Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 May 28

May 28

Category:2015 in San Jose, California

• Propose deleting Category:2015 in San Jose, California - Template:Lc1
  

Nominator's rationale: overly narrow category. we dont need this for san jose, san fran doesnt even have it. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 19:45, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

• Delete This seems to narrow to create anything but an entire tree of under-populated categories. RevelationDirect (talk) 10:31, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Category:2015 in the San Francisco Bay Area

• Propose deleting Category:2015 in the San Francisco Bay Area - Template:Lc1
  

Nominator's rationale: overly narrow category. san francisco doesnt have years, i dont think a sub region of california needs history by year, or even decade. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 19:44, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

• Combine The outcome of this nomination should match the one above, whether I agree with that outcome or not. RevelationDirect (talk) 10:32, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Category:2010 in Berkeley, California

• Propose deleting Category:2010 in Berkeley, California - Template:Lc1
  

Nominator's rationale: overly narrow categorization. we dont need years in berkeley, history of berkeley is adequate. we dont even have years in san francisco, which is the only city with enough history to justify it in the area. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 19:37, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

• Combine The outcome of this nomination should match the one above, whether I agree with that outcome or not. RevelationDirect (talk) 10:32, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Category:2010 in the San Francisco Bay Area

• Propose deleting Category:2010 in the San Francisco Bay Area - Template:Lc1
  

Nominator's rationale: overly narrow categorization. we dont even have san francisco by year, and years by region seems too vague. I dont even think we need decades in sfba . we do have Category:Centuries in San Francisco, California. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 19:36, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

• Combine The outcome of this nomination should match the one above, whether I agree with that outcome or not. RevelationDirect (talk) 10:32, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Category:Sociocultural globalization

• Propose renaming Category:Sociocultural globalization to Category:Cultural globalization

Nominator's rationale: rename category to align with article name Cultural globalization. It was nominated for speedy rename but opposed. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:37, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Copy of oppose at CFDS

Oppose The original name is derived from the article Globalization as one of the topmost aspects of Globalization. The downsteam categories also derive from this category name. It is to indicate its relevance to both social science and culture studies. Since it is an upper tier category that has now been in place for several years, I do not see how it qualifies for "speedy" rename. There has been no explanation given on the category talk page. Meclee (talk) 05:10, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

• Oppose It is opposed here for the same reason: The original name is derived from the article Globalization as one of the topmost aspects of Globalization. The downsteam categories also derive from this category name. It is to indicate its relevance to both social science and culture studies. It is an upper tier category that has now been in place for several years, There has been no explanation given on the category talk page. Meclee (talk) 21:48, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

• There is generally a preference to name categories after articles, if possible. An issue on the side here is that it's not really clear what the difference is between "sociocultural" and "cultural". We have very few articles and categories that start with "sociocultural", and culture seems to be an aspect of society anyway (Category:Culture is a child category of Category:Society). Marcocapelle (talk) 06:07, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

• Rename To match reasonably named main article. If Meclee would like to propose a RM for that article and it passes, we could of course speedily rename this back. Disagreements about the article names should not be rehashed in the category space. RevelationDirect (talk) 10:34, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Comment - I switched the <<cat main>> and <<cat more>> tags to address the problem of the linked article name, since that was an objection. The difference between "cultural" and "sociocultural" is the difference between Humanties and Social science. Articles contained in the category under discussion could be of interest to both disciplinary areas. The "sociocultural" label is not unusual. A related category is Category:Sociocultural evolution, which articles address related theory. Meclee (talk) 14:38, 29 May 2016 (UTC) P.S.: To my knowledge, there is not now or has there in the past been a discussion in article namespace about renaming article Culture. That title is good for that article. The current status of Category:Sociocultural globalization arose due to different editors at different times attaching different <<cat main>> and <<cat more>> tags, thus confusing the two labels. As stated above, those tags have now been changed to an appropriate order. Meclee (talk) 15:35, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Category:Lawn weeds

• Propose deleting Category:Lawn weeds

Nominator's rationale Any plant can be viewed as "lawn weed" when it is among monoculture turf grass or as desired plant, when it is organic lawn for example. Cathry (talk) 18:16, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

