe is a speech from the Pope: [http://www.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/it/speeches/1989/november/documents/hf_jp-ii_spe_19891105_istituto-s-leone-magno.html] [https://www.raoulwallenberg.net/news/the-istituto-san-leone-magno-of-rome-has-been-officially-proclaimed-house-of-life/] [https://romah24.com/trieste-salario/news/allistituto-san-leone-magno-si-potra-donare-il-sangue-ecco-quando-2-2-2-2-2-2/] Have to run, but there's more. [[User:SportingFlyer|SportingFlyer]] ''<span style="font-size:small; vertical-align:top;">[[User talk:SportingFlyer|T]]</span>''·''<span style="font-size:small; vertical-align:bottom;">[[Special:Contributions/SportingFlyer|C]]</span>'' 11:41, 24 October 2020 (UTC) |
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::You can't seriously tell me that your using the Pope writing them a letter as an indicator that they are notable -[[hysterical laughter emoji]]-. --[[User:Adamant1|Adamant1]] ([[User talk:Adamant1|talk]]) 23:22, 24 October 2020 (UTC) |
::You can't seriously tell me that your using the Pope writing them a letter as an indicator that they are notable -[[hysterical laughter emoji]]-. --[[User:Adamant1|Adamant1]] ([[User talk:Adamant1|talk]]) 23:22, 24 October 2020 (UTC) |
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:::That's not my argument. My argument is that there's enough sources out there to make a [[WP:GNG]] pass, and since the discussion so far has been about how the article fails [[WP:GNG]], and specifically about how "there are zero newspaper sources online," I'm demonstrating that the school has been discussed significantly. The fact the Pope has taken notice of the school isn't a notability determinant, but is certainly helpful. [[User:SportingFlyer|SportingFlyer]] ''<span style="font-size:small; vertical-align:top;">[[User talk:SportingFlyer|T]]</span>''·''<span style="font-size:small; vertical-align:bottom;">[[Special:Contributions/SportingFlyer|C]]</span>'' 09:37, 25 October 2020 (UTC) |
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This secondary school doesn't seem notable since the article only cites a single primary source and I was unable to find the multiple in-depth, non-trivial, reliable sources about it in a WP:BEFORE that it would need to pass either WP:GNG or WP:NORG. Plus, secondary schools are not inherently notable per the RfC about it. --Adamant1 (talk) 07:45, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 09:37, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 09:37, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
- My understanding is that secondary schools are inherently notable, if their existence is substantiated. Also, only "unduly self-serving [or] an exceptional claim(s)" should have been deleted from the article, as per WP:SELFSOURCE Jzsj (talk) 01:38, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
- Nope. Otherwise I wouldn't have said they aren't. Read WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. Specifically bullet point 3 "secondary schools are not presumed to be notable simply because they exist." I'm not sure what second point is in refrence to. As I didn't delete anything from the article, unduly self-serving or otherwise. I don't think my nomination comment had anything to do with the deletion of content in the article either. Adamant1 (talk) 05:29, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delete: The article does not pass GNG or NORG. BEFORE showed only sparse routine run of the mill local coverage, nothing that establishes notability. The single reference in the article does not meet WP:IS or WP:SIGCOV. // Timothy :: talk 23:59, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:SIGCOV. I did several searches prior to !voting and found very little. In books there are some passing references, and I found this news story about the school's 70th anniversary, though my Italian is weak so I can't read it entirely, but it appears to be the sort of local news to commemorate a school's anniversary. There are literally zero newspaper sources online. Bearian (talk) 17:21, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Huh, I searched in Italian and found a lot more: [1] [2] including what I believe is a speech from the Pope: [3] [4] [5] Have to run, but there's more. SportingFlyer T·C 11:41, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
- You can't seriously tell me that your using the Pope writing them a letter as an indicator that they are notable -hysterical laughter emoji-. --Adamant1 (talk) 23:22, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
- That's not my argument. My argument is that there's enough sources out there to make a WP:GNG pass, and since the discussion so far has been about how the article fails WP:GNG, and specifically about how "there are zero newspaper sources online," I'm demonstrating that the school has been discussed significantly. The fact the Pope has taken notice of the school isn't a notability determinant, but is certainly helpful. SportingFlyer T·C 09:37, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
- You can't seriously tell me that your using the Pope writing them a letter as an indicator that they are notable -hysterical laughter emoji-. --Adamant1 (talk) 23:22, 24 October 2020 (UTC)