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Oh I see [[User:Tamzin]] has struck anything I wrote there. To be fair that user has not actually deleted it, only struck it. That user is wrong that I am a sockpuppet. I moved to an IP address because of personal attacks. I do try to make it reasonably clear, in subtle ways, I am the same editor – indeed if I didn't you wouldn't have found me. I cannot be a sockpuppet of myself. The ''only'' reason I don't use my real name, which I use quite happily in real life without any problems, is that I get personal attacks on Wikipedia when I do. That's Wikipedia's problem, not mine. It was perhaps naive to think I could use my real name here, but it ''is'' my name, and apart from Simon Trew a military historian at [[RAF Sandhurst]], who has published many books, I am very identifiable just from my name. I think it is reasonable then that I don't use my real name. Most users don't. I'm the ''opposite'' of a sockpuppet in that I make it as clear as possible who I am while trying not to get personal attacks as I did this week from [[User:Redrafting]]. This has got a bit out of control now: that new user spent most of his edits in his sandbox, as he should, then for some reason unknown started to attack me. I have no idea why, he said he reverted a page, I checked every history etc and he hadn't, eventually I tracked it down but he had not reverted it, it was a one-word change in an article for grammar or something; sometimes I hit "Random article" and just see what's there and if there are minor typos etc just fix them. It was so trivial were I a registered user I would have marked as minor edit. I shouldn't be the fall guy of his well-intentioned but misguided behaviour. I did my best to point him in the right direction, politely but firmly, as any good Wikipedian would. |
Oh I see [[User:Tamzin]] has struck anything I wrote there. To be fair that user has not actually deleted it, only struck it. That user is wrong that I am a sockpuppet. I moved to an IP address because of personal attacks. I do try to make it reasonably clear, in subtle ways, I am the same editor – indeed if I didn't you wouldn't have found me. I cannot be a sockpuppet of myself. The ''only'' reason I don't use my real name, which I use quite happily in real life without any problems, is that I get personal attacks on Wikipedia when I do. That's Wikipedia's problem, not mine. It was perhaps naive to think I could use my real name here, but it ''is'' my name, and apart from Simon Trew a military historian at [[RAF Sandhurst]], who has published many books, I am very identifiable just from my name. I think it is reasonable then that I don't use my real name. Most users don't. I'm the ''opposite'' of a sockpuppet in that I make it as clear as possible who I am while trying not to get personal attacks as I did this week from [[User:Redrafting]]. This has got a bit out of control now: that new user spent most of his edits in his sandbox, as he should, then for some reason unknown started to attack me. I have no idea why, he said he reverted a page, I checked every history etc and he hadn't, eventually I tracked it down but he had not reverted it, it was a one-word change in an article for grammar or something; sometimes I hit "Random article" and just see what's there and if there are minor typos etc just fix them. It was so trivial were I a registered user I would have marked as minor edit. I shouldn't be the fall guy of his well-intentioned but misguided behaviour. I did my best to point him in the right direction, politely but firmly, as any good Wikipedian would. |
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To come clean, I did create another account, I can't even remember the user name, Spinach2021 or something (Spinach is the name of my toy monkey, named very briefly in the [[nigel molesworth]] books) but have never used it; I created it specifically not because I wanted to sockpuppet but because I was getting personal attacks from [[User:Redrafting]] and then after he "resigned" from his IP he started to use. See {{diff||1049547527|1049410471|this message at Redrafting's talk page}}, {{tq|I really don’t hate my username so changing it is out of the question. Long ago, I changed my username a lot and at the end result, I couldn’t remember my username since I changed it 8 times. I do not want to deal with this problem on a new, fresh account.}}. The Redrafting account was created on 29 September this year: perhaps this is trivial but note the bad grammar, no knowledge of [[MOS:STRAIGHT]] and so on, saying "8" instead of "eight" ([[MOS:SPELL09]]) and so on. This user has stated quite clearly he wanted a new account, has changed it eight times. I've never changed my username, I did create a new account the other day specifically to avoid his personal attacks on me, but I don't think I ever used it, but mention it here as coming with [[clean hands]]. I don't think I have ever edited on that account, I don't know the password for it, I created it because I was so angry with the personal attacks I was getting at my talk page. Look through the history of this page: {{diff||1049798246|1049567763}} where I had blanked the page so his IP was not known to all and sundry, {{diff||1049440259|1049439889|here}} where I restored a message from Redrafting that he deleted. I followed these up with polite but firm messages on his talk page. I was at no time "rude", I didn't swear, I did not make any personal accusation, I pointed him to [[WP:AGF]], [[WP:REMOVE]] etc, in short I did everything I could to guide that editor to better editing. But now that editor is banned and I am suffering the fallout of it. |
