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Air O'Smith

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Article for "Air Guitar" band that played their first gig on Saturday. Article creator claims notability of band members. Bringing to AfD for more thorough debate. Improbcat 17:12, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

• Keep The band has been formed by Gabi Matzeu, two times UK Air Guitar Champion, and competitor in the World championships. Gabi Matzeu (The Hoxton Creeper) and Charlotte Watkins (A Boy Named Sue), both members of Air O'Smith, are quoted in this Sunday Times article: Air guitar comes out of the bedroom. Gabi is also talked about and quoted in The New York Times [1], Guardian Unlimited [2], and here [3], and The London Paper [4]. This is the UK's, and possibly the world's, FIRST EVER %100 real air-guitar band, and as such, is worth a Wikipedia article, despite it's relative youth, which I admit is the main problem for the criteria of notability at the moment. Orgone 17:19, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

• Keep for now - independent coverage seems reliable and relevant. Revisit in a year if necessary.--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 17:41, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
  • There is no independent coverage of this "band". Crazysuit 18:22, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
    • That is not true, see here [5] Orgone 02:55, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. A couple of people got namechecked in a Sunday Times article so that makes their "band" notable? You've got to be kidding. This is the New York Times "coverage" of Gabi Matzeu: the British contestant, Gabi Matzeu, put it, “A lot of people say: ‘You loser. Go and get a real guitar.’ ” There is no coverage at all of this group, searching "Air O'Smith" + "Air Guitar" shows the lack of notability. Crazysuit 18:22, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
• Delete given the fact that they formed two days ago (!) and have only played a couple of small bars, this wouldn't be a notable band (nor would it pass WP:MUSIC even if they did actually play real instruments. Which they don't. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 18:40, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Koko (venue) is not just a small bar, it's a rather large venue. Orgone 02:58, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
• Comment Independent coverage for Matzeu is there, hence shouldn't his "band" also be notable?--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 18:57, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Not everything that is mentioned in a newspaper is notable. Zetawoof_(ζ) 19:03, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Generally, no. Firstly, I don't think Matzeu is notable, but that's not what's being discussed here. Even if this were a supergroup of the 5 most notable musicians in the world, it still wouldn't be possible to have an encyclopedia article until the band itself has independant reliable sources and passes WP:MUSIC. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 19:10, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
    • You don't think Matzeu is notable because you are a cultural snob. He is a national champion in his chosen activity and has been talked about in many internationally reputable news sources, what more do you want?Orgone 02:55, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
• Delete I take the opposite view to User:SarekOfVulcan; if this group ever becomes notable, we'll include them, but a less-than-one-week-old air guitar band doesn't need an article until they have a few more gigs under their belt. Brianyoumans 21:46, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. per Starblind and Brianyoumans. The band is just too young to be included in Wikipedia. Perhaps the article will be re-created a year from now once they have more independent coverage.--Lenticel ^(talk) 23:29, 29 October 2007 (UTC)