User:Mishlai

This is my page. Original eh?

Thank you for the note

I am very familiar with RealClimate.org. It is an organization that advocates policy. It also censors scientists who disagree. When reading RC, you will ALWAYS think RC pseudo-scientists won the debate because they do not allow all the facts into the debate.

For example, McIntyre and McKitrick won the Hockey Stick controversy. Have you read the Wegman Report? If you had, you would know it was written by statisticians. They were appalled both at the claims Mann made for the robustness of the statistics used and the fact Mann did not check with any real statisticians before he published. The National Academy of Sciences also weighed in on the controversy. While NAS was very polite to Mann and talked of the value of proxy studies, the report sided with McIntyre on all disputed points of science. They concluded that the bristlecone pine proxy were unreliable. They concluded the 20th century was the warmest in 600 years, but were unable to support Mann's claim it was the warmest in 1000 years. Mann was required to publish a corrigendum. BTW, Michael Mann is one of the operators of RealClimate, so their policy is to proclaim victory and change the subject. Mann's supporters call themselves the "Hockey Team." This group of people, including Wahl and Ammann, have published other proxy studies calling them "independent" but they also rely on bristlecone pine or other proxies known to be unreliable. This confuses some scientists and gives the IPCC cover.

One aspect of the global warming controversy I find interesting is the group think. This is an interesting phenomenon among climate scientists. I do not believe they are all dishonest (as I do believe Michael Mann is), but it is obvious many of them fall under the sway of the claim "the science is settled." After breaking the Hockey Stick, many more scientists are becoming more outspoken about being skeptical of AGW. I have worked on the article you mentioned List of Scientists Opposing Global Warming Consensus. William Connelly and his posse fight against including self-described skeptical scientists all the time, but there are many more listed now (and higher quality scientists) than before I arrived. The article used to claim the list was intended to be comprehensive. There are far too many skeptical scientists to list them all.

You might be interested to know that the warmers are playing with the temperature dataset again. I would suggest you read the story and the posted comments here.[1]