Talk:Avengers (Marvel Cinematic Universe)

Merge?

This is a great article – thanks for all the work to get it here. There does seem to be a lot of overlap with Avengers (comics) – wouldn’t it be better for our readers if these were made into a single article? Onceinawhile (talk) 09:27, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

A lot of overlap? There's some comic info when talking about early development of the first movie and then a "differences from the comics" section. Other than that, the majority of the article has nothing to do with the comics, unless you're counting characters having the same names. -- ZooBlazer 17:43, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

No. Avengers (comics) is long enough and if these pages are merged, the MCU content will have to be greatly reduced as it will have undue weight in that article, which then defeats the purpose of the merge. Gonnym (talk) 18:09, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Planned Good Topic

Now that this article has been promoted to a GA, I wanted to bring up the idea of a planned Avengers Good Topic again. I brought up the idea on the MCU task force talk page back in July, but I figured it should be brought back up here now that just two more articles need to be promoted to GA of the ones I had planned to include. Those being Production of Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame (currently nominated for GA) and Avengers assemble scene (should be nominated soon).

The planned topic would look something like assuming those two articles are promoted to GAs (formatting is subject to change):

Avengers (Marvel Cinematic Universe)

10 articles

The Avengers

Accolades

Age of Ultron

Infinity War

Accolades

Endgame

Accolades

"Avengers assemble" scene

Production of Infinity War and Endgame

I mostly bring this up to make sure there is time to talk about any arguments on other potential additions while the GA process concludes for the other articles, or if nothing else needs to be included until Avengers 5 (unless an article for something like the Avengers theme gets created between now and then for example). -- ZooBlazer 02:03, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Per the original discussion, some of the other options included the soundtracks for each film, Avengers Campus, and potentially Lego Marvel's Avengers. I guess other options based on Category:Avengers (film series) could be What If... the World Lost Its Mightiest Heroes?, What If... Peter Quill Attacked Earth's Mightiest Heroes?, and What If... the Avengers Assembled in 1602?. Of all of those, I feel like only the soundtracks really could maybe have an argument to be included. The criteria for WP:GT states A topic must not cherry-pick only the best articles to become featured together, while also saying a set of similar, interrelated articles or lists that cover a specific topic. I feel like the scope of the topic is to focus on the films, while the accolades covers what is seen in the films. Not every subpage has to be included. -- ZooBlazer 07:17, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

I think it shouldn't add more articles since every important article it's already there. BigLordFlash^talk 15:17, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Add current alive or deceased state to the roster under status

The member roster states former or current status but no note if the character is alive or dead. I think this would help. 100.43.112.168 (talk) 19:19, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Those were previously removed as WP:FANCRUFT in-universe details not particularly necessary for this table. The fate of the characters is already explained in the fictional biography. Trailblazer101 (talk) 19:34, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

needs vitality rating

. 216.164.249.213 (talk) 11:32, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

No articles need a vital rating, although I am not sure this once is necessary or if it would be accepted as other MCU articles did not reach this when proposed. Trailblazer101 (talk) 15:13, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

the most commercially successful movie franchise of all time by far needs a vitality rating yes, and it needs to be at least 4 216.164.249.213 (talk) 00:21, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

This article is about the roster of characters, not the film series. Besides, Marvel Cinematic Universe is already a level-5 vital article, and these character articles were deemed to fall under that one in terms of vitability. The MCU is the broad topic for what you are suggesting. Trailblazer101 (talk) 00:47, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

the article for luffy from one piece (pretty much 0 following outside japan and ph) has a vital rating. level 5 means the article is among the 50,000 most important articles on the site, so yes, the characters from the most popular movie franchise in the world deserve to be a part of it, and honestly they deserve to be in levels 4 or 3 too (although i'm aware the latter will never happen as there is a strong historic bias on wikipedia) 216.164.249.213 (talk) 05:25, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

We do not determine vitability at the article talks. That is handled at WP:Vital articles. If you feel this should be included, take it there, not here (though I caution that it is unlikely to pass). WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS in regards to the example you provided, as not everything is vetted the same or by the same editors. Trailblazer101 (talk) 06:17, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

WP:OSE is for deletion because people can create an article without much vetting. as you've pointed out vital ratings are vetted much more so it doesn't really apply.

i wasn't aware there was a designated place to post these. i'm aware of the vital articles page but i don't see any place to start a discussion about an specific article 216.164.249.213 (talk) 07:06, 7 July 2024 (UTC)