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The first paragraph of this article uses the woman-erasing, misogynistic language "people with vulvas." Why is this here, and why has the article apparently been protected from fixing this slur without even any conversation about it? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2601:600:817F:39A0:25EE:B2F6:FFC5:A175|2601:600:817F:39A0:25EE:B2F6:FFC5:A175]] ([[User talk:2601:600:817F:39A0:25EE:B2F6:FFC5:A175#top|talk]]) 16:58, 27 June 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Wildly variant data in "Environmental Considerations" section
The first sentence in this section says about 83 million rolls are produced per day(=30.3 billion rolls per year) without indicating if this is global or just US. It also states that Global toilet paper production consumes 27,000 trees daily, which at 810 rolls per tree (the 200 rolls figure erroneously cited in this sentence has been corrected by others previously) indicates global production of only 8.0 billion rolls annually. The second sentence begins by stating that "More than seven billion rolls of toilet paper are sold yearly in the United States alone" without citing a source but then continues "Americans use an average of 141 rolls per capita a year", which amounts to 46.5 billion rolls. These wildly divergent numbers derive from three or more different sources. Which, if any, of these original sources are reliable?
Citation 29, the "Fun Facts" source has numerous inconsistencies, such as "It takes about 384 trees to make the toilet paper that one man uses within his lifetime." "An average tree... yielding...approximately 810 rolls...", and "The average person uses 100 rolls of toilet paper per year...". Clearly something is wrong here as this implies that average man will live for 3110 years. For a bit of humor, the information that "Toilet paper was first patented in Albany (Small country in Europe)"... well it was not the small country in Europe (Albania), but Albany NY, as the Wikipedia article correctly points out.
Citation 48, the Statista estimate of 141 rolls/year/capita, at 90 gms per roll implies total production of 4.2 million tonnes, or about half of the total tissue and sanitary paper capacity of the US industry and seems more realistic from that standpoint, although I don't now how we manage to use nearly half a roll per day, each.
Citation 47, the figure or 27,000 trees used daily for toilet paper production from the World Watch article summarized by National Geographic's Green Guide obviously is inconsistent with actual production although the issue itself is relevant to this section of the Wikipedia piece.
Unfortunately, I was not able to find reliable data sources for toilet paper production, although such information used to be available from various trade sources. It would be helpful if Wikipedia contributors could assess the reliability or accuracy of the sources they have used, as the caution "This article needs additional citations for verification" otherwise must apply to the entire article. KZander (talk) 08:26, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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There was a shortage of tolit paper in 2020 because of covid-19. 204.14.61.163 (talk) 15:23, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. -ink&fables «talk» 15:27, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
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In the brief "Toilet paper orientation" section, please add a pair of images. Here's the code:
2601:5C6:8081:35C0:556C:CDC3:B721:269A (talk) 12:22, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
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It can also be used to stanch blood from minor nicks incurred during shaving. Also, in ROK, it is commonly placed on dining tables in restaurants to be used as general service tissue in lieu of or in addition to napkins. 2600:6C67:1C00:5F7E:F801:822C:2480:9CC8 (talk) 19:28, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
Misogynistic language
The first paragraph of this article uses the woman-erasing, misogynistic language "people with vulvas." Why is this here, and why has the article apparently been protected from fixing this slur without even any conversation about it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:600:817F:39A0:25EE:B2F6:FFC5:A175 (talk) 16:58, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
- Interesting that even the Wikipedia talk page for Toilet paper isn’t safe from TERFs. 2A02:810D:1340:485C:70CB:9266:EE83:8F26 (talk) 00:34, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
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