To come clean, I did create another account, I can't even remember the user name, Spinach2021 or something (Spinach is the name of my toy monkey, named very briefly in the [[nigel molesworth]] books) but have never used it; I created it specifically not because I wanted to sockpuppet but because I was getting personal attacks from [[User:Redrafting]] and then after he "resigned" from his IP he started to use. See {{diff||1049547527|1049410471|this message at Redrafting's talk page}}, {{tq|I really don’t hate my username so changing it is out of the question. Long ago, I changed my username a lot and at the end result, I couldn’t remember my username since I changed it 8 times. I do not want to deal with this problem on a new, fresh account.}}. The Redrafting account was created on 29 September this year: perhaps this is trivial but note the bad grammar, no knowledge of [[MOS:STRAIGHT]] and so on, saying "8" instead of "eight" ([[MOS:SPELL09]]) and so on. This user has stated quite clearly he wanted a new account, has changed it eight times. I've never changed my username, I did create a new account the other day specifically to avoid his personal attacks on me, but I don't think I ever used it, but mention it here as coming with [[clean hands]]. I don't think I have ever edited on that account, I don't know the password for it, I created it because I was so angry with the personal attacks I was getting at my talk page. Look through the history of this page: {{diff||1049798246|1049567763}} where I had blanked the page so his IP was not known to all and sundry, {{diff||1049440259|1049439889|here}} where I restored a message from Redrafting that he deleted}}. I followed these up with polite but firm messages on his talk page. I was at no time "rude", I didn't swear, I did not make any personal accusation, I pointed him to [[WP:AGF]], [[WP:REMOVE]] etc, in short I did everything I could to guide that editor to better editing. But now that editor is banned and I am suffering the fallout of it. |
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* {{nao}} I'm striking, hatting, or removing your RM comments because they were made in violation of a ban. There's nothing "technical" about this, and it has nothing to do with editing under your real name or not: You were [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=793501212 banned by the English Wikipedia community from editing] in 2017. [[WP:BMB|Bans apply to all editing, good and bad.]] No administrator can unblock you right now without your ban being overturned first. If you'd like to appeal your ban, your best course of action would be following the course of the [[WP:standard offer|standard offer]], which starts with going six months without editing Wikipedia (from an account or IP, overtly or covertly). You'd also need to understand why you were banned and what that ban and the previous topic ban mean. I'll say, I could be wrong about this, but I get the sense that there's a number of users who'd like to see you return someday. But that's not going to happen this way. <span class="nowrap"> <span style="font-family:courier">-- [[User:Tamzin|<span style="color:deeppink;">Tamzin</span>]]</span><sup>[''[[User talk:Tamzin|<span style="color:deeppink;">cetacean needed</span>]]'']</sup> (she/they)</span> 04:30, 16 October 2021 (UTC) |
* {{nao}} I'm striking, hatting, or removing your RM comments because they were made in violation of a ban. There's nothing "technical" about this, and it has nothing to do with editing under your real name or not: You were [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=793501212 banned by the English Wikipedia community from editing] in 2017. [[WP:BMB|Bans apply to all editing, good and bad.]] No administrator can unblock you right now without your ban being overturned first. If you'd like to appeal your ban, your best course of action would be following the course of the [[WP:standard offer|standard offer]], which starts with going six months without editing Wikipedia (from an account or IP, overtly or covertly). You'd also need to understand why you were banned and what that ban and the previous topic ban mean. I'll say, I could be wrong about this, but I get the sense that there's a number of users who'd like to see you return someday. But that's not going to happen this way. <span class="nowrap"> <span style="font-family:courier">-- [[User:Tamzin|<span style="color:deeppink;">Tamzin</span>]]</span><sup>[''[[User talk:Tamzin|<span style="color:deeppink;">cetacean needed</span>]]'']</sup> (she/they)</span> 04:30, 16 October 2021 (UTC) |
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::The were made in violation of a ban five or six years ago for making legal threats. That ban is not for anything to do with content. It was a stupid ban in the first place, I was trying to explain that just because Wikipedia is the encyclopaedia "anyone can edit" does not mean that users (registered or not) can make legal threats against others. Now I seem to be caught up in that again because of the well-meaning but misguided contributions by [[User:Redrafting]], who then went on to use an IP account. I ''deliberately'' removed his "Important" section of my talk page saying what his IP address was, as I felt him naive to go giving that out; I easily found out which ISP etc he was living at, and pointed out to him the essays about anonymous editing (that you're not really anonymous), [[WP:ANON]] etc |
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I do occasionally edit from my mobile phone, while it is in the house it connects to my WiFi and those will be under the same IP address, but I don't edit much from it. Were I trying to evade a ban I could easily switch to using its 4G internet connection – for a while. My point is that I have not been going around switching IP addresses to evade a ban. The ban was unjust in the first place.
