User talk:Ian13

Ian13 is busy at present. Whilst he will reply to talk page requests and will edit occasionally, he is not available for long-term involvement in projects.

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MedCabal

Hi, we have a heavy backload of cases at WP:MEDCAB and since you are on the mediator list I thought I would request your help. Thanks! --Ideogram 10:52, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Userbox version

This is a userbox version of the barnstar that I previously gave you. Use if you wish : ) - jc37 10:06, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

The Original Barnstar - For being the first to be helpful as explictily requested, I award you a Helpful Barnstar : ) - Jc37 15:45, 3 September 2006

-Thanks :) Ian¹³/t 21:42, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Title Paragraph

Hi, I would like to write up a new article as wikipedia:titleparagraphs. I'd appreciate your assistance. Title paragraphs often called 'opening' paragraphs in the literary world are very important to seize readers’ attention and encourage them to read on. Title paragraphcs need to be written in a surmising style in as few concise but detailed sentences as possible.

Notice the difference between this article and this one. A remarkable difference. Are you going to read the a whole title paragraph like that for every article you look up? Long title paragraphs deter users who are simply surfing or frantically looking for the low down of a specific subject at handm, they are also a pleasure for the serious researcher.

Unfortunately this is not a guideline. I think editors should be advised about this point and I would feel privileged to start the article. Please let me know how I could go about it. Thanks

Chavatshimshon 07:54, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

See WP:LEAD. Ian¹³/t 18:34, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Concordia council

Dear Ian,

Not really. I'd be willing to hold a semi-active seat, perhaps with just an advisory role over a voting one.

Still, I believe Concordia should be disbanded. (not the spirit, I know).

Thanks,

Joe Computerjoe's talk 22:09, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

RE:Concordia

I'd be happy to resume an active role in the organisation if it is revived - • The Giant Puffin • 22:09, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah. --Osbus 22:27, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Would you mind letting me know what you have in mind? (Paranomasia not intended.) (^'-')^ Covington 08:14, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I am just looking to re-promote civility. I would send out a newsletter to all of our members inviting them to help out. We could promote the civility cup token and barnstar to make us known more widely, and try and get an effective noticeboard for where help may be needed in maintaining civility (this could be small, and people make sugestions on the notice board and admins post). Ian¹³/t 09:45, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Let me know when you are starting up. I am busy this week, but after that, I should be open. (^'-')^ Covington 12:56, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Haven't seen you around since long. — Nearly Headless Nick ^{L} 08:51, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Aye, I have been on a bit of a WikiBreak. Ian¹³/t 18:20, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Welcome back. We need more hard-working people around. Cheers. — Nearly Headless Nick ^{L} 13:00, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Concordia Newsletter

NEWSLETTER

Concordia is currently trying to relaunch. I, and all the members of the ex-council, wish to welcome new members to the group. We are a group who aim to promote remaining civil, in an environment where messages can easily be interpretated wrongly.

Help out now!

• Try and help people remain civil! Talk to them, and help them in any way possible. Do not be afraid to use the talk page.
• Give people the Civility Barnstar.
• Make and spread some Wikitokens so people know there are people to help if they want assistance.
• Add banners or logos to your userpage to show your support.
• Suggest some ideas! Add 'em to the talk page.

We are a community, so can only work though community contributions and support. It's the helping that counts.

Decision Making

The council expired one month ago, but due to the current position of the group the current council will remain until the position of the group can be assessed, and whether it would be sensible to keep Concordia going. For most decisions, however, it will be decided by all who choose to partake in discussions. I am trying to relaunch because of the vast amounts of new members we have received, demonstrating that the aims are supported.

If you wish to opt of of further talk-page communications, just let us know here.

- Ian¹³/t 20:29, 13 December 2006 (UTC). Kindly delivered by MiszaBot.

User:Sussexman

Thank you for your comment on this user's Talk page, but I cannot see where he personally issued a legal action or why he personally would have done so? Chelsea Tory 20:44, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, as far as I was aware, this was the whole reason for blocking, and from what I gathered, such a notice was not in dispute. Ian¹³/t 21:30, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

I just wanted to wish you a Merry Christmas -- UKPhoenix79 25 December 2006

Undeletion Discussion for G.ho.st

An editor has asked for a deletion review of G.ho.st. Since you closed the deletion discussion for (or speedy-deleted) this article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. TareqM 19:15, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Concordia

Hey. My time is vastly diminished by school, so I don't think I'll be able to serve on the Concordia council. I might pop in once in a while. Thanks — Ilyanep (Talk) 01:23, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Could you review my user page?

