Talk:Everett Stern

Misleading article

The article creates a false impression that Stern is the whistleblower responsible for reporting information that led to the 1.9 Billion dollar settlement. This is not supported by the supporting article on the topic, a Rolling Stone article. This article shows that he was responsible only for making a report that led to a $32K settlement. The timing indicates that the 1.9 billion dollar settlement was already in the works when Stern stepped forward with his own separate complaint. See the court document which shows the HSBC had been sent a cease and desist order by federal investigators on October 6 2010: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4322267/3/3/united-states-v-hsbc-bank-usa-na/. But from the Rolling Stone article we see that Stern had only begun working at HSBC that month. He could not have initiated the investigation. Here's the article about the $32K fine apparently linked to Stern, which I don't see referenced here: https://www.wsj.com/articles/BL-252B-3169. By saying that Stern is "the" whistleblower in the article, it creates the false impression that Stern's actions led to the larger settlement. No evidence is presented anywhere that he had any connection to that settlement. Further, the Rolling Stone article's source for much of this information seems to be Everett Stone himself. A thorough community review of the sources should be taken to see what claims in the article they actually support. 100.10.14.31 (talk) 09:34, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

The article itself currently says (in the Aftermath) section that the settlement (apparently?) related to Stern's whistleblower complaints is "unrelated to the bank's December 2012 agreement". The government report on the larger HSBC case, which the article currently mentions but does not directly reference does in fact mention a whistleblower - from 2005. https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/PSI%20REPORT-HSBC%20CASE%20HISTORY%20(9.6).pdf Thus, "the" whistleblower in "the" HSBC case can not possibly be Stern.

I will remove all references to the 1.9 billion dollar settlement as utterly irrelevant. Note that additional work is needed on the rest of the text to see if there are further implications wrongly connecting Stern to the earlier, larger HSBC investigation.

This article seems to be intended from its inception to create this false impression that links Stern to the 1.9 billion dollar settlement. That raises concerns about actual authorship and purpose. Battling McGook (talk) 17:55, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

I'm also very concerned that someone purporting to be Mr. Stern has been active in the maintenance of this web page for years, and this misleading information has persisted here throughout it's entire history. Battling McGook (talk) 18:53, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Primefac I was NOT convicted of any crime in my entire life and that should not be in this Wikipedia. Everettstern (talk) 00:10, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Battling McGookYou are wrong. The 1.92 Billion dollar fine was a result of my efforts as I was passing information to the CIA and then to the FBI when I was at HSBC. You have no idea what contributions I made and the impact I had on the fine. Multiple credible news articles say I am responsible for the 1.92 Billion dollar fine. I am not sure how you are an authority on the matter. I was there at the bank and I did uncover billions of dollars of terrorists and drug cartel money laundering transactions. Everettstern (talk) 01:52, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

I'm not an authority on the matter. And by Wikipedia rules, neither are you. The references are the authority, and if they don't say it, then Wikipedia doesn't say it. There is no reference that says you(?) provided any information that led to the larger payout. That investigation began at least five years before you worked there. The only sources I've seen that reference any whistleblower mention one from 2005. It certainly seems likely that your contributions were relevant to the settlement. But that's not enough to make that claim here. Likewise, no reference verifies your claim of personally uncovering billions in transactions. All of what you say may well be true. But again, if it isn't in the references it can't be here. Battling McGook (talk) 02:10, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

HiPrimefac (talk) My article is extremely defamatory and false. I am sincerely asking for your help and the other volunteers so it is accurate. A news story came out in the Daily Local for Chester County that was Defamatory. My lawyers are suing the paper. From this paper a couple of other news sources picked up the story. Many of since dropped the story after vetting. I plead guilty to 4 counts not of disorderly conduct which is a mistameanor, but I got summary disorderly conduct which is like a traffic ticket. It does not even show up in the FBI database. It is local to PA. The judge is backed by the GOP and slammed me as retaliation for testifying to J6 against Flynn. The judge is up for election. My lawyers are appealing the sentence as it is extremely over the top for a first time offender getting the equivalent of a traffic ticket. What is important is that the DA withdrew the impersonation charges because they were not true and there was no way they could get a conviction. It is not right that the article says witnesses said I did x because I was falsy accused and not convicted. I was convicted of summary disorderly conduct for making too much noise. Not impersonating an officer. Again the first article is grossly false and there will be a major lawsuit. Politics PA already took down the article as well as a couple of others. What is being done to me is horrible because false reporting is destroying my reputation. The judge never ordered me to have mental health treatment as reported in the article and now on my wikipedia page. I do not believe something the equivalent of a traffic ticket should be on the page. Or anything regarding my mental health which is fine. I was told to plead guilty and get what most people do and that is a fine. I will be appealing everything and the attorney general will have to get involved. This was politics and not justice. You will see this one author and the Daily Local has been successfully sued for Defamation before by other parties. What this reporter did was wreckless. I sincerely ask it is not reflected on the Wikipedia page. I worked so hard to make a significant positive difference and my name is being destroyed. Everettstern (talk) 04:46, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

