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Online Ambassador application: shubhamelle

Shubhamelle1994

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Shubhamelle1994 (talk · contribs)

1. Why do you want to be a Wikipedia Ambassador?

   YOUR ANSWER

2. In three sentences or less, summarize your involvement with Wikimedia projects.

   YOUR ANSWER (OPTIONAL)

3. Please indicate a few articles to which you have made significant content contributions. (e.g. DYK, GA, FA, major revisions/expansions/copyedits).

   YOUR ANSWER

4. How have you been involved with welcoming and helping new users on Wikipedia?

   YOUR ANSWER (OPTIONAL)

5. What do you see as the most important ways we could welcome newcomers or help new users become active contributors?

   YOUR ANSWER (OPTIONAL)

6. Have you had major conflicts with other editors? Blocks or bans? Involvement in arbitration? Feel free to offer context, if necessary.

   YOUR ANSWER

7. How often do you edit Wikipedia and check in on ongoing discussions? Will you be available regularly for at least two hours per week, in your role as a mentor?

   YOUR ANSWER

8. How would you make sure your students were not violating copyright laws?

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9. If one of your students had an issue with copyright violation how would you resolve it?

   YOUR ANSWER

10. In your _own_ words describe what copyright violation is.

    YOUR ANSWER

11. What else should we know about you that is relevant to being a Wikipedia Ambassador?

    YOUR ANSWER (OPTIONAL)

Shubhamelle1994 (talk) 10:15, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Endorsements

(Two endorsements are needed for online ambassador approval.)

 Not done No questions were answered. — xaosflux ^Talk 19:49, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

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Online Ambassador application: Pigsonthewing

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Pigsonthewing

Pigsonthewing (talk · contribs)

1. Why do you want to be a Wikipedia Ambassador?

   I think it would be a useful adjunct to my work as a Wikimedian in Residence. I already teach some university classes to edit Wikipedia.

2. In three sentences or less, summarize your involvement with Wikimedia projects.

   A long list - please see my en.WP user page.

3. Please indicate a few articles to which you have made significant content contributions. (e.g. DYK, GA, FA, major revisions/expansions/copyedits).

   Please see User:Pigsonthewing/dyk

4. How have you been involved with welcoming and helping new users on Wikipedia?

   As a Wikimedian in Residence, I have trained over 70 new users already this year.

5. What do you see as the most important ways we could welcome newcomers or help new users become active contributors?

   Reducing the aggression with which we respond to "imperfect" edits.

6. Have you had major conflicts with other editors? Blocks or bans? Involvement in arbitration? Feel free to offer context, if necessary.

   None that are relevant

7. How often do you edit Wikipedia and check in on ongoing discussions? Will you be available regularly for at least two hours per week, in your role as a mentor?

   Daily.

8. How would you make sure your students were not violating copyright laws?

   By training them properly; and reviewing their work

9. If one of your students had an issue with copyright violation how would you resolve it?

   1) remove the coyvio ASAP 2) speak with the student individually

10. In your _own_ words describe what copyright violation is.

    Miuse of others' intellectual property

11. What else should we know about you that is relevant to being a Wikipedia Ambassador?

    I regularly organise editathons. The next is Wikipedia:GLAM/Thinktank/Event_1

Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:02, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Endorsements

(Two endorsements are needed for online ambassador approval.)

• Support: Andy is a long term Wikimedian and an accredited Wikimedia UK trainer. I have learnt a lot from him when supporting him at Editathons etc. He is also an experienced Wikimedian in Residence. Fabian Tompsett (WMUK) (talk) 15:58, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
• Endorse- longtime experienced Wikipedian. --L235 (t / c / ping in reply) 22:58, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
• Endorse: I have collaborated well with Andy and he is very experienced with teaching others about wikipedia. Would do very well in this position. Montanabw^(talk) 20:13, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
• Endorse per Fabian above and Andy's already long experience. Andy is already active as a Wikimedia trainer, Wikimedian in residence. I have no reason to believe he wouldn't handle this app't just as well.(Littleolive oil (talk) 20:15, 18 March 2015 (UTC))
• Userrights granted to Pigsonthewing The criteria for getting the userrights are minimal competency with Wikipedia and endorsement from others. There is no system in place for balancing the implications of a block log, for example, so I am unable to judge pros and cons.