Could you review my user page and help me determine why the userbox notice is gumming up the look of it? Thanks, Scienter 18:58, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

This edit broke your userpage (and lots of other peoples). I have now reverted the edit. Thanks for pointing it out - because there was probably a lot of confused people out there. Ian¹³/t 19:18, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks very much! I appreciate your timely help. Salud, Scienter 20:32, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Şebinkarahisar

Ben bu topraklarda Şebinkarahisar da yaşıyorum bu topraklada doğdum bu topraklarda büyüdüm ve neler yaşandığını sizlerden daha iyi biliyorum ama benim şehrimin benim yaşadığım yerin tarihinin yanlış taraflı ve lobicilik faaliyetleri içerisinde insalara olmayan bir şeyi sahte, asılsız ve düzmece kaynakları sunarak olmuş gibi göstererek anlatılmasını önleyemiyorum banlanıyorum yada Şebinkarahisar maddesi kilitleriniyor. Sizler bu topraklarda yaşadınızmı da biliyorsunuz ? Ermeni Diasporası tarihi istedikleri gibi yazabilir mi ? Ellerinde yetkileri var diye bu yetkilerini kendi çıkarları için kullanabilirler mi ? Neden tüm Türk sayfalarına sadece asılsız ermeni soykırımı hakkında bilgiler ekliyorlar Vikipedia tarafsız ve özgür ansiklopedi değilmi ? Madem bu admin arkadaşalar çok bilgili neden coğrafi, ekonomik, nüfus bilgilerini insanlar için faydalı olacak bilgileri girmiyorlarda sadece asılsız ermeni soykırımı hakkında bilgiler veriyorlar. BU HAKKI NEREDEN BULUYORLAR ? --88.231.200.89 10:25, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

I am sorry, I am unable to read Turkish. Ian¹³/t 12:28, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Look I Can Make Up Words Too

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Dog cicero (talk · contribs)

It appears you seem to be mistaking Dog cicero (talk · contribs) for Cicero Dog (talk · contribs). It's an easy mistake to make but there seems no reason why Dog Cicero should be blocked - only made to change names. CDMS 15:38, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Check user procedure

You recently compiled and listed a case at requests for checkuser. A checkuser or clerk has requested you supply one or more diffs to justify the use of the checkuser procedure in the case, in accordance with the procedures listed in the table at the top of the requests for checkuser page. For an outcome to be achieved, we require that you provide these diffs as soon as possible. This has been implemented to reduce difficulties for checkusers, and is essential for your case to be processed. A link to your recently-created case which has this information missing is here. Thanks for your co-operation. -- lucasbfr ^talk 15:55, 16 April 2007 (UTC), checkuser clerk.

I have not idea why you suggest I am involved. CDMS 18:07, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I am just curious as to why a very new user would spend most of his time concerned with such a case. You appear to have quite a developed wiki knowledge (yes, this is your second account I believe) but I just wondered why you were interested in a case where one admin has blocked, and 3 others refused an unblock request. Ian¹³/t 20:43, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Meetup

I saw your interest on Wikipedia:Meetup/Manchester ... another is being organised at Wikipedia:Meetup/Manchester 2, hope you aren't too busy and can come! :) Majorly (hot!) 00:33, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I sadly have exams at this time, and then back into lessons. Ian¹³/t 17:31, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Joe Dick

Hi I was wondering if you could help us here. HoneyBee and Myself have some difficulties with a new user Joe Dick. He has removed a large amount of content from the Methos and Duncan MacLeod articles and each time the content is reverted back he claims vandalism on our parts and refuses to discuss his reasons on the talk pages. Not only that he has been reverting the warnings placed on his talk page leaving a message on our talk page stating Please do not post any further invalid warnings to my talk page, or I will report you. Please can you help resolve this as he will not listen to any regular users, Thanks -- UKPhoenix79 22:13, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Its all over before it began. But Thanks anyway :-) -- UKPhoenix79 23:38, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!

The Wikipedia:Birthday Committee is proud to wish you a very happy birthday. May all your wishes come true! Thank you for all of your contributions to this wonderful encyclopedia. Yours truly, Eddie 00:13, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. :) Ian¹³/t 10:21, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

User:Arnon Chafffin/Happy Birthday!Arnon Chaffin (Talk) 16:07, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Support. Per Above. — Taggard (Complain) 09:03, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Smile!

