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Fails WP:NOLYMPICS ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 10:40, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 10:40, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Washington-related deletion discussions. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 10:40, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Worth noting - a nomination (such as this one) based solely on an assertion that an article does not meet a non-gng criteria never reflects sufficient wp:before consideration. GNG is always enough. --2603:7000:2143:8500:30CD:F863:CA5C:68FC (talk) 19:26, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom, finished #6 individual and team was #4 at the 1952 Olympics [1] which does not meet WP:NOLYMPIC. The only other info I could find about him is that he was an Army Lieutenant and 1952 was the last all-military pentathlon team the US sent [2] so I can't see how he meets WP:GNG either. LizardJr8 (talk) 00:03, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete We have decided that non-medaling Olympians do not get default inclusion. The other sourcing is not enough to show a passing of GNG, and so we should delete this article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:26, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I searched Newspapers.com expecting to find SIGCOV but found the coverage to be very thin. Nothing that would satisfy GNG. Cbl62 (talk) 22:08, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete my searches were no more fruitful than those above. Denman existed, but nothing to approach GNG. Star Mississippi 22:13, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Denman had the best result of the three US competitors. For some reason, the other two are not nominated for deletion. Deb (talk) 16:22, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Non sequitur WP:OSE. Unfortunately we have tens of thousands of these mass-productions without sigcov that may need to go, and they are among them. Reywas92^Talk 16:51, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - Non sequitur. Denman is the most successful of the three and there is no consensus that all stubs without sigcov have to be removed in any set period. Deb (talk) 08:52, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    - You're saying that an article that fails both GNG and the relevant SNG should be kept because... there are similar articles that are even less notable but have not been nominated first? That's a textbook example of OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Lennart97 (talk) 12:47, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Modern pentathlon at the 1952 Summer Olympics – Men's per WP:ATD. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 17:49, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per Lugnuts. In the future, I would encourage editors to simply be bold and redirect pages like this where a clear target exists rather than create a bunch of AfDs. Smartyllama (talk) 19:01, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Smartyllama - Previous efforts at cleaning up stubs using redirection have seen the redirections simply reverted by the creator. FOARP (talk) 08:24, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@FOARP: Was that before or after the changes to NOLY meant these people failed the SNG in additon to any GNG failure? I redirected a few articles from the same events as these AfDs last week for individuals where there was a clear target to redirect to (either the event, or the country if they competed in more than one event but only at one Olympics) and have not been reverted. I can understand why people would have reverted the BOLD redirects when NOLY still said they were notable though. Smartyllama (talk) 13:30, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Less Unless (talk) 07:39, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per Lugnuts. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 09:27, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Modern pentathlon at the 1952 Summer Olympics – Men's. Target requires expansion from the raw results list we have presently that fails WP:NOT. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 11:57, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Modern pentathlon at the 1952 Summer Olympics – Men's: per WP:NOPAGE. ––FormalDude talk 15:27, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per Lugnuts. AryKun (talk) 04:37, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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 *'''Redirect''' to [[Modern pentathlon at the 1952 Summer Olympics – Men's]]. Target requires expansion from the raw results list we have presently that fails [[WP:NOT]]. <sub>[[User:Wjemather|<span style="color:#0D5218">wjemather</span>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Wjemather|<span style="color:#520D0D">please leave a message...</span>]]</sup> 11:57, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
 * '''Redirect to [[ Modern pentathlon at the 1952 Summer Olympics – Men's]]''': per [[WP:NOPAGE]]. ––[[User:FormalDude|<span style="color: #0151D2">''FormalDude''</span>]] <span style="border-radius:7em;padding:2.5px 3.5px;background:#005bed;font-size:76%">[[User talk:FormalDude|<span style="color:#FFF">'''talk'''</span>]]</span> 15:27, 31 January 2022 (UTC) <!--VCB FormalDude-->
+*'''Redirect''' per Lugnuts. [[User:AryKun|AryKun]] ([[User talk:AryKun|talk]]) 04:37, 1 February 2022 (UTC)