Defamation

Hi Primefac Nil Einne Drmies Marchjuly Robert McClenon My article is extremely defamatory and false. I am sincerely asking for your help and the other volunteers so it is accurate. A news story came out in the Daily Local for Chester County that was Defamatory. My lawyers are suing the paper. From this paper a couple of other news sources picked up the story. Many of since dropped the story after vetting. I plead guilty to 4 counts not of disorderly conduct which is a mistameanor, but I got summary disorderly conduct which is like a traffic ticket. It does not even show up in the FBI database. It is local to PA. The judge is backed by the GOP and slammed me as retaliation for testifying to J6 against Flynn. The judge is up for election. My lawyers are appealing the sentence as it is extremely over the top for a first time offender getting the equivalent of a traffic ticket. What is important is that the DA withdrew the impersonation charges because they were not true and there was no way they could get a conviction. It is not right that the article says witnesses said I did x because I was falsy accused and not convicted. I was convicted of summary disorderly conduct for making too much noise. Not impersonating an officer. Again the first article is grossly false and there will be a major lawsuit. Politics PA already took down the article as well as a couple of others. What is being done to me is horrible because false reporting is destroying my reputation. The judge never ordered me to have mental health treatment as reported in the article and now on my wikipedia page. I do not believe something the equivalent of a traffic ticket should be on the page. Or anything regarding my mental health which is fine. I was told to plead guilty and get what most people do and that is a fine. I will be appealing everything and the attorney general will have to get involved. This was politics and not justice. You will see this one author and the Daily Local has been successfully sued for Defamation before by other parties. What this reporter did was wreckless. I sincerely ask it is not reflected on the Wikipedia page. I worked so hard to make a significant positive difference and my name is being destroyed. Everettstern (talk) 16:50, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: This is the worst COI request I have ever seen. Nothing in this article is defamatory. Denied. Quetstar (talk) 19:04, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

For what it's worth, a few of the requests have been implemented (see this user talk thread), though on the whole I would think that a bit more brevity in these requests is desired. Primefac (talk) 21:47, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

Primefac Nil Einne Drmies Marchjuly Robert McClenon Please remove the negative personal life section. I posted the mental health exam results on twitter and my legal team filed a Federal Lawsuit against the Daily Local Paper for Defamation as the story is False. Please remove the section as the paper or source is now being sued. Thank you for your time and help.Everettstern (talk) 19:58, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

Charles McGonigal

Should we add that Everett Stern had a point of contact in the FBI's Charles McGonigal? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 02:19, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Is there a source that verifies this information? Is it at all relevant to his biography? Primefac (talk) 07:23, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

I have an email posted on twitter from former head of FBI Counter Intelligence Charles McGonigal naming himself as my POC to deliver National Security Intelligence. He thanks me in the email for my service to FBI. I can show the direct email from McGonigal to Wikipedia but I am not sure how. Journalists are working on a story regarding myself, Charles McGonigal, Mark Rossini, Walter Soriano, and Oleg Deripaska. Everettstern (talk) 18:22, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

This is very relevant to my Biography as I gave a recent press conference in New York City (removed the starter of the link) youtu.be/ezcbi_8O2rE revealing that I was asked to help Oleg Deripaska with a number of tasks, but I provided the real intelligence to the Central Intelligence Agency. Everettstern (talk) 18:25, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Email from Charles McGonigal (Head of FBI Counterintelligence) naming himself as Everett Stern's POC (Point of Contact) for National Security Intelligence to be passed to. This later on was determined to be the same time Charles McGonigal was working illegally for Oleg Deripaska. This is a link to the email on Twitter. https://twitter.com/EverettStern1/status/1655578153346121729?s=20 Everettstern (talk) 18:35, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Associations with Walter Soriano and Oleg Deripaska

Has Everett Stern had associations with Walter Soriano and Oleg Deripaska? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 02:28, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Who are these people, why do you think Stern would have an association with them, and why is it at all relevant to his biography? Primefac (talk) 07:24, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Please see my press conference where I name these individuals as part of an intelligence operation. youtu.be/ezcbi_8O2rE Everettstern (talk) 18:37, 28 May 2023 (UTC)