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Motorways userbox

Hi, as a member of Motorways WikiProject, you might like this userbox: {{User Motorways Wikiproject}}, which produces:

This user is a member of United Kingdom Roads Task Force.

Thanks  — superbfc [ talk | cont ] — 13:00, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Nice

Now that is a good userpage quote. Benjwong 05:09, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. Ian¹³/t 15:35, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: M62

In all honesty, I don't think I would be able to - I only really know the layout of the M62 as I've been on it so many times, and even with that map, I'm sure there are several errors (like part A goes north too fast or part B isn't as south as it should). Will ^(talk) 17:37, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

It depends on the copyright on the aerial photos, as I think it would be classed as a derivative work, yes. Will ^(talk) 17:51, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Motorway Routeboxes

Hi Ian, would you mind putting the road numbers at the end as we have on the motorway tables? The A500 road received [{WP:GA]] status using that format. Thanks, Regan123 17:24, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I have personally been using M62_motorway as my template (also a GA), and to me it appears more readable as it shows the connecting roads (which themselves have multiple destinations). It also removes the need to bold all of the road names, improving readability. Maybe we should try and get some community opinion on this if we still share different opinions, like at village pump? Thanks. Ian¹³/t 17:29, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I personally have some accessibility concerns about the M62 table particularly with regard to the colours of the table as per the {{WP:MOS]] and Wikipedia:Accessibility. I think it should be as plain as possible, which is why I was about to decolour all the existing tables. For readability the number at the front to my mind jars as where the road goes is more important than the number and doesn't match the road sign structures we have in the UK. (I'll keep this page under watch so feel free just to reply here) Regan123 17:40, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, I think the M62 box is a lot plainer than the old ones, but I would be happy to decolourise all the no exit boxes. We are not trying to provide a road map here, and I think it is more encyclopaedic if we list the road name first. It is the road that intersects the motorway, and then we can list all the possible main destinations by following that road. I think that part of making it more clear and accessible is reducing the need to separately bold certain things - and if the road name is placed first then we don't need to bold it at the end (not bolded but at the end is personally a REAL pain to read and associate a destination with a road) and it is more clear as to what destinations we are referring to. The road name at the end always seems a mess to me (dest1, dest2 Axxx dest3 Bxxxx) as opposed to a more structured form (Axxx: dest1, dest2. Bxxxx: dest3.). We are never going to be able to list all the possible destinations of a road, but listing the road names implies a connection to all of those possible destinations, and the notable ones can be listed for reference. Hope that sort-of makes sense to you. Ian¹³/t 18:15, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

The whole point of a road is to get you to X. For destinations I have used various sources to get what is on the road sign. I find the M62 box to now be confusing and not at all easy to read (eg. J8). Encyclopaedic would include approaching the issue as it is handled locally (e.g. British/US spelling) and in the UK destinations are considered on signage to be more important than road numbers. Take off the bolding but leave it at the end is not a problem to me, but these updated tables are to me worse than the older ones. Now the opening time line is fantastic. I must get round to looking at that for a couple of other articles I have worked on! (Sorry for the more bullet point text but about to go out and wanted to reply) Cheers, Regan123 18:25, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I will look into putting it at the end - but I find this gets very hard to read, especially when the listed destinations go over multiple lines. If anything, not bolding but at the end (as I mentioned last time) is harder to read than either of the other choices. Motorway signs, whilst they position the road number at the end, make that number bigger than other text (I am not suggesting we do this here) rather implying that the road number is more important and encompasing of the previous items. This is something we cannot replicate here (sensibly), so I personally think that it is better to put it at the front and use standard English grammar (:'s) to indicate the list of destinations. Ian¹³/t 18:50, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Current	New	A compromise?
LONDON, Bristol (M32) M4 E SOUTH WALES, Chepstow (M48) M4 W	M4 E: LONDON, Bristol (M32) M4 W: SOUTH WALES, Chepstow (M48)	LONDON, Bristol (M32) — M4 E SOUTH WALES, Chepstow (M48) — M4 W
I find this very confusing as to which road gives access to the others	Clear list, but doesn't emulate road signs	It's still a little confusing over things like line breaks, but it is better than no seperator

(Try resizing the screen to see what I mean when road names end up on new lines.) Ian¹³/t 19:01, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

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