Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Gregory Clegg

Gregory Clegg

Gregory Clegg (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

Populated account categories: confirmed

For archived investigations, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Gregory Clegg/Archive.

Report date May 14 2009, 05:01 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets

• DunkinDonutBoy (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
• {{Dknight192}}
• Huboi (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

Evidence submitted by Cunard

DunkinDonutBoy has votestacked at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Delboy (musician). This is the same pattern as the votestacking done by Gregory Clegg and Melchiord at the same AfD. Both Gregory Clegg and Melchiord have been blocked for sockpuppetry. DDB and Dknight192 have both been edit warring on List of Disney Channel Series. Cunard (talk) 05:01, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

• Per the comments below and per my own research, Dknight192 (talk · contribs) is definitely not a sock, so I've struck out their username from the suspected sockpuppets list. Cunard (talk) 06:02, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

• See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Cunard for more relevant context to this case. Cunard (talk) 05:53, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Evidence Submitted by Unionhawk

Huboi (talk · contribs) looks most like a sock with this diff; It's like he wanted to re-validate Melchiord's point by un-striking it. this !vote matches up with Melchiord and Gregory Clegg's !voting pattern.--Unionhawk ^{Talk E-mail} 02:53, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.

Why does anyone who votes to keep an article have to be Gregory Clegg?

Cunard you said the burden of proof is on the accuser? Why am I being accused just because I agree with people who want to keep articles? Please remove this libelous and unfounded accusation.--DunkinDonutBoy (talk) 05:10, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Hey, This is Dknight192 and I'm confused I'm new to Wikpedia and have just made a few edits and felt that one of them being deleted was wrong when the article was correct. However, I respect NrDg for deleting the article because he felt it was nessassary and thats fine. I do not believe it is nessarssay to bring it this far (although I do not know what a Sockpuppetry is so please will someone inform me) I'm really sorry if I've done anything bad I really didnjt know I did. Thankyou in advance Dknight192 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dknight192 (talk • contribs) 01:16, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Comments by other users

• It's not that you want to keep them, it's that you make the exact same arguements as Gregory Clegg, and your only 61 contributions status doesn't help your cause.--Unionhawk ^{Talk E-mail} 11:55, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

  Careful, Unionhawk. We don't want to instruct people to sock more effectively. – Quadell ^(talk) 12:35, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

  Good point... Technically, if he read WP:SOCK, he could get just that information.--Unionhawk ^{Talk E-mail} 12:46, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

• It is unlikely that Dknight192 (talk · contribs) is a sockpuppet. The edit patterns, article focus and behavior are strongly indicative of a new user. --NrDg 14:42, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

• It is likely that Huboi (talk · contribs) is a sock. Only edits were to the deletion discussion and this [1] modification to a comment by confirmed sock of Gregory Clegg (talk · contribs), Melchiord (talk · contribs). Also similar patterns of writing. --NrDg 16:49, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

• It is likely that DunkinDonutBoy (talk · contribs) is a sock. In addition to above note [2] and [3] for similarities of behavior and belief. --NrDg 17:02, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

• 216.66.226.156 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) looks to be a random IP reader of the article List of soft rock musicians who chose to comment at the AfD discussion linked to on the article page. IMO not an IPsock. --NrDg 17:06, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

• Dknight192 (talk · contribs) does have the contribution pattern of a newbie, unlike DunkinDonutBoy (talk · contribs), who essentially went straight to AfD. Dknight, on the other hand, started with disney channel stuff, asked for not-deletion on his talk page, but never voted in an AfD discussion. I removed 216.66.226.156 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) from the sock list, since I basically accused him for saying "Keep per above," which I did a lot myself.--Unionhawk ^{Talk E-mail} 18:38, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

• I would just keep an eye on Huboi (talk · contribs). His only edits being editing comments of confirmed socks make him suspicious, but sock or no, he was at least in violation of WP:NOTYOURS for editing comments that were (provided he's not a sock) not his.--Unionhawk ^{Talk E-mail} 22:53, 14 May 2009 (UTC) See evidence above--Unionhawk ^{Talk E-mail} 02:56, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

• Actually, thinking about it, Huboi (talk · contribs) has not made any defense at all, unlike DunkinDonutBoy and Melchiord did. If his edits become disruptive, you can always block him for another reason, but they aren't, as of yet, disruptive nor charactiristic of Gregory Clegg.--Unionhawk ^{Talk E-mail} 23:00, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

CheckUser requests

Checkuser request – code letter: E  + C (Community ban/sanction evasion and vote stacking affecting outcome)

Current status – Completed: Reviewed by a Checkuser, results and comments are below.    Requested by Cunard (talk) 05:01, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

•  Clerk endorsed - Evidence to suggest possible sockpuppetry and vote stacking. Tiptoety ^talk 06:05, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
•  Note: RFCU on concerns about Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Delboy (musician) alone is not possible: the vote is still ongoing. For now I am not convinced these might be the same user (I see no contribution overlap nor vote stacking).  Declined, unless further evidence is presented. -- Luk ^talk 08:14, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
•  Note: Only checked DunkinDonutBoy for he is blocked as a sockpuppet already. -- Luk ^talk 17:53, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
  •  Confirmed that DunkinDonutBoy (talk · contribs) == Gregory Clegg (talk · contribs) == Melchiord (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki).
  • It is  Possible that Huboi (talk · contribs) is related to the above (different ISP).
  • I have no reason to believe the IP is anything else than someone passing by and commenting in the discussion.

Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

 Question: Any comment about Huboi, Dknight192, and 216.66.226.156 ? Icestorm815 • Talk 04:37, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Luk has indicated off-wiki that this case is still  In progress. Tiptoety ^talk 04:44, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

 Completed -- Luk ^talk 12:40, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Conclusions

This case has been marked as closed. It will be archived after its final review by a Clerk or Checkuser.

• Accounts blocked and tagged (with the exception of Huboi). Nathan ^{T (formerly Avruch)} 15:59, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

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