For people who feel strongly about this consider supporting a reform of the granting of these userrights. Some reforms that I might like to see are opening the education extension more so that others can use it, while also encouraging people who do off-wiki outreach to get off-wiki affiliation with any Wikimedia community group. Pigsonthewing is doing in-person outreach in the United Kingdom which cannot be monitored on-wiki. Since he speaks in person on behalf of the Wikimedia community, perhaps the Wikimedia chapter there (or any chapter anywhere in the world, really) might share in credit and responsibility for what he does in the name of the global community.

Responding to controversy is a bit beyond what the community at this board can manage.

An alternative proposal could be that anyone with unresolved objections not get the userright here, but further problems are that any administrator (and not just this board) can grant the userrights and right now it is just a legacy courtesy that userrights are requested here. I appreciate this user asking here so that there is a record of the request and community comments. Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:23, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Other feedback

A tour of ArbCom archives and current cases indicates probems in interacting with other users, and in communication style. I cannot endorse this application. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:23, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Concern about the very long Block Log, including recent blocks. — xaosflux ^Talk 01:02, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

• I've had quite a lot of interactions with User:Pigsonthewing over a very long time. They have made many valuable contributions to wikipedia, particularly in terms of WP:GLAM and WP:Authority Control; none of the contributions I'm aware of have been in the field of decorum. Having said that there's been a drop-off in blockage for edit-warring in the past couple of years. In short, I'm not sure that they're the person for front-line support and role-modelling. Stuartyeates (talk) 08:28, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Almost all of the drama surrounding Andy is related to infoboxes and templates, which is backside technical stuff, and frankly much of that drama is because anyone who disagrees with him immediately goes from zero to sixty themselves to attack him once they are aware of said issues. He is actually very good at dealing with new editors and instructing people out in the real world. He is already a Wikipedian in residence and has many people who can vouch for his abilities. Personally, I have had nothing but positive interactions with Andy, even when I have disagreed with him; he responds with respect when addressed with respect; I also think he shows remarkable restraint these days in the face of the baiting and trolling he endures, and it is worth noting that his infobox restrictions were recently loosened a bit. Montanabw^(talk) 20:30, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

• I like to work with Andy (User:Pigsonthewing) who taught me a lot. Old archives seem less relevant than a recent arbcom review which removed unreasonable restrictions. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:56, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

I've found him helpful when I've needed infobox assistance. I urge whoever evaluates this to consider the original poster's record, the sheer number of conflicts at ANI she has been involved in is something staggering. But don't believe me, look up her life & see. Grudge holding is not becoming.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:45, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

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Online Ambassador application: Mdann52

Mdann52

Mdann52 (talk · contribs)

1. Why do you want to be a Wikipedia Ambassador?

   I've been involved with helping users through various channels for a while - this seems like another opportunity to expand on that.

2. In three sentences or less, summarize your involvement with Wikimedia projects.

   My involvements with Wikimedia mainly involve helping out on the OTRS team, helping users on IRC, as well as general admin duties. While I am not much of a content creator, I tend to focus more on cleaning up existing articles to help comply with our policies and guidelines

3. Please indicate a few articles to which you have made significant content contributions. (e.g. DYK, GA, FA, major revisions/expansions/copyedits).

   I've done several of these, however I can not name many offhand. I have one GAN, Oblivion (roller coaster), although I have been more involved in the reviewing side of the DYK and GAN processes than the nominating side

4. How have you been involved with welcoming and helping new users on Wikipedia?

   Yes - both on-wiki, on IRC and via OTRS

5. What do you see as the most important ways we could welcome newcomers or help new users become active contributors?

   Provide more support to get them over the basics (ie. not just providing help, but developing tools, like VE, to help them), as well as offering ongoing support, and not being too harsh - at times, I think new editors are treated way too harshly by a number of members of the project

6. Have you had major conflicts with other editors? Blocks or bans? Involvement in arbitration? Feel free to offer context, if necessary.

   Not really. While I have appeared before ANI for a misunderstanding of policy before, which has since been clarified, I've been involved in no major disputes recently, and have a clean block log

7. How often do you edit Wikipedia and check in on ongoing discussions? Will you be available regularly for at least two hours per week, in your role as a mentor?

   On a daily basis, as work and education allow

8. How would you make sure your students were not violating copyright laws?

   This is one area I have experience in . There are a number of tools I use to check for copyright violations, and I would do random reviews of contributions if there appeared to be issues there.

