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Payload Improvements

In the development section the article lists a 125% increase in payload over the UH-1N but in the design section it lists the same stat but with 170% increase. Which is it? -Noha307 (talk) 19:48, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bell sources list the 125% on the UH-1Y page and 170% in the pocket guide. Maybe 125% was the minimum goal for the project. Anyway, I combined the text and listed the lower 125%. -fnlayson (talk) 20:29, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

According to Wikipedia, payload increased from 4,500 lbs. to 6,660 lbs. -- a 48% increase (note non-fan-boy arithmetic). Percent is hard, huh? The links are dead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.53.21.210 (talk) 19:14, 24 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Or you're using the wrong figures. - BilCat (talk) 22:43, 24 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Per the article, "Over the years new avionics and radios, in addition to modern door guns and safety upgrades, have greatly increased the UH-1N's empty weight. With a maximum speed of approximately 100 knots (190 km/h) and an inability to lift much more than its own crew, fuel and ammunition, the UH-1N, while useful, is limited in its utility." So obviously the empty weight in service had increased over the listed empty weight. So no, it's not "fan-boy arithmetic". This is why WP doesn't accept original research, but reports what the sources state. Granted, company information has to be taken with a grain of salt, as they are trying promote the new aircraft, but it's reasonable in this case to assume they're right. - BilCat (talk) 22:56, 24 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The 6,660 lb/4,500 lb ratio is 1.48 or 148%, which falls within the 125% to 170% listed above. -Fnlayson (talk) 22:59, 24 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, arithmetic is hard. You don't understand the difference between "percent increase" and "percent of." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.53.21.210 (talk) 15:46, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Whatever. I listed a ratio, the latter. The UH-1N's useful load above may not be right. But if it is then the UH-1Y sources have stated a ratio instead of a percent increase (25% or 70% increase). -Fnlayson (talk) 18:36, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This article certainly lives down to Wikipedia quality standards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.53.21.210 (talk) 18:01, 8 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:No original research. -Fnlayson (talk) 20:52, 8 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Number of vehicles in service

The article states that 31 are in service, but that was in back in 2010. Can anyone update that statistic? Coolgeek96 (talk) 23:49, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Just updated to 54 in use from Aviation Week's 2014 source book. -Fnlayson (talk) 00:19, 13 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone with adequate sources please update again? Nearly 6 years passed since this. Thanks, DPdH (talk) 19:46, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Did you check the article? The numbers is service is not listed in the article; probably removed by another editor that thinks that info is fluff or something. -Fnlayson (talk) 20:18, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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-== Promo tone ==
-This article is promotional and/or overly enthusiatsic in tone and should be flagged as not in encyclopedia style.  [[User:202.82.171.186|202.82.171.186]] 04:11, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
-* In which sections? -[[User:Fnlayson|Fnlayson]] 04:13, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
-::Yes, that would be helpful. - [[User:BillCJ|BillCJ]] 05:05, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
-::: I was noticing the same thing, but it appears to have been untouched for seven years now.  Anyone know the aircraft well enough to take a stab at improving the article? [[User:Bagheera|Bagheera]] ([[User talk:Bagheera|talk]]) 22:13, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
-:::* Why do you think it has been untouched that whole time?  Text has trimmed and reworded multiple times.  For example, the quoted text below was remove from the article a long time ago. -[[User:Fnlayson|Fnlayson]] ([[User talk:Fnlayson|talk]]) 22:29, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
-:::: Suspect I was mis-reading some date stamps.  Obviously, I was wrong on that point.  Still strikes me as a bit Promo sounding, but that's why I made the comment here rather than taking a stab at editing the article.  I don't know the aircraft well enough (source material, etc.) to really feel confident making it feel more encyclopedic.  Cheers.  [[User:Bagheera|Bagheera]] ([[User talk:Bagheera|talk]]) 18:03, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
-::::* I've trimmed some uncited text that might seem promotional.  I won't bother doing much more until some specifics are provided... -[[User:Fnlayson|Fnlayson]] ([[User talk:Fnlayson|talk]]) 18:55, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
-The end of paragraph five of the Development section sounds like something straight from a promotional pamphlet.
-'The UH-1Y will have the power needed to maneuver aggressively and evasively. Ground forces commanders riding in the Venom will have all the radios and fire power they need and the range of the transport helicopters carrying their men.'
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-: Long gone. -[[User:Fnlayson|Fnlayson]] ([[User talk:Fnlayson|talk]]) 22:29, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
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 Can someone with adequate sources please update again? Nearly 6 years passed since this. Thanks, [[User:DPdH|DPdH]] ([[User talk:DPdH|talk]]) 19:46, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
 : Did you check the article? The numbers is service is not listed in the article; probably removed by another editor that thinks that info is fluff or something. [[User:Fnlayson|-Fnlayson]] ([[User talk:Fnlayson|talk]]) 20:18, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
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