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If you are unable to complete a move for technical reasons, you can request technical help below. This is the correct method if you tried to move a page, but you got an error message saying something like "You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reasons:..." or "The/This page could not be moved, for the following reason:..."

To list a technical request: edit the Uncontroversial technical requests subsection and insert the following code at the bottom of the list, filling in pages and reason:
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{{subst:RMassist|current page title|new title|reason=edit summary for the move}}
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This will automatically insert a bullet and include your signature. Please do not edit the article's talk page.
If you object to a proposal listed in the uncontroversial technical requests section, please move the request to the Contested technical requests section, append a note on the request elaborating on why, and sign with ~~~~. Consider pinging the requester to let them know about the objection.
If your technical request is contested, or if a contested request is left untouched without reply, create a requested move on the article talk and remove the request from the section here. The fastest and easiest way is to click the "discuss" button at the request, save the talk page, and remove the entry on this page.

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Bangabandhu Military Museum → Bangladesh Military Museum (currently a redirect back to Bangabandhu Military Museum) (move · discuss) – common name 2400:C600:4520:4CBC:75B:7BF8:F768:636A (talk) 21:03, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hlemmur (terminal) → Hlemmur (move · discuss) – This bus terminal is now no longer a 'terminal', evoloved into a city square. Disambiguation page Hlemmur refers to films and music referring to the town square. Drumstick21 (talk) 01:11, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Empire Theatre (41st Street) (currently a redirect to Empire Theatre (40th Street)) → Empire Theatre (40th Street) (move · discuss) – Both contemporary and period sources list the Empire Theatre at 1430 Broadway, which is between 39th and 40th not 40th and 41st, and existing photographs including the one on the page show it at the southeast corner of 40th and Broadway Mshetina (talk) 02:05, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draft:O C'mon All Ye Faithful is invalid. Must create Draft:O C'mon All Ye Faithful before requesting that it be moved to O C'mon All Ye Faithful.– move draft to mainspace over redirect Pallettown (talk) 03:34, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:B3251/Stepz is invalid. Must create User:B3251/Stepz before requesting that it be moved to Stepz.– Moving to mainspace B3251_(talk) 05:52, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hangzhou–Haining Intercity Rail → Hangzhou–Haining intercity railway (currently a redirect back to Hangzhou–Haining Intercity Rail) (move · discuss) – As per WP:COMMONNAME, it seems that most sources use this name. It also matches the naming format of other Chinese rail lines on Wikipedia. Félix An (talk) 09:03, 18 December 2024 (UTC) Félix An (talk) 09:03, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Contested technical requests

Khudafarin Bridges → Khoda Afarin Bridges (currently a redirect back to Khudafarin Bridges) (move · discuss) – Correct and more common spelling Persian. Consistent with similar articles such as Khoda Afarin County, Khoda Afarin Dam, Khoda Afarin District. 116.71.186.202 (talk • contribs) 14:34, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There was a discussion at Talk:Khodaafarin Bridges#Common name in February 2023 which led to the current name. Although that wasn't a formal RM, it had a small consensus amongst two participants and was almost two years ago, so I'd probably label this one as potentially controversial. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 19:53, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Asian Team Squash Championships → Asian Squash Team Championships (currently a redirect back to Asian Team Squash Championships) (move · discuss) – The correct order as per official tournament name OCDD (talk)
I'm not particularly seeing evidence that that is the official name, still less the common name. It actually seems like simply Asian Team Championships is the name generally used, without mentioning squash in the title at all, so I'd probably favour a move to that since it's not ambiguous with anything else of that name. — Amakuru (talk) 19:57, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Welfare (disambiguation) → Welfare (currently a redirect instead to Welfare spending) (move · discuss) – Not at all clear to me that "welfare spending" is the primary topic for "welfare". – Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 19:04, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This deserves a full discussion. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 20:49, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Concorde Bridge (Montreal) (currently a redirect to Pont de la Concorde (Montreal)) → Concorde Bridge (currently a redirect instead to Pont de la Concorde) (move · discuss) – Unnecessary disambiguation. (Note that this article's title was changed from French to English after 16.5 years due to a seemingly-unfounded accusation of vandalism.) J 947 ‡ ^edits 02:48, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've left a message on the previous mover's Talk page. I'd like to figure out that weird edit summary accusation before performing this move. Toadspike [Talk] 10:18, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've reverted the recent page move, back to Pont de la Concorde (Montreal)... as far as I can tell from sources such as [1][2][3] it is reasonably common to use the French title in English works. At the very least this merits a discussion. Also, as an aside, I wouldn't support the move suggested here anyway. "Concorde Bridge" can just as easily refer to the bridge in Paris as the one in Montreal, even in English. — Amakuru (talk) 10:51, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Howver, Paris is French, but Montreal is bilingual English and French, so the affinity falls towards Montreal and not Paris. And Montreal English exists, even if the Provincial Government of Quebec has outlawed its use in official contexts, such as the bridge name. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 04:45, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

