Talk:Traditionalist conservatism

Caleb Stegall

Stegall is identified as an "evangelical Protestant," which is incorrect. (His background is the Scottish Presbyterian, Covenanter tradition.) It is also not a very meaningful term nor one Stegall would be likely to embrace or use based on his criticism of Evangelicals. (Google "Caleb Stegall Evangelical" and also "Caleb Stegall Covenanter.") This is probably indicative of the Gen-X neo-traditionalists not liking "the religious right" too much and tending to see Evangelicals as either part of it or a failed middle path between fundamentalism and liberalism. In Stegall's view evangelicalism generally comes out as liberalism, due to it's "whiggish" tendencies. (http://www.touchstonemag.com/archives/article.php?id=21-07-013-v) 67.22.206.238 (talk) 15:22, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Early 19th Century through late 19th Century

John Randolph of Roanoke should be mentioned in this section, he was very much the Traditionalist conservative and presents a counterpoint to the more centralist and nationalist Whigs.122.106.255.15 (talk) 23:31, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Merge with Paleoconservatism

The distinction between this and paleoconservatism isn't quite clear. Are they so distinct as to warrant seperate pages?Atripodi (talk) 08:22, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes. I think the best way of looking at is this: traditionalist conservatism is a philosophy and outlook on the world. Paleoconservatism, on the other hand, is one possible political manifestation of a traditionalist conservatism. Furthermore, I don't think it would be all that out of place to recognize that some paleoconservatives would not fit in with the traditionalist philosophy. That is, they arrive at the paleoconservative political position by route of other philosophies.

This is nicely argued in the 'Traditionalist conservatism and paleoconservatism' section of this article.

Since no one has really discussed the merger in over a year, would it be out of line to remove the merger tag? --patton1138 (talk) 21:34, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Let's find out i.e. I removed it.--T. Anthony (talk) 10:33, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

They are in fact different. "Traditional conservative" was a term used by modern American conservatives to refer to the type of conservatism known in the UK. Viereck and Kirk believed that there was a conservative tradition in America, but their theory has been vigorously challenged by Thomas Harz, Auerbach and Frank S. Meyer and others. Suggest that this article is amended to reflect that with sources of course. The Four Deuces (talk) 18:17, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Contemporary Traditionalist section

Is it really necessary to have a section comprising mainly of a list, in the form of a massive (aka: unhelpful) paragraph, about every traditionalist conservative scholar in American academia? Really? Why not make an actual list? Or boil it down to a few notable ones. Or better yet, provide a link to a page called "Contemporary traditionalist conservative scholars" that has this data on it.

Just a thought. 79.146.140.241 (talk) 19:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

This section, along with much of the rest of the article, would benefit by inclusion of quotations illustrating some of the cited traditionalists' views. As is, a good deal of the article reads simply as a list of individual's names and publications, and less as an account of actual traditionalist views and positions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.83.97.213 (talk) 18:04, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Change title to "Classical Conservatism"

It would seem that the philosophy of which this article speaks goes by several names -- amongst these are Classical Conservatism, Burkean Conservatism and Traditionalist Conservatism.

It would seem, however, that to refer to Classical Conservatism or Classic Conservatism, or conservatism in the classical tradition would be be more dominant term used.

Thus I would question whether traditionalist conservastism would be the best title for the article.