The thing I dislike with these blocks is no valid reason is really given. I'm technically evading a block – so what? Have I made the Wikipedia better or worse? Look through my edits – yes I make slips and am hasty, but all have been made in good faith. Look at Draft:SIC (journal), I said it would take me a few days to translate that in bits and pieces, and it has done, but once I move that over I'll just copy-paste it, so the long edit history is for my benefit while drafting. Look at Template talk:Requested move, where I have found a serious bug in Module:Requested move. That conversation, like many others, I was firm I don't always say pretty please etc, but conducted in good faith by good editors on all sides, nobody was "blaming" anyone.
Over the last few days I have had personal attacks from User:Redrafting and then that person using an IP address. I do not know why they picked on me, since I never saw that user at any page I ever visited, but they kept mucking arouond with the this page. I know technically I don't "own" this page but it's fairly well established what one can and cannot do at others' talk pages.
Even if I made a mistake four or five years ago, an "indefinite" ban was way too harsh. It is very difficult – practically impossible – to appeal it. If you deny the unblock, bang goes any form of appeal from me, so basically I am damned in eternity. That is not how Wikipedia "the encyclopaedia that anyone can edit", is supposed to work. I appreciate tht is not carte blanche to edit it badly – and leaving aside slips I do with every edit try to make it better – but as I said five years ago, what it means nowadays in practice is "the encyclopaedia that some people can edit". And that's a pity.
I live in Hungary, so I have a lot better knowledge of many Hungarian topics than other editors. I don't edit Hungarian articles much, but often they are written by Hungarians and the wording is not very natural. So I have a special privilege – and obligation – to inform about language differences and so on, as I've done at the discussion about titles with diacritics, Talk:Sobibór_(village)#Requested_move_30_September_2021, again a discussion carried out with respect by all editors contributing to it, as it should be: I ssaid so there, it is a pleasure to see it.
Because I speak several languages and am an "immigrant" it also informs me, indirectly, about how to keep WP:NPOV. Because I hear three or four languages daily, I'm perhaps more attuned to common mistakes or where the English will confuse someone who has English as a second or third language, and where people make common errors in trying to speak English. I don't insult them for it, I am very proud that people want to learn my first language, and it makes them proud that I am trying to learn Hungarian. It's mutual respect. As Wikipedia should be.
Oh I see User:Tamzin has struck anything I wrote there. To be fair that user has not actually deleted it, only struck it. That user is wrong that I am a sockpuppet. I moved to an IP address because of personal attacks. I do try to make it reasonably clear, in subtle ways, I am the same editor – indeed if I didn't you wouldn't have found me. I cannot be a sockpuppet of myself. The only reason I don't use my real name, which I use quite happily in real life without any problems, is that I get personal attacks on Wikipedia when I do. That's Wikipedia's problem, not mine. It was perhaps naive to think I could use my real name here, but it is my name, and apart from Simon Trew a military historian at RAF Sandhurst, who has published many books, I am very identifiable just from my name. I think it is reasonable then that I don't use my real name. Most users don't. I'm the opposite of a sockpuppet in that I make it as clear as possible who I am while trying not to get personal attacks as I did this week from User:Redrafting. This has got a bit out of control now: that new user spent most of his edits in his sandbox, as he should, then for some reason unknown started to attack me. I have no idea why, he said he reverted a page, I checked every history etc and he hadn't, eventually I tracked it down but he had not reverted it, it was a one-word change in an article for grammar or something; sometimes I hit "Random article" and just see what's there and if there are minor typos etc just fix them. It was so trivial were I a registered user I would have marked as minor edit. I shouldn't be the fall guy of his well-intentioned but misguided behaviour. I did my best to point him in the right direction, politely but firmly, as any good Wikipedian would.
