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::The budget for next year is [[wmf:Planned Spending Distribution 2008-2009|here]]. Editors are volunteers. [[User:Puchiko|Puchiko]] ([[User Talk:Puchiko|Talk]]-[[Special:Emailuser/Puchiko|email]]) 21:59, 3 January 2009 (UTC) |
::The budget for next year is [[wmf:Planned Spending Distribution 2008-2009|here]]. Editors are volunteers. [[User:Puchiko|Puchiko]] ([[User Talk:Puchiko|Talk]]-[[Special:Emailuser/Puchiko|email]]) 21:59, 3 January 2009 (UTC) |
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Please take a shit sir. [[Special:Contributions/72.183.9.129|72.183.9.129]] ([[User talk:72.183.9.129|talk]]) 19:45, 4 January 2009 (UTC) |
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== RTFM == |
== RTFM == |
Revision as of 19:45, 4 January 2009
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General discussion
Podcast
Hey, does Wikipedia have a podcast? Pirakafreak24 ( Leave a Message ) I can sing! Ha!. 02:59, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
- Please see the note at the top, this is not related to the Main Page and doesn't really belong here. To answer your question yes, see Wikipedia:Community portal for the Wikipedia Weekly and WikiVoices. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 03:16, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry. I thought it since it was related to wikipedia... well, since we're on the subject, is it on iTunes? Pirakafreak24 ( Leave a Message ) I can sing! Ha!. 18:36, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Telugu wikipedia entry in statistics is missing
Telugu is not listed though it has over 40000 entries in wikipedia statistics Arjunaraoc (talk) 17:35, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
- As explained in the FAQ, only Wikipedias of depth at least 5 are listed. Telugu has depth 4. Algebraist 17:37, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Main page designers
I'm looking for someone who knows how to design and create main pages like this one. We need someone like this very badly at the Anglo-Saxon Wiki. If you could make yourself known here or volunteer others, that would be great. We'd love to work with you to make a great main page. Wrad (talk) 04:49, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- I could help you, if you would make Touch the Clouds a featured article. 217.121.99.245 (talk) 15:31, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- A lot of people who fancy themselves as main page designers have offered alternatives over at Wikipedia:2008 main page redesign proposal. I suspect you would be able to find some people to help you out there. J Milburn (talk) 15:58, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
I suggest putting some photos about what's happening in Gaza Palestine in the News section...it is almost a genocyde out there and the international community still silent..I think some people fear antisemitic attacks by Jews:shame on me if i'm one of them! for the photos just google gaza in image search, if this is not helpfull here is a meaningfull one: src gaza--Benhamadi.adel (talk) 17:28, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- As the above notice says, this is NOT the place to propose additions to T:ITN. Try WP:ITN/C instead. Also we need free content images for wikipedia. It is unlikely those you find are Nil Einne (talk) 04:33, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
$6 000 000 Investment
By having this large amount of donations, what could we expect as new features here in Wikipedia? Any new additions or improvements? --Boky (talk) 11:40, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, a number of changes and improvements. See the donations page at the Foundation website for frequently asked questions. There may be a local page somewhere but I've not found it. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 11:48, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- This has nothing to do with the main page. Be that as it may, bear in mind the WMF obviously needs a certain amount to maintain wikipedia as it is now, particularly with its ever increasing popularity. Also the dontation bar itself links to [1] Nil Einne (talk) 08:21, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
grammar at the top of DYK seems less than perfect
"that Prosecco, an Italian sparkling wine increasingly popular internationally, is believed to have been already made in Ancient Roman times?"- I don't think we say 'been already made.' I suggest "is believed to have also been produced in Ancient Roman times?" or something. Sticky Parkin 13:57, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- See #Main Page error reports above. --74.13.129.148 (talk) 14:02, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Date of News Headlines
When I read the headlines in In the news, I often wonder when the events occurred. Does the headline represent old news or new news? I suggest that each headline have a date after it, something like this:
- Slovakia adopts the euro, replacing the koruna, and becomes the 16th member of the eurozone. –Jan. 1, 2009
--Christopher King (talk) 17:01, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- The issue of adding dates has been made a few times. The most recent discussion is archived on Template talk:In the news/Archive 24#Dates on news items. The argument for not including dates is basically the original main purpose of that section: It mentions and links to entries of timely interest — that is, encyclopedia articles that have been updated to reflect ongoing important current events — rather than conventional news items or a conventional news service or ticker. Cheers. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 17:08, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Congrats Wikipedia!