9. If one of your students had an issue with copyright violation how would you resolve it?

   In the first case, I would try and explain to them they shouldn't use the work unless it complies with our policies, and make sure they rewrite it in their own words. If they continue doing it, then unfortunately, we may have to review whether their involvement is ideal for both Wikipedia's and their own benefits.

10. In your _own_ words describe what copyright violation is.

    Where another person's work is copied, identically or in spirit, without authorisation or exemption in law.

11. What else should we know about you that is relevant to being a Wikipedia Ambassador?

    I've thought about doing this for a while, I've only just got round to applying :)

Mdann52 (talk) 13:12, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Endorsements

(Two endorsements are needed for online ambassador approval.)

Endorse of course! --L235 (t / c / ping in reply) 16:17, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Endorse - (edit conflict) Experienced editor, clearly familiar with Wikipedia policies and procedures, who already spends a good amount of time helping new users and reviewing content. Seems to be capable and applying for the right reasons. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 16:31, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

• @Mdann52: an important comment about your answer to #9, though: talking to the student is good, but especially for something as serious as a WP:COPYVIO you'd want to go straight to the instructor, too. For any non-minor issue, really. Copyright might not have been sufficiently covered in class. He/she also might not understand how copyright applies to Wikipedia (let's hope this is very rare, but e.g. someone might think that because of the nature of a wiki, it's ok if a first draft includes copyright violations if you intend to clean them up as you go). It can help to let them know early on that, per the second part of your answer, it's possible students will be blocked from editing for copyright reasons. An instructor's warning to a student can also carry more weight than ours, as he/she controls the grades after all. [Disclosure: I also post to the ENB as Ryan (Wiki Ed), but my endorsement here is in a volunteer capacity only.] — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 16:31, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

• @Rhododendrites: of course - however, by talking to the student, you may well get an idea whether this has been covered by the instructor or not (of course, that would be one of the first points!), however I will bear that in mind. Mdann52 (talk) 13:13, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

• Mdann52 I granted the userrights. Post here if you need something more. Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:01, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

How do I turn off student enrollment?

A certain class has ended. It was hardly advertised on Wikipedia, yet for some reason new students continue to enroll months after the course has ended. I am trying to determine why this is happening but it seems that new-ish Wikipedians are enrolling.

Is there a way to turn off student enrollment in the currently-being-deprecated course interface system? Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:00, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

@Bluerasberry: Could you link me to the course in question? --Ryan (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:05, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Do you have a end date on the course? Once the course is ended, the enrollment option appears to go away. (See Template:Course link, for example. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:16, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Resolved

Ian is correct. Clicking "edit" brings up the dates for the course in a special interface. I changed the ending date to be last month, and now enrollment is disallowed. This is how one stops enrollment. Blue Rasberry (talk) 17:19, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Unresolved

I was hoping to have WP:eternal tracking for anyone who was ever in any course that I am watching, so that if people in a course continue to contribute after the course finishes, then that can be included as an outcome of the course. If I set the course end date to a certain point, does that mean that tracking thereafter ceases? Or is this not customary? How are course outcomes tracked now, and how will they be tracked with the new interface? It seems worth noting somehow if as a result of course participation, some of the students continue to contribute to Wikipedia.

I expect that by default, all tracking ends when the stated end of course date comes, right? Blue Rasberry (talk) 17:52, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Maybe this is something that the Dashboard can handle? @Sage (Wiki Ed): does the Dashboard continue tracking, or does it stop when the course ends? Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:10, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Bluerasberry: What I would suggest is to extend the course dates, but set (or change) the enrollment token. Then no one will be able to enroll without inputting that token. The dashboard currently stops tracking when the a course ends. We may eventually have some additional tracking of activity after the end of courses, but not at this point.--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:38, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, I see how that works now. Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:44, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Online Ambassador application: Kikichugirl

Kikichugirl

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Kikichugirl (talk · contribs)

1. Why do you want to be a Wikipedia Ambassador?

   I often help out students on #wikipedia-en-help ^connect, and many people who come there are requesting assistance with their non-Education Program assignment. As a college student myself, I fully understand the difficulty associated with being unable to do what a professor wants. Therefore, I believe that it would be useful for me to become an official online ambassador in order to contact these students' professors on their behalf. Additionally, I really enjoy helping people learn the ropes of Wikipedia editing, and students are no exception.