To come clean, I did create another account, I can't even remember the user name, Spinach2021 or something (Spinach is the name of my toy monkey, named very briefly in the nigel molesworth books) but have never used it; I created it specifically not because I wanted to sockpuppet but because I was getting personal attacks from User:Redrafting and then after he "resigned" from his IP he started to use. See this message at Redrafting's talk page,I really don’t hate my username so changing it is out of the question. Long ago, I changed my username a lot and at the end result, I couldn’t remember my username since I changed it 8 times. I do not want to deal with this problem on a new, fresh account.. The Redrafting account was created on 29 September this year: perhaps this is trivial but note the bad grammar, no knowledge of MOS:STRAIGHT and so on, saying "8" instead of "eight" (MOS:SPELL09) and so on. This user has stated quite clearly he wanted a new account, has changed it eight times. I've never changed my username, I did create a new account the other day specifically to avoid his personal attacks on me, but I don't think I ever used it, but mention it here as coming with clean hands. I don't think I have ever edited on that account, I don't know the password for it, I created it because I was so angry with the personal attacks I was getting at my talk page. Look through the history of this page: [1] where I had blanked the page so his IP was not known to all and sundry, here where I restored a message from Redrafting that he deleted
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{{Unblock on hold |1=blocking administrator |2=Well that is a bit of a surprise. As under [[User:SimonTrew]] I was blocked several years ago, for making legal threats. I wasn't making any legal threats even at that time, but pointing out that since I was using my real name ("Simon Trew") some remarks made to me (not by [[User:Tavix]] who has blocked me now) were personal attacks, not just on Wikipedia but in real life. My name is not unique, but very rare and it ''is'' unique in Hungary, I am the only Simon Trew in Hungary, as "Trew" is not a surname here. So very easily anyone could find out who i was and where I lived, and I ''was'' getting threats like that, so I switched to IP editing. As it happens, my IP address is very stable (if you click through the lookup it says "Probably static", and I imagine it is, since I don't even need a password on my modem so it's not doing a DHCP request to connect). I have not pretended to be anyone other than me, but I was getting personal attacks and threats on the [[User:SimonTrew]] account and for some time just abandoned WIkipedia. I do occasionally edit from my mobile phone, while it is in the house it connects to my WiFi and those will be under the same IP address, but I don't edit much from it. Were I trying to evade a ban I could easily switch to using its 4G internet connection – for a while. My point is that I ''have not'' been going around switching IP addresses to evade a ban. The ban was unjust in the first place. The thing I dislike with these blocks is no valid reason is really given. I'm technically evading a block – so what? Have I made the Wikipedia better or worse? Look through my edits – yes I make slips and am hasty, but all have been made in good faith. Look at [[Draft:SIC (journal)]], I said it would take me a few days to translate that in bits and pieces, and it has done, but once I move that over I'll just copy-paste it, so the long edit history is for my benefit while drafting. Look at [[Template talk:Requested move]], where I have found a serious bug in [[Module:Requested move]]. That conversation, like many others, I was firm I don't always say ''pretty please'' etc, but conducted in good faith by good editors on all sides, nobody was "blaming" anyone. Over the last few days I have had personal attacks from [[User:Redrafting]] and then that person using an IP address. I do not know why they picked on me, since I never saw that user at any page I ever visited, but they kept mucking arouond with the this page. I know technically I don't "own" this page but it's fairly well established what one can and cannot do at others' talk pages. Even if I made a mistake four or five years ago, an "indefinite" ban was way too harsh. It is very difficult – practically impossible – to appeal it. If you deny the unblock, bang goes any form of appeal from me, so basically I am damned in eternity. That is not how Wikipedia "the encyclopaedia that anyone can edit", is supposed to work. I appreciate tht is not carte blanche to edit it badly – and leaving aside slips I do with every edit try to make it better – but as I said five years ago, what it means nowadays in practice is "the encyclopaedia that some people can edit". And that's a pity. I live in Hungary, so I have a lot better knowledge of many Hungarian topics than