Nice job getting $6 million dollars. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.189.224.229 (talk) 01:37, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks are due to the donating public, but thanks! :) Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 02:07, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- Weren't there a people claiming it was never going to happen a few weeks ago? Edit: Thought so Talk:Main Page/Archive 130#donations. Happens every year (along with the barrage of complaints when it first goes up). I myself thought they're never going to make it a few years back but they did. Still this has nothing to do with the main page... Nil Einne (talk) 08:29, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- Can't we have the thing removed from the main page (and every other page) now that they raised the $6M? I think what you have to remember (in regards to the money coming so quickly) is that a very small number of individuals contribute a vast majority of the cash. Last year 18 donors gave over $3 million dollars, or about half the total operating cost of all wikifoundation. The top 6 donors must have given about $2.5 million dollars. It is kind of scary that wikifoundation depends on so few people (they have already budgeted to spend $7 million), and its possible that in coming years the amount donated will fluctuate wildly depending on if these high level donators come or go etc. Personally its a bit of a joke that only about 40% of the money donated is spent on the hardware/software/internet and tech staff. The other 60% is spent on 'Finanace and Admin','Office of the executive','Legal costs' and various other things that aren't really required. It some ways its good because it shows that wikipedia could probably be funded for as little as $2 million if times did actually get tough. Infact wikipedia (or a spin off) could probably exist in the same capacity with a budget of less than $800k if volenteers are used instead of paid technical staff/sysadmins and the executive/admin beucracy was eliminated in favour of the the non-paid board of directors having more direct control. In other words wikifoundation is in fine shape to survive for a long time.--58.108.249.97 (talk) 09:04, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- Finance and admin (bookkeeping) is very important for transparency and to keep our charitable status in shape. Legal costs are also very important, to maintain our licensing and trademarks, and ensure we don't get sued by some nut who has seen his content here but hasn't even got a clue what the website is about and goes into litigation mode. Agreed, those departments would probably be able to cut down on funding a bit, but they can't be eliminated. It is already explained in the donation FAQ that if not enough money is raised, the first things to go will be travel expenses, international meetings, and the more extravagant bits of Wikimania. —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 10:42, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- I guess this is going to come as a total shock to you, but likely one of the reasons the WMF gets so much money is because they spend all that money. Yes advertising wikipedia, protecting us from violating copyrights, overall making us less seedy (yes what people think of us does matter contrary to popular opinion), asking people with a lot of money to donate etc actually helps to make people want to support us. Another shock to you I guess, randomly handing out money to someone to go buy a server, bandwidth isn't actually a good idea most of the time. It's actually a good idea to plan such things and shop around for the best price etc even if it cost money doing so. One final shock, 45% of 6 million is 2.7 million. I understand that percentages and maths can be very difficult even with availability of calculators in most OSes and online but fortunately you don't need one since there is also [2]. BTW more detail about precisely what is covered in each department is available here [3]. You may consider auditing, office rent and bank fees superflorous but I'm not so sure others do. Nil Einne (talk) 12:17, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- Incidentally, if you look at the report for 2007-2008 [4] you'd see $2,239,524 of spending was spent on projects, $1,076,371 on general and administrative and $224,829 on fundraising. In other words 63% was spent on the WMFs projects. While this is an estimate, it's an estimate audited by a professional accounting firm so is likely to be resonably accurate. Since the WMF is a not-for-profit bound by US law, if you have evidence that this figure is substanially incorrect you could likely file a complaint with some US law agency (the FBI? IRS?). Nil Einne (talk) 12:07, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- P.S. Contrary to the apparent suggestion above, it appears the primary reason for the surge was due to smaller contributions not sudden large contributions [5]. While I know we do have large contributions I haven't heard of any recently and note when the message was posted about us not meeting the target we had IIRC $3 million which I presume already include many large contributions Nil Einne (talk) 15:15, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- Incidentally, if you look at the report for 2007-2008 [4] you'd see $2,239,524 of spending was spent on projects, $1,076,371 on general and administrative and $224,829 on fundraising. In other words 63% was spent on the WMFs projects. While this is an estimate, it's an estimate audited by a professional accounting firm so is likely to be resonably accurate. Since the WMF is a not-for-profit bound by US law, if you have evidence that this figure is substanially incorrect you could likely file a complaint with some US law agency (the FBI? IRS?). Nil Einne (talk) 12:07, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- Can't we have the thing removed from the main page (and every other page) now that they raised the $6M? I think what you have to remember (in regards to the money coming so quickly) is that a very small number of individuals contribute a vast majority of the cash. Last year 18 donors gave over $3 million dollars, or about half the total operating cost of all wikifoundation. The top 6 donors must have given about $2.5 million dollars. It is kind of scary that wikifoundation depends on so few people (they have already budgeted to spend $7 million), and its possible that in coming years the amount donated will fluctuate wildly depending on if these high level donators come or go etc. Personally its a bit of a joke that only about 40% of the money donated is spent on the hardware/software/internet and tech staff. The other 60% is spent on 'Finanace and Admin','Office of the executive','Legal costs' and various other things that aren't really required. It some ways its good because it shows that wikipedia could probably be funded for as little as $2 million if times did actually get tough. Infact wikipedia (or a spin off) could probably exist in the same capacity with a budget of less than $800k if volenteers are used instead of paid technical staff/sysadmins and the executive/admin beucracy was eliminated in favour of the the non-paid board of directors having more direct control. In other words wikifoundation is in fine shape to survive for a long time.--58.108.249.97 (talk) 09:04, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- So now you've got 6 million $, how is wikipedia going to spend this money? Is mister Wales going to get a new car or do all editors with more then two FA articles get a bonus? Great Gall (talk) 16:11, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- The budget for next year is here. Editors are volunteers. Puchiko (Talk-email) 21:59, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Please take a shit sir. 72.183.9.129 (talk) 19:45, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
RTFM
WHAT DOES RTFM MEANS? Asterix and obelix are back (talk) 08:36, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- Firstly, this question is not related to the main page, and belongs at the Reference Desk. Secondly, please do not type in all capital letters, it is often considered rude. In answer to your question, we have an article about RTFM which will give you your answer. Raven4x4x (talk) 10:54, 4 January 2009 (UTC)