2. In three sentences or less, summarize your involvement with Wikimedia projects.

   I am most active on the English language Wikipedia in WP:WPAFC, and when I have time, I go on review marathons, so I have experience working with newbies. I also spend lots of time helping out in #wikipedia-en-help ^connect, answering newbies' questions, and the like, as mentioned above. Occasionally, I rate articles based on class, hang out with WP:SONGS and WP:ALBUMS, and fight vandalism.

3. Please indicate a few articles to which you have made significant content contributions. (e.g. DYK, GA, FA, major revisions/expansions/copyedits).

   My first article, A Tear in the Eye is a Wound in the Heart was the very first article I wrote. As a WikiGnome, I do many small edits across large spaces. Most of my content work is at AfC, having reviewed hundreds of articles, as well as cleaning them up at WP:NPP.

4. How have you been involved with welcoming and helping new users on Wikipedia?

   As previously mentioned above, I am active on IRC and AFC. You can see my AfC work here. Before I was involved at AFC, I was also a new page patroller. Additionally, my talk page is also an indicator of the extensive amount of newbies that I communicate with on a regular basis.

5. What do you see as the most important ways we could welcome newcomers or help new users become active contributors?

   It is often most difficult to discern the good-faith editors from the self-promoting possibly-bad-faith editors, but when helping newbies it is always best to be patient and kind, using laymen's terms and avoiding extensive jargon. For example, instead of "you need to verify your sources" I try to say "You need to prove that everything you say is true" so that we're not accidentally using alphabet soup or allowing policy creep to turn them away. When I believe that an editor is really only here to promote their company, I will tell them, "That probably won't work," saving them the trouble. Additionally, I find that providing links such as WP:CHEATSHEET, WP:REFBEGIN, WP:CIT, or links to WikiProjects of their choice make them less confused and more willing to stay. Sometimes, it may seem like everything that needs to be done has already been done, since some of the most widely-viewed articles are at GA or FA, so then I link them to WP:BACKLOG. Essentially, helping them navigate the site and the eons of pages we have in projectspace would be the way to go.

6. Have you had major conflicts with other editors? Blocks or bans? Involvement in arbitration? Feel free to offer context, if necessary.

   I have never been blocked or banned. I was once taken to ANI in December (for nominating an article at AFD), but the request was quickly closed as the editor who began the thread at ANI about me was also at ANI, and their actions should be discussed in one post. Most of my conflicts in editing have been with vandals or editors that were eventually sanctioned in some way for disruptive editing.

7. How often do you edit Wikipedia and check in on ongoing discussions? Will you be available regularly for at least two hours per week, in your role as a mentor?

   I try to edit Wikipedia as often as I can, when I am not busy in real life. Even when I'm not editing, I can usually be reached on IRC in the evenings, if not all day Pacific Time. Two hours does not seem like a lot of time for me. In the event that I would not be able to devote sufficient time to the project, I would relinquish my volunteership.

8. How would you make sure your students were not violating copyright laws?

   As students we tend to grow up hearing about plagiarism. Educating them on what is constituted copyright is key, especially in regards to images. Explaining copyright as related to plagiarism will probably prevent text-based copyright issues, but pointing out that all images are copyrighted unless otherwise stated - and directing them to WP:IUP or WP:FUR would be the way to go.

9. If one of your students had an issue with copyright violation how would you resolve it?

   If I found that a student was having issues with copyright violations, I would first attempt to bring it up with the student themselves. Many new editors are simply confused about Wikipedia's copyright policy and not intentionally attempting to infringe. If that did not resolve it, and the student blatantly insisted on retaining the copyright violation, then the next step would be to notify the professor. Sometimes the threat of grade demerits is all you need...

10. In your _own_ words describe what copyright violation is.

    Copyright violation is the copying of non-free content, usually from another website, onto Wikipedia without a compatible license, rationale for fair use, or permission to be licensed as CC-BY-SA from the original content creator. This includes images and text. It also includes claiming another's copyrighted work as your own, and then releasing it under a free license as "own work".

11. What else should we know about you that is relevant to being a Wikipedia Ambassador?

    I really enjoy working with others and would love to become an ambassador!

— kikichugirl ^oh hello! 03:35, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Endorsements

(Two endorsements are needed for online ambassador approval.)

