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::Another famous example, Moses. Moses was a stutter, which has been tied to being dumb (even today, people make the mistake in equating stuttering with stupidity.) When God called upon Moses, his first reaction was, "Not me, take my brother, he can speak like the angles." God said no, and Moses was able to speak clearly.---'''[[User:Balloonman|<font color="purple">Balloonman</font>]]''' ''[[User talk:Balloonman|<b><sup><small>NO! I'm Spartacus!</small></sup></b>]]'' 20:23, 8 September 2009 (UTC) |
::Another famous example, Moses. Moses was a stutter, which has been tied to being dumb (even today, people make the mistake in equating stuttering with stupidity.) When God called upon Moses, his first reaction was, "Not me, take my brother, he can speak like the angles." God said no, and Moses was able to speak clearly.---'''[[User:Balloonman|<font color="purple">Balloonman</font>]]''' ''[[User talk:Balloonman|<b><sup><small>NO! I'm Spartacus!</small></sup></b>]]'' 20:23, 8 September 2009 (UTC) |
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::A third example, and this is more from tradition and strongest in evangelical circles, but the notion of the Bible being written directly by God, thus being infallable. There is a strong tradition that when the original authors wrote the various passages of the Bible, that they were not the one who was writing them, but rather that God was speaking through them---thus providing the additional brain power required. Similarly, ministers often make similar claims about God speaking through them (or somebody else)... thus, again receiving additional "brainpower."---'''[[User:Balloonman|<font color="purple">Balloonman</font>]]''' ''[[User talk:Balloonman|<b><sup><small>NO! I'm Spartacus!</small></sup></b>]]'' 20:28, 8 September 2009 (UTC) |
::A third example, and this is more from tradition and strongest in evangelical circles, but the notion of the Bible being written directly by God, thus being infallable. There is a strong tradition that when the original authors wrote the various passages of the Bible, that they were not the one who was writing them, but rather that God was speaking through them---thus providing the additional brain power required. Similarly, ministers often make similar claims about God speaking through them (or somebody else)... thus, again receiving additional "brainpower."---'''[[User:Balloonman|<font color="purple">Balloonman</font>]]''' ''[[User talk:Balloonman|<b><sup><small>NO! I'm Spartacus!</small></sup></b>]]'' 20:28, 8 September 2009 (UTC) |
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Oh no, what I have brought forth? :P Seriously, I just made a very light joke to cheer up TPH following his bitter RfA bruising. Don’t take it as anything deep or profound – I am not here to offer words of wisdom. :) [[User:Pastor Theo|Pastor Theo]] ([[User talk:Pastor Theo#top|talk]]) 20:38, 8 September 2009 (UTC) |
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Deletion of Walls & Futures page
Pastor,
Can you explain why you have deleted my Wiki insertion regarding Walls & Futures.
While there weas a mistake in me creating two pages, it was down to not being familair with Wiki. I believe my insertion is just as valid as the other companies listed.
Look forward to your response.
Joe —Preceding unsigned comment added by WandF (talk • contribs) 16:18, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
- Well, Joe, Wikipedia is not a forum for the promotion and marketing of products, services and merchandise. Your article was not encyclopedic -- it was closer to spam, hence its removal. And since your activities here were devoted solely to spamming and promoting your company (including the account name WandF), you have been blocked. Sorry, Joe, but you need to familiarize yourself with Wikipedia's policies and assure us there will be no further spamming before you can continue here. Pastor Theo (talk) 19:45, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
what have you blocked me from editing the Ty Cobb page I am merely correcting errors....thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tycobb1000 (talk • contribs) 02:36, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
- My block already expired -- that was from the 26th. Pastor Theo (talk) 19:36, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
Haven't forgotten about you
We will come back to the interview soon, I am busy making this tool:
Ikip (talk) 04:56, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
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DYK for Alice of Wonderland in Paris
NW (Talk) 23:14, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
- Very nice! Alice and I thank you! Pastor Theo (talk) 23:42, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Quick question
Can I use this image in a userbox? It's licensed as CCA 2.0. I'm pretty sure there wouldn't be a problem, but wanted to check first. Thanks again, Javért | Talk 23:45, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, this is not my area of expertise -- I am a ninny when it comes to image questions. I would respectfully request that you ask another admin. Pastor Theo (talk) 23:47, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, okay. Thanks anyway. :) Congrats on the new DYK, btw. Regards, Javért | Talk 23:49, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Oh, that is a funny movie. We showed that in our church school -- the kids hated it, LOL! -- and I was curious about its history. Pastor Theo (talk) 23:50, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
