Talk:French Fifth Republic

Untitled discussion dated 7 June 2012

Currency was never CFP Franc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.118.1 (talk) 12:37, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

War on terror

This section having nothing to do with the fifth republic I deleted it. Mthibault 11:12, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

As many states use numbers to refer to different republic, it is important to state which state's fifth republic it is. While I don't know of another fifth republic, there are a number of first and second republics. It is worth keeping a consistent style throughout all the French republics, so it should be [[{state} {number} Republic]]. FearÉIREANN 17:27 12 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Presidents Timeline

I tried working on the timeline in the Fifth Republic: Presidents section, but I can't quite get it to work right. The problems with it, as I see it are: its bad links (for Georges Pompidou and Valery Giscard d'Estaing), it's unreadable (light blue on blue?), and Mitterrand's block is red for no apparent reason. Onepairofpants 04:12, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Have you considered that Mitterrand's block may have been in red because he was a Socialist? Just a thought. -- Lincolnite 23:36, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Someone changed the timeline to a list, then someone changed it to a table. Good calls. Thanks MiShogun and Mthibault for that. Onepairofpants 03:07, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Alain Poher

Monsieur Poher isn't usually venerated as a true président de la République. If nobody's really against it I'll take his name off the list and put a note down below or something. As it is, he looks just as important as de Gaulle, d'Estaing or Mitterand. Any comments or suggestions ? Take a look at the French version to see how they do it, too. --Aquarelle 23:10, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Your proposal is good to me, I think Poher's name should be put only in a note, as René Coty's one (he continued to act as a temporary head of state in 1958-1959 before De Gaulle were elected, see French version again). MFG, 23:49, 25 February 2007

Just for your information, Alain Poher is considering as a real President, even if he was not elected. Constitutionnaly speaking, in case of vacancy of President (death or over big reason), Senate President have to assure the Presidency, with smaller rights, to organize new election (same as vice president in United Stated, with rigth smaller !) Véronique Pagnier (talk) 16:15, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Proposed name change

To Fifth French Republic (I am proposing this change for all French Republic articles.)

Fifth French Republic is a more precise translation of Cinquième République Française. The official name of the country is the French Republic, and it is the fifth one. Funnyhat 07:02, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Let's keep the discussion unfragmented, since we will either make all these name changes or none of them. Could everyone please respond on Talk:French Fourth Republic? Phaunt 22:35, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Proposed Merge

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Since this discussion has been open for 6 months, and the majority of opinion is against the proposal, I think it's safe to declare consensus doesn't exist for merge at this time. JEdgarFreeman (talk) 10:32, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

This article does not have any useful information, and having two separate articles for "French Fifth Republic" and "France" is completely useless. --Fixman_{(Praise me)} 00:45, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Survey

Add Support or Oppose followed by an explanation, then sign your opinion with -~~~~'

• Support for reasons already explained --Fixman_{(Praise me)} 00:45, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose. France refers to the region; the Fifth Republic refers to the government. Bsimmons666 (talk) ^Friend? 02:09, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose. IMHO an odd suggestion. "The Fifth Republic" is clearly a subject which rates a standalone article. Submerging this article in the general article France would be a bad idea. -- 201.53.7.16 (talk) 15:47, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose. For the same reason that The Weimar Republic and Holy Roman Empire are separated from Germany. You might also look in Category:Defunct_constitutions for links to articles on the particular regimes associated with those constitutions. French Fifth Republic should have the same focus, as well as the same level of integration into and overlap of France, Government of France, Constitution of France and History of France. T L Miles (talk) 17:28, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
• Oppose. The topic contained in this article is distinct from the France article. If there is no useful information on the topic in the article currently, generate some. 21:49, 29 January 2009 (EST)
• Oppose I understand the reasoning behind the proposed merger. However, T L Miles couldn't have put my concerns better. This political entity is distinct enough to warrant its own article, imo. JEdgarFreeman (talk) 10:26, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Opinion

• It's not necessary, because article France discusses everything about the country, while this article only discusses about the government itself. 98.112.201.198 (talk) 07:05, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

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Dubious

See Talk:French_constitutional_referendum, 1958. Our 79.2% percentage does not fit any of the meaningful percentages one can compute from the official data. David.Monniaux (talk) 00:03, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

I have found a figure of 85.14% from a reliable source, "Government and Politics of France" a book by Anne Stevens. The same source gives turn-out as 80.49%. I cannot from these figures see where the figure of 79.2% has come from, and am going to change in on the original page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.169.115 (talk) 20:06, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Republic series format

This article should probably be brought inline with the formatting of the other republic articles in the series. I've copied the template over, but unfortunately the country template doesn't seem to offer support for linkages to former incarnations. Other tweaks are also necessary. --Belg4mit (talk) 17:26, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

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Map - Djibouti missing?

Djibouti got indipent in 1977... shouldn't it be on the map in the infobox?--Alexmar983 (talk) 17:28, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

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Map - Britain still in EU

In the first map, the United Kingdom is still pictured as light green in the European Union. RaiBrown1204 (talk) 17:28, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Carolyn Danielle

Maybe Thank You everything is beautiful 2601:18E:C401:F00:74E1:1F96:480A:FF05 (talk) 23:54, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

France still a republic in the twenty-first Century?

Is France still a republic? I doubt it. I recon all of France has been under foreign occupation again since about the time of the Millenium. That would make Jaques Chiraq the final president of the fifth republic.

Ps. not sure if its the NAZIs this time! ( 31.52.124.188 (talk) 14:30, 13 February 2022 (UTC) ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.52.124.188 (talk) 14:22, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Fifth before French

This title must have been written by a non-native English speaker. The order of adjectives requires it to be the Fifth French Republic. 2600:1702:6D0:5160:6CEA:6F40:FC58:A459 (talk) 16:22, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

It seems to be in line with French Fourth Republic, French Third Republic, and French Second Republic. It probably stems from the fact that French has a different adjective ordering.

Alternatively, it could be something to do with the number being more tied to the word Republic than to the word French. Someone may refer to it as the "Fifth Republic" in a context that it being French is already assumed. In this case, the "French" qualifier is differentiating it from other Fifth Republics as opposed to Fifth differentiating this Republic from other French Republics.

The most likely reason is that it is tradition. I bet if I were to read into the history of this name choice, it would be a decision made a long time ago by diplomats as to determine how they wanted France to be referred to; this makes sense to me when you see places like the Ivory Coast request to formally be referred to as Côte d'Ivoire or the Czech Republic wanting to be referred to as Czechia.

So, in the end, I think you are right that a "non-native English speaker" made it, but I doubt it was a Wikipedian. Most likely it was an ambassador or diplomat in the 18th or 19th century. GigaDerp (talk) 16:50, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

First Paragraph Not Updated

The intro paragraph of this wikipedia article clearly had not been updated since at least 2008 and states that the French Fifth Republic "will surpass the Third Republic" sometime in 2008. I don't know how to edit but would appreciate if someone could update this. 2601:541:480:EDA0:F31B:73F6:925D:193A (talk) 15:35, 15 August 2023 (UTC)