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Editing Washington Huskies football

Hello J1n9.

 I'm writing this to explain why I edited the Washington Huskies football team page the way I did. First off, I understand the need to list the national championships that the University of Washington recognizes and those that it just mentions in it's media guide. I emailed the Athletic Director and he emailed back to me that the University only recognizes the 1960 and 1991 seasons as national championships and accordingly recognizes them in their stadium.  To put a table that also shows the national championships that they don't recognize also, to me, seems a little petty. I think that it is appropriate to show the unclaimed championships in the header at the beginning of the article and not in the Championship section. If my edits didn't seem the flow with article, I apologize and hope that we can solve the editing problem reasonably.

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Washington Huskies football | Chris Petersen era

Hi, J1n9. I have submitted a few changes to the Chris Petersen section of Washington Huskies football. These changes include corrections to grammar, additional context, and more thorough citations that provide insights into details otherwise left ambiguous. In my view, it is important to balance encyclopedic format with context and appropriate citations for reader edification. If there is disagreement, please reach out to me, so we can discuss. I'm happy to work together to improve content. Thank you! Melanyesm (talk) 21:05, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Washington Huskies football | Rivalries

I also made a citation correction and a few grammar, punctuation, and word consistency changes. Melanyesm (talk) 23:07, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi, I'm a writer at Sports Illustrated hoping to get in touch with you for a story on the UCF football team. Could you find me on Twitter at @stephapstein? (I'm new to this so not sure I want to post my email address on what appears to be an open page, but happy to DM it to you so we can proceed.) Thank you! Stephaniesi (talk) 18:18, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Accessdate

The accessdate goes off of UTC time (UK time), therefore making it January 15 when generated. Not everyone is from the United States and it does not effect the references. Now granted, I am from the United States, but there's usually no need to fix the accessdate unless there is a typo in the year. Corky 02:24, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Got it. Thank you very much for this tip. It will be more than helpful when I date content on Wikipedia in the future. I appreciate your edits to the Arizona page, from which I can learn and improve. J1n9 (talk)

No problem. If you have any questions, feel free to drop by my talk page. Corky 03:38, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

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Washington Huskies football

I am also sharing this message with Corkythehornetfan. I spent several days updating the Washington Huskies football page. These changes include corrections to grammar, additional context, and more thorough content and citations that provide insights into details otherwise left ambiguous over the course of time. I've done the research, and I know the history. Perhaps you are not aware, I hear a lot of false information regarding Don James. I think it's important to provide facts and balanced information, along with citations that support this man of integrity. I am personally familiar with Don James because my husband coached with him at the University of Washington between 1989 and 1992. In my view, it is important to balance encyclopedic format with context and appropriate citations for reader edification. I previously asked others to please reach out to me if there is disagreement, so we can discuss. It's very disheartening and so frustrating to find all of my work wiped away in a matter of minutes or hours. Please collaborate with me on changes. I am open to reducing or revising citations, I'm happy to work together to improve content. Thank you! Melanyesm (talk) 03:57, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi! I'm working on your talk page to specify issues I observed. Please check it out later. J1n9 (talk) 04:00, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! I really appreciate the feedback and your willingness to share with me on my talk page, so I can make the necessary changes and yet maintain the breadth of knowledge I know I come to Wikipedia to discover when I have questions regarding a topic. Having the information available to those who may not have all of the facts is very important to me. It makes it easy for people to become educated on issues when information can be accessed with a few quick clicks. ... Thank you very much for collaborating with me. Melanyesm (talk) 04:20, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for listening. I did't actually remove much -- other than redundant citations per WP:OVERCITE (this had to be done due to Wikipedia's requirements) and the William P. Gerberding thing (not necessarily unacceptable but would require better citations to justify the claim). I had looked at every citation before I decided to remove them. I honestly agree with you on "Gerberding's betrayal." However without respectable and reliable enough citations, such things just cannot appear on Wikipedia, a platform of fairness. As for these things I simply used the comment feature to hide them instead of removing them. Without better citations, un-commenting them will bring them back. Except for changes above to meet the community standards, I really didn't change your writing. And I think you may find the edited version comfortable. Shamefully I do have to revert some changes now -- please read my edition (in which apparent issues are resolved in my opinion) and offer me some suggestions. We can work on parts which you doubt. Thank you! J1n9 (talk) 04:31, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

I've had a chance to review your latest changes. I am okay with all, but one: "More than a decade after James' abrupt resignation, many Washington faithful still believed that he and his team had been unfairly treated by the conference and the university administration under Gerberding.[32][33][34]" This is not an acceptable statement to me. Please understand, the cited issues involving the University of Washington and William Gerberding are facts, not just opinions of the "Husky faithful". I spent days updating this page with very precise language that supports the facts. It speaks to the truth. Since we agreed on the previous version, I have changed this part back to the previous version. Please, can we pause on this page? I work two jobs. It has been a very long week. It's 9:00 on Friday night here in Seattle. I'm not feeling well, and I haven't had dinner. I'm happy to collaborate, but I feel like every time I look at this page something else of my contribution has been changed when we agreed we would collaborate before changes. Please, can we leave it alone for a while? I can't keep doing this. I have tremendous respect for what you're doing. Please respect me and my time, as well. I would be very grateful. I am not at all intending to be rude, but I am approaching the end of my rope at this late hour on Friday. Please let me know when you have read these messages. I don't want them to be left for others to read. Thanks very much! I appreciate you communicating with me ... and listening. :) Melanyesm (talk) 05:44, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback. Unfortunately, after reviewing attached references, the evidence is not strong enough to determine that "betrayal" from the administration was a fact (I suggest that more national media/media sources outside of the Pacific Northwest are needed). However, it is good to say "More than a decade after James' abrupt resignation, many still believed that he and his team had been unfairly treated by the conference and the university administration under Gerberding." I'll post something related to this over the weekend. Keep in mind that some of Wikipedia's readers may not have experienced this "controversy." Without most convincing/unanimous evidence, softer language could be more persuasive. I'm removing "Husky faithful" part now. After all, it was inaccurate to assume that people had such opinions were "Husky faithful." Thanks for pointing that out. Additionally,

don't feel too stressed. The current version looks alright. J1n9 (talk) 05:52, 20 January 2018 (UTC)