other editors. I don't edit Hungarian articles much, but often they are written by Hungarians and the wording is not very natural. So I have a special privilege – and obligation – to inform about language differences and so on, as I've done at the discussion about titles with diacritics, [[Talk:Sobibór_(village)#Requested_move_30_September_2021]], again a discussion carried out with respect by all editors contributing to it, as it should be: I ssaid so there, it is a pleasure to see it. Because I speak several languages and am an "immigrant" it also informs me, indirectly, about how to keep [[WP:NPOV]]. Because I hear three or four languages daily, I'm perhaps more attuned to common mistakes or where the English will confuse someone who has English as a second or third language, and where people make common errors in trying to speak English. I don't insult them for it, I am very proud that people want to learn my first language, and it makes them proud that I am trying to learn Hungarian. It's mutual respect. As Wikipedia should be. Oh I see [[User:Tamzin]] has struck anything I wrote there. To be fair that user has not actually deleted it, only struck it. That user is wrong that I am a sockpuppet. I moved to an IP address because of personal attacks. I do try to make it reasonably clear, in subtle ways, I am the same editor – indeed if I didn't you wouldn't have found me. I cannot be a sockpuppet of myself. The ''only'' reason I don't use my real name, which I use quite happily in real life without any problems, is that I get personal attacks on Wikipedia when I do. That's Wikipedia's problem, not mine. It was perhaps naive to think I could use my real name here, but it ''is'' my name, and apart from Simon Trew a military historian at [[RAF Sandhurst]], who has published many books, I am very identifiable just from my name. I think it is reasonable then that I don't use my real name. Most users don't. I'm the ''opposite'' of a sockpuppet in that I make it as clear as possible who I am while trying not to get personal attacks as I did this week from [[User:Redrafting]]. This has got a bit out of control now: that new user spent most of his edits in his sandbox, as he should, then for some reason unknown started to attack me. I have no idea why, he said he reverted a page, I checked every history etc and he hadn't, eventually I tracked it down but he had not reverted it, it was a one-word change in an article for grammar or something; sometimes I hit "Random article" and just see what's there and if there are minor typos etc just fix them. It was so trivial were I a registered user I would have marked as minor edit. I shouldn't be the fall guy of his well-intentioned but misguided behaviour. I did my best to point him in the right direction, politely but firmly, as any good Wikipedian would. To come clean, I did create another account, I can't even remember the user name, Spinach2021 or something (Spinach is the name of my toy monkey, named very briefly in the [[nigel molesworth]] books) but have never used it; I created it specifically not because I wanted to sockpuppet but because I was getting personal attacks from [[User:Redrafting]] and then after he "resigned" from his IP he started to use. See <span class="plainlinks">[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&diff=1049547527&oldid=1049410471 this message at Redrafting's talk page]</span>, <q class="inline-quote-talk ">I really don’t hate my username so changing it is out of the question. Long ago, I changed my username a lot and at the end result, I couldn’t remember my username since I changed it 8 times. I do not want to deal with this problem on a new, fresh account.</q>. The Redrafting account was created on 29 September this year: perhaps this is trivial but note the bad grammar, no knowledge of [[MOS:STRAIGHT]] and so on, saying "8" instead of "eight" ([[MOS:SPELL09]]) and so on. This user has stated quite clearly he wanted a new account, has changed it eight times. I've never changed my username, I did create a new account the other day specifically to avoid his personal attacks on me, but I don't think I ever used it, but mention it here as coming with [[clean hands]]. I don't think I have ever edited on that account, I don't know the password for it, I created it because I was so angry with the personal attacks I was getting at my talk page. Look through the history of this page: <span class="plainlinks">[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&diff=1049798246&oldid=1049567763 ]</span> where I had blanked the page so his IP was not known to all and sundry, <span class="plainlinks">[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&diff=1049440259&oldid=1049439889 here]</span> where I restored a message from Redrafting that he deleted |3 = ~~~~}}