- My only DYK is from an article I wrote on a Jonathan Edwards sermon, so it is funny the things that attract our attention. :) Also, in reference to the image, PeterSymonds says you can. Regards, Javért | Talk 00:03, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Barnstar
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar | ||
I thought you deserved this for your lovely comments at RFA and the various places around the wiki! AtheWeatherman 12:33, 2 September 2009 (UTC) |
- That is very, very kind of you. Thank you for this thoughtful gesture. Pastor Theo (talk) 12:45, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
HyperOffice Entry
Hi Pastor,
Some changes have been made to the HyperOffice entry since last time I contacted you (our conversations are in your archive 1). You recommended changes to the products section, but that section was created after looking at other companies in the space, which have a similar tone - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebEx, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoho. Do you think it still needs to be changed? Please consider removing your flags after the recent changes. Pankajunk (talk) 14:12, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
- Hello, it is good to hear from you again! Yes, the rewrite is great -- I removed the tags and linked the article to WikiProject Internet via its Talk Page. Thank you for thinking of me, and please stay in touch. Pastor Theo (talk) 15:34, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Discussion at Dendodge's RFA
Hi there. I think our discussion there has gone far off-topic by now, so I decided to contact you here. Please re-read my original !vote again, I fear you might have mixed it up with comments by other people. I do not consider Dendodge immature, nor have I said so or would this be a reason for opposing. My comments were on the fact that Dendodge has shown some unfortunate misunderstandings of deletion policy which he has admitted, e.g. that A7 is not a notability criterion and that he made a mistake when tagging the article I criticized because he did not review the history. His response was indeed mature and well-behaved and parts of me would hate to see him fail.
Your comments unfortunately, if I may say so, have not been very helpful. I had merely pointed out a possible bad-faith interpretation of his actions (violating WP:ADMINSHOP which includes re-tagging after a decline) and you have defended him against it even after he had gone on record saying that this was not the case. As such, you have attacked a straw man and phrased it in a way that sounded as if you accused me of !voting for selfish reasons. I do not care if you intended to accuse me in such a way or not (although I hope you didn't) but I would like to ask you to hold yourself back from further commenting in this RFA. Although probably unintended, you might influence (and might have influenced) people who are (and maybe were) reconsidering their !votes to Dendodge's disadvantage if they read comments they might perceive as overly aggressive.
Again, if you think I am acting selfish or for the wrong reasons, I am very much open to discuss the issue. But there is no need to do it at that RFA, is there? Regards SoWhy 15:17, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
- Hello. I am sorry, but I am not interested in prolonging this discussion. Pastor Theo (talk) 15:34, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
- The choice is yours to make of course. I just wanted to offer it. Have a nice day nonetheless. Regards SoWhy 16:04, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
- I am having a nice day. I hope yours is nice, too. :) Pastor Theo (talk) 16:09, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
If you have some time please provide us with an input at this RFC on 2008 Summer Olympics torch relay article and this Merger Contest. Thank You! --HappyInGeneral (talk) 23:50, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you, but I will pass on this one. Pastor Theo (talk) 23:55, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Interview
First peek: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Article_Rescue_Squadron/Newsletter/20091001/Interview Ikip (talk) 23:39, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
- Very nice! I feel like a star! :) Pastor Theo (talk) 00:23, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Hello
- Hello could you help me in this article? Albanian nationalism 1.One to put it in some order and 2.two to stop people from vandalizing it.Thankou.Megistias (talk) 12:49, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
- Hello! If there are problems regarding vandalism, please contact WP:RFPP or WP:AIV, depending on the severity of the havoc. As for bringing order, this is not a subject where I can offer the slightest trace of expertise. Sorry to disappoint. Pastor Theo (talk) 22:15, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Happy Labor Day!