• Endorse. Prolific, experienced, friendly editor. --L235 (t / c / ping in reply) 05:09, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
• Endorse - Experienced editor, clearly familiar with policy, active in several areas of the project, with an inclination for helping newbies. @Kikichugirl: I see you're a psychology student -- do you edit psychology articles much? The Education Program could definitely use more people familiar with WP:MEDRS, WP:MEDMOS, and general best practices for editing psych articles. (That's not a conditional endorsement, by the way -- just a particular way you may be able to help if you choose). — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 14:14, 3 April 2015 (UTC) (Note: I also edit on this noticeboard as User:Ryan (Wiki Ed), but this endorsement is in a volunteer capacity only.)

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New course announcement: ER190 (instructor: Julianfulton)

I'm pleased to announce a new course I've created with the Assignment Design Wizard, and I am requesting course instructor rights to get started. If you'd like to see more details about my course, check out my course draft linked in the section heading above.

@Helaine (Wiki Ed) and Ryan (Wiki Ed): --Julianfulton (talk) 04:16, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

@Julianfulton: Hi Julian. Everything looks good, so I've added the "course instructor" right to your account and created your course page using your Assignment Design Wizard output here: Template:Course link. I know we already exchanged several emails last week -- just responding on here, too, for good measure :) If you have any questions, feel free to email or leave a message at my user talk page. Thanks. --Ryan (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:20, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Amy Schalet, Not Under My Roof spamming

As seen with this, this, this, this and this, there appears to be a class of WP:Student editors adding content from a Amy Schalet Not Under My Roof book. There's also this and this edit concerning Amy Hasinoff. I attempted to query one of the editors about what class they are and why they keep adding Amy Schalet content, but I got no reply. This sandbox didn't reveal much either. Flyer22 (talk) 04:55, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

@Adam (Wiki Ed): I see that one of the editors was in Template:Course link, and other students Flyer22 references have edited about Illinois-related topics. Have you heard anything (you're listed in SF if not on the course page)? If not, I'll email the prof of that class to see if it might be an iteration of the same class. --Ryan (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:54, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

I hadn't heard anything about this. I'll take a look. Adam (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:24, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

@Ryan (Wiki Ed): It looks like there are three student editors from that course still active: Jmrase, Mhayashi95, and Ayoung40. I don't know if they have another class but it looks like GWS 202 from some sandbox edits. They may be in this class along with the students Flyer22 mentioned above. I don't see a course page for this semester, however. Adam (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:27, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Ryan (Wiki Ed) and Adam (Wiki Ed), this class doesn't appear to be well-organized at all. They just keep adding Amy Schalet, Not Under My Roof sources to articles, as recently as this and this edit, and other similar content. In some cases, the content is not appropriate for the article, or not appropriately added to the article; for example, this bit that I tweaked (followup edits here here and here) would be more appropriate as part of a Society and culture section; see Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Medicine-related articles#Sections. Flyer22 (talk) 18:56, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

There was also needed tweaking for the Slut-shaming article addition; see here, here and here. Flyer22 (talk) 19:02, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Campus Ambassador application: Archie0401

Archie0401 (talk · contribs)

1. Why do you want to be a Wikipedia Ambassador?

   Wikipedia is an exciting way to integrate information literacy into the curriculum. As a campus ambassador I hope to be in a position to support students and faculty in using Wikipedia in the classroom.

2. Where are you based, and which educational institution(s) do you plan to work with as a Campus Ambassador?

   I am a librarian at Sonoma State University in CA and at Santa Rosa Junior College in CA.

3. What is your academic and/or professional background?

   I am a research and instruction librarian. I teach Information Literacy both as a credit course and in workshops. I have a BA in Psychology, an MA in Humanities, and an MLIS (Master of Information Science).

4. In three sentences or less, summarize your prior experience with Wikimedia projects.

   Very little. However, I am learning quickly and am willing to complete trainings etc.

5. What else should we know about you that is relevant to being a Wikipedia Ambassador?

   I am new to Wikipedia, but am a quick learner. I have completed the Ambassador Training modules (as well as a few others). I will be hosting an edit-a-thon at the SSU campus in the near future. I think that being a campus ambassador could be a good fit for me, though I'm not sure if I'm too new to Wikipedia for that.

Thank you for considering my application. Archie0401 (talk) 23:34, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

New course announcement: Writing 2 - Spring 2015 (instructor: Pfancher)

I'm pleased to announce a new course I've created with the Assignment Design Wizard, and I am requesting course instructor rights to get started. If you'd like to see more details about my course, check out my course draft linked in the section heading above.

@Helaine (Wiki Ed) and Ryan (Wiki Ed): --Pfancher (talk) 23:25, 7 April 2015 (UTC)