• Keep, as the entries appear to be sourced as commonly known weeds. --Zfish118^⋉talk 01:42, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
• Delete. "Weediness" is a matter of opinion, not a defining characteristic of a plant. It's a potentially sourceable opinion, but I'm not seeing that the entries actually have sources for the categorization. Pennisetum clandestinum notes that's it's grown as a lawn grass, not a weed in lawns. Arctium and Rumex crispus might be considered weeds, but they don't survive repeated mowing, and thus aren't weeds of lawns. Plantdrew (talk) 05:01, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
• Delete Only 3 of 17 currently in the category even state in their article that they are a "lawn weed," and only one of those has a source. One of the three states it as an opinion by the omnipresent "some people", "considered weeds in North American lawns by some people." One of them, Achillea millefolium is actually sourced as a lawn replacement and some of them are described as beneficial weeds. Many seem simply to be beautiful native flowers that some editor has discovered in their lawn, or more likely, garden. First Light (talk) 08:50, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Category:Roman Catholic dioceses in Réunion

• Propose deleting Category:Roman Catholic dioceses in Réunion

Nominator's rationale Title is misleading. There are no dioceses (plural) in Réunion. The Church is organised as a single diocese. Delete per WP:small cat. Move single content to Category:Roman Catholic Church in Réunion. Laurel Lodged (talk) 15:19, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Redirect, to Roman Catholic Church in Reunion, to preserve place in subcategories. --Zfish118^⋉talk 01:44, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Category:Top lists

• Propose merging Category:Top lists to Category:Lists of superlatives.

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge as duplication of Category:Lists of superlatives. Trivialist (talk) 13:56, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Category:Weapon used in assassination of an U.S. President

• Propose deleting Category:Weapon used in assassination of an U.S. President - Template:Lc1
  

Nominator's rationale: Only contains one article about a specific weapon (John F. Kennedy assassination rifle); the rest are about types of weapons (British Bull Dog revolver, Carcano, Derringer) for which being used in a presidential assassination is not a defining characteristic. (Also, the name is grammatically incorrect.) Trivialist (talk) 13:44, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Category:Lists of cheapest things

• Propose merging Category:Lists of cheapest things to Category:Monetary lists and Category:Lists of superlatives

Nominator's rationale: upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT, currently contains only one article. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:21, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

• Upmerge And that article is a prime one for deletion at that. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 09:50, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Category:Roman Catholic bishops from Réunion

• Propose renaming Category:Roman Catholic bishops from Réunion to Category:Réunionnais Roman Catholic bishops

Nominator's rationale: Réunionnais seems to be the adjective for a person from Réunion, as the one page in this cat refers to the subject as the "Réunionnais Bishop", and this should be renamed to follow the general pattern of the cat. MSJapan (talk) 05:10, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

• Keep per Category:People from Réunion. Oculi (talk) 10:15, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
• Keep Who knew that Réunionnais was even a word? Laurel Lodged (talk) 15:03, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Category:Glimcher Realty Trust

• Propose renaming Category:Glimcher Realty Trust to Category:WP Glimcher

Nominator's rationale: Glimcher Realty Trust no longer exists. The company is now known as WP Glimcher, and the WP Glimcher name is used on their malls, such as this page, which says "Managed by WP Glimcher" at the bottom of the page. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 02:50, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Category:Canadian Business Hall of Fame

• Propose Deleting Category:Canadian Business Hall of Fame

Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCAWARD (WP:NONDEFINING)

The Canadian Business Hall of Fame is a Junior Achievement award for prominent business people. Everyone in this category should already by in Category:Canadian businesspeople by industry and Category:Canadian businesspeople by province or territory. I went through 10 of the 100 people in this category and 2 mentioned the award in passing and 8 not at all. There is already a list of the winners here – RevelationDirect (talk) 01:23, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Note: Notified TruthbringerToronto as the category creator and this discussion has been included in WikiProject Business. – RevelationDirect (talk) 01:23, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Category:Recipients of the Bulgarian Memorial Medal of the European War 1915-1918

• Propose Deleting Category:Bulgarian Memorial Medal of the European War 1915-1918

• Propose Deleting Category:Recipients of the Bulgarian Memorial Medal of the European War 1915-1918

Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, WP:OCAWARD (WP:NONDEFINING) and WP:V

There is no main article and these 2 categories contain just 1 article: Miklós Horthy who isn't Bulgarian nor did he fight in/for Bulgaria. Since Bulgaria joined WWI late and lost badly, the award either was given out sparingly or wasn't bragged about after the war. The award is so obscure that most Google search results point to these categories, but some sites are selling a reproduction so the award must have existed but it's tough to verify recipients. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:19, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Note: The notified Afil as the category creator and I added this discussion to WikiProject Bulgaria. – RevelationDirect (talk) 01:19, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

• Background I nominated all the other 1-article award categories for Miklós Horthy here but I overlooked this one with that nomination. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:19, 28 May 2016 (UTC)