None of this is relevant to WP:COMMONNAME. Furthermore, "Concorde Bridge" is clearly ambiguous. 162 etc. (talk) 17:07, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Catherine Black (actress) → Catherine Black (actor-director) (move · discuss) – actor-director more accurately describes Catherine Black's work history and profession, additionally, the term actress is gendered and divisive, and the term actor should be used instead. Catblack909 (talk) 16:51, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not uncontroversial or technical. Proposals regarding actress/actor require full discussions for the record on talk pages. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 17:11, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Catblack909 This request has been contested. If you want to continue with the move, please click the "discuss" link in your request above to start a move discussion. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 03:27, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Elizabeth Scott, Duchess of Buccleuch (1954–2023) → Elizabeth Montagu-Douglas-Scott, Duchess of Buccleuch (currently a redirect back to Elizabeth Scott, Duchess of Buccleuch (1954–2023)) (move · discuss) – It's better to disambiguate these articles by their different last names – the 20th-century duchess has a triple-barrelled last name. —Kaliforniyka^Hi! 19:53, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Elizabeth Scott, Duchess of Buccleuch (1743–1827) → Elizabeth Scott, Duchess of Buccleuch (move · discuss) – It's better to disambiguate these articles by their different last names – the 18th-century duchess only had the last name Scott, as it was before the family acquired these other surnames. —Kaliforniyka^Hi! 19:53, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kaliforniyka, I'm contesting this request because of a primary topic grab. They are not clearly uncontroversial for us movers, and typically involve shifting more than one page around. You will need to start a full RM, which can be done with the "discuss" button in your request. Sennecaster (Chat) 06:45, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Titanes del Distrito → Titanes del Distrito Nacional (currently a redirect back to Titanes del Distrito) (move) – HanTsî (talk) 13:57, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@HanTsî What is the reason for this move? --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 03:22, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
full name. HanTsî (talk) 03:24, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is no particular reason to use the full name. The policies of WP:CONCISE and WP:COMMONNAME apply here and as far as I can see many sources simply use "Titanes del Distrito". Suggest this be declined unless further evidence presented. Or HanTsî you could start a WP:RM discussion if you wish to proceed. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 11:35, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Clark Kent (Superman & Lois) → Clark Kent (Arrowverse) (currently a redirect instead to List of Supergirl characters) (move · discuss) – This article is about the whole of the Arrowverse. Yeah, Superman and Lois is the main parts but not the whole thing. EEfamilytrees (talk)
This request is not a technical request. --Gonnym (talk) 17:19, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Lois Lane (Superman & Lois) → Lois Lane (Arrowverse) (currently a redirect instead to Lois Lane in other media) (move · discuss) – This article is about the whole of the Arrowverse. Yeah, Superman and Lois is the main parts but not the whole thing. EEfamilytrees (talk)
This request is not a technical request. --Gonnym (talk) 17:19, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Chiang Ching (dancer) → Chiang Ching (currently a redirect instead to Jiang Qing (disambiguation)) (move · discuss) – An old redirect to a disambiguation page. - The9Man ^Talk 11:29, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
With Jiang Qing (a similar name under different Romanization) and Chiang Ching-kuo also in the mix, I don't think the dancer is the primary topic. Needs much better evidence and rationale if we're to go ahead. — Amakuru (talk) 12:43, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agree, Jiang Qing is probably the primary topic here. 162 etc. (talk) 17:04, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chiang Ching and Jiang Qing are the exact same name (江青), just romanized under different systems. I believe precedent in the past is to consider two differently romanized versions of the same name to be, for all intents and purposes, fully ambiguous.
In this case, Jiang Qing would be the primary topic for both "Chiang Ching" and "Jiang Qing". Article on the dancer was just created 2 days ago, so I'd suggest leaving everybody where they're at for a few months and re-evaluating once we have pageview data for the newly created article. RachelTensions (talk) 18:49, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@The9Man Not primary topic RachelTensions (talk) 18:50, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Five Nights at Freddy's 2 (film) → Five Nights at Freddy's 2 (film) (currently a redirect instead to Five Nights at Freddy's (film)) (move · discuss) – Filming already began KingArti (talk) 02:14, 15 December 2024 (UTC) KingArti (talk) 02:14, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@KingArti Is there actually any confirmation from after October 27th that filming began? --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 03:24, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have some reservations about this. I did a cursory search and found that all sources reporting an October filming start date were tentative and premature, while an article from Bleeding Cool published on 4 December states that the film is still in pre-production and is expected to begin filming in Spring 2025.[4] I do not believe it currently satisfies WP:NFF. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 20:11, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pimpari → Pimpri, Mawal (move · discuss) – name correction 103.185.174.245 (talk) 15:18, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Appears to be unambiguous. 162 etc. (talk) 17:05, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Syria TV → Syrian TV (currently a redirect back to Syria TV) (move · discuss) – official name Panam2014 (talk) 22:50, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:OFFICIALNAMES is not a valid reason to move this article. Please could we have some actual evidence? I'm a little confused what "Syria(n) TV" actually is, anyway. The article says it's a channel, but it seems like it might be more of a network. Also conscious that "Syrian TV" could be a wider term referencing TV in the country generally. — Amakuru (talk) 11:51, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Amakuru: sure: [5], [6], [7], [8], [9] Panam2014 (talk) 23:31, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Lagardère Group → Lagardère (company) (move · discuss) – The company simply is known as "Lagardère" VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 20:24, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 natural disambiguation is preferred over parenthesis. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 01:49, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