Dear colleague, I just want to wish you a happy, hopefully, extended holiday weekend and nice end to summer! Your friend, --A NobodyMy talk 04:15, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you, that is so nice of you! I hope you had a nice holiday, too. Pastor Theo (talk) 22:15, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
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Many thanks, Roger Davies talk 04:24, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Not salt
Not salt, I wanted to alleviate any feelings of alienation that TPH was feeling: he apparently thought that people 'hated' him [1]. I don't hate anyone, let alone on Wikipedia. And I am always open to changing my position if I am presented with an indication that I am wrong or the user has changed. However, in my prior attempts to have TPH be a little more distinguishing in his R/MFD noms, I had been unsuccessful. So, a firm oppose, but had he indicated he realized where some of his noms in the past had been problematic, I most definitely would have softened towards neutral (support less likely, but it's not outside the realm of possibility). However, his response was less than satisfactory. Anyhow, I respect your opinion and wanted to explain this and thank you for your comments. –xenotalk 16:42, 8 September 2009 (UTC) (Looking at it again "I think you're a poor judge..." was probably a little salty and I probably could've been sweeter there)
- Thank you for stopping by. I hope this RfB experience has not been stressful for you. And I really shouldn't use salt-based analogies. I recall one of our church school lessons when a precocious child, upon learning the fate of Lot's wife, asked if Lot put her in a salt shaker and later sprinkled her on his dinner. Peace be with you. Pastor Theo (talk) 17:00, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- Not at all. I put myself up because I have a lot of spare time that I can use to push buttons at CHU and BRFA. But I realize the main part of the job is closing RFAs and that's what people focus on. Really and truly, those two former tasks should be split off from the 'crat toolset. I don't really have a desire to close RFAs, but I would in times of need (like when one goes six hours overdue =). Thanks again for trying to keep my RfB focused. –xenotalk 17:07, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- I don't how successful I have been, given that some people are taking their UFC fight into my !vote and someone else compared you to a well-trained gibbon. This really isn't quite what I envisioned when I joined Wikipedia. :) Pastor Theo (talk) 17:11, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
your recent point
There is a point I sometimes make in regard to faith-based miracle healing: there are endless recorded testimonies of the blind receiving sight and the lame receiving mobility, but there is no recorded testimony of the stupid receiving brainpower.
Where are these "endless recorded testimonies" of faith-based miracle healing?
Isn't "the stupid receiving brainpower" (e.g. an alcoholic choosing to sober up, or a Wikipedia vandal reforming into a valuable user) a far more common occurence?
I don't have any intention of starting any kind of debate, I'm just not sure I understood your point. Keepscases (talk) 18:12, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- The history of approving the elevation of the pious to sainthood is based on the confirmation of faith-based healing (the attribution of miracles via prayers to the saints-in-waiting). I don't think of alcoholics as "stupid" -- I host AA meetings and the people in attendance are anything but stupid. Thank you and be well. Pastor Theo (talk) 18:47, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- PT, while technically correct, I do have to challenge your comment that there is "no recorded testimony of the stupid receiving brainpower." Religious writings, of virtually every culture, have preserved stories of just that happening. They may not use the same language that you are using here, but the stories do exist. Take the story of St Paul, who was Saul, as an example. Prior to the road to Tarsus, he was deemed to be ignorant of God's grace, but a miracle showed him the light and he became one of the strongest advocates for early Christianity the world knows. Many conversion stories embody the notion that the person "Saw the light" or became wise. Similar stories exist throughout not only the Gospel narratives, but non-Christian traditions as well. Furthmore, the language is often more obscure. Miracles of people who were deaf were often synonymous with being dumb.---Balloonman NO! I'm Spartacus! 20:14, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- Another famous example, Moses. Moses was a stutter, which has been tied to being dumb (even today, people make the mistake in equating stuttering with stupidity.) When God called upon Moses, his first reaction was, "Not me, take my brother, he can speak like the angles." God said no, and Moses was able to speak clearly.---Balloonman NO! I'm Spartacus! 20:23, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- A third example, and this is more from tradition and strongest in evangelical circles, but the notion of the Bible being written directly by God, thus being infallable. There is a strong tradition that when the original authors wrote the various passages of the Bible, that they were not the one who was writing them, but rather that God was speaking through them---thus providing the additional brain power required. Similarly, ministers often make similar claims about God speaking through them (or somebody else)... thus, again receiving additional "brainpower."---Balloonman NO! I'm Spartacus! 20:28, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Oh no, what I have brought forth? :P Seriously, I just made a very light joke to cheer up TPH following his bitter RfA bruising. Don’t take it as anything deep or profound – I am not here to offer words of wisdom. :) Pastor Theo (talk) 20:38, 8 September 2009 (UTC)