John the Baptist in Islam → Yahya ibn Zakariya (currently a redirect back to John the Baptist in Islam) (move · discuss) – He has a name in Arabic and it should be used. Nobody knows him by "John the Baptist" in Islam. I would argue that "John the Baptist in Islam" violates WP:NPOV Abo Yemen ✉ 12:06, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I object to this move for two reasons:
1. You have not established that this fulfills our requirement to use the most common names from English-language sources,
2. It appears to violate WP:CONSISTENT, since we also have God in Islam, Jesus in Islam, Zechariah in Islam, etc.
JJP_{Mas_ter} (she/they) 13:18, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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User:Dealbatros/Zac Poonen → Zac Poonen (move · discuss) – I made a mistake by translate the page from Dutch to English Dealbatros (talk) 21:04, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
City Line (Merseytravel) → City line (Merseytravel) (currently a redirect back to City Line (Merseytravel)) (move · discuss) – To match the sentence case of the other Merseyrail lines, e.g. Wirral line, and also to follow how every Transport for London underground and overground line is named, e.g. Victoria line, Elizabeth line 10mmsocket (talk) 07:59, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 * {{RMassist/core | 1 =  Draft:O C'mon All Ye Faithful  | 2 =  O C'mon All Ye Faithful  | discuss =  | reason = move draft to mainspace over redirect | sig = [[User:Pallettown|Pallettown]] ([[User talk:Pallettown|talk]]) 03:34, 18 December 2024 (UTC) | requester = Pallettown}}
 * {{RMassist/core | 1 =  User:B3251/Stepz  | 2 =  Stepz  | discuss =  | reason = Moving to mainspace | sig = <span style="display:inline-block;background:linear-gradient(to right,#24D628,#F934EF,#9F5300);padding:2px 10px;border-top-left-radius:15px;border-bottom-right-radius:15px;"><b>[[User:B3251|B3251]]</b></span>'''''[[User_talk:B3251|<sub>(talk)</sub>]]''''' 05:52, 18 December 2024 (UTC) | requester = B3251}}
+* {{RMassist/core | 1 = Hangzhou–Haining Intercity Rail | 2 = Hangzhou–Haining intercity railway | discuss =  | reason = As per WP:COMMONNAME, it seems that most sources use this name. It also matches the naming format of other Chinese rail lines on Wikipedia. | sig = [[User:Félix An|Félix An]] ([[User talk:Félix An|talk]]) 09:03, 18 December 2024 (UTC) | requester = Félix An}} [[User:Félix An|Félix An]] ([[User talk:Félix An|talk]]) 09:03, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
 ==== Requests to revert undiscussed moves ====