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{{unblock reviewed |1=Well that is a bit of a surprise. As under [[User:SimonTrew]] I was blocked several years ago, for making legal threats. I wasn't making any legal threats even at that time, but pointing out that since I was using my real name ("Simon Trew") some remarks made to me (not by [[User:Tavix]] who has blocked me now) were personal attacks, not just on Wikipedia but in real life. My name is not unique, but very rare and it ''is'' unique in Hungary, I am the only Simon Trew in Hungary, as "Trew" is not a surname here. So very easily anyone could find out who i was and where I lived, and I ''was'' getting threats like that, so I switched to IP editing. As it happens, my IP address is very stable (if you click through the lookup it says "Probably static", and I imagine it is, since I don't even need a password on my modem so it's not doing a DHCP request to connect). I have not pretended to be anyone other than me, but I was getting personal attacks and threats on the [[User:SimonTrew]] account and for some time just abandoned WIkipedia. I do occasionally edit from my mobile phone, while it is in the house it connects to my WiFi and those will be under the same IP address, but I don't edit much from it. Were I trying to evade a ban I could easily switch to using its 4G internet connection – for a while. My point is that I ''have not'' been going around switching IP addresses to evade a ban. The ban was unjust in the first place. The thing I dislike with these blocks is no valid reason is really given. I'm technically evading a block – so what? Have I made the Wikipedia better or worse? Look through my edits – yes I make slips and am hasty, but all have been made in good faith. Look at [[Draft:SIC (journal)]], I said it would take me a few days to translate that in bits and pieces, and it has done, but once I move that over I'll just copy-paste it, so the long edit history is for my benefit while drafting. Look at [[Template talk:Requested move]], where I have found a serious bug in [[Module:Requested move]]. That conversation, like many others, I was firm I don't always say ''pretty please'' etc, but conducted in good faith by good editors on all sides, nobody was "blaming" anyone. Over the last few days I have had personal attacks from [[User:Redrafting]] and then that person using an IP address. I do not know why they picked on me, since I never saw that user at any page I ever visited, but they kept mucking arouond with the this page. I know technically I don't "own" this page but it's fairly well established what one can and cannot do at others' talk pages. Even if I made a mistake four or five years ago, an "indefinite" ban was way too harsh. It is very difficult – practically impossible – to appeal it. If you deny the unblock, bang goes any form of appeal from me, so basically I am damned in eternity. That is not how Wikipedia "the encyclopaedia that anyone can edit", is supposed to work. I appreciate tht is not carte blanche to edit it badly – and leaving aside slips I do with every edit try to make it better – but as I said five years ago, what it means nowadays in practice is "the encyclopaedia that some people can edit". And that's a pity. I live in Hungary, so I have a lot better knowledge of many Hungarian topics than other editors. I don't edit Hungarian articles much, but often they are written by Hungarians and the wording is not very natural. So I have a special privilege – and obligation – to inform about language differences and so on, as I've done at the discussion about titles with diacritics, [[Talk:Sobibór_(village)#Requested_move_30_September_2021]], again a discussion carried out with respect by all editors contributing to it, as it should be: I ssaid so there, it is a pleasure to see it. Because I speak several languages and am an "immigrant" it also informs me, indirectly, about how to keep [[WP:NPOV]]. Because I hear three or four languages daily, I'm perhaps more attuned to common mistakes or where the English will confuse someone who has English as a second or third language, and where people make common errors in trying to speak English. I don't insult them for it, I am very proud that people want to learn my first language, and it makes them proud that I am trying to learn Hungarian. It's mutual respect. As Wikipedia should be. Oh I see [[User:Tamzin]] has struck anything I wrote there. To be fair that user has not actually deleted it, only struck it. That user is wrong that I am a sockpuppet. I moved to an IP address because of personal attacks. I do try to make it reasonably clear, in subtle ways, I am the same editor – indeed if I didn't you wouldn't have found me. I cannot be a sockpuppet of myself. The ''only'' reason I don't use my real name, which I use quite happily in real life without any problems, is that I get personal attacks on Wikipedia when I do. That's Wikipedia's problem, not mine. It was perhaps naive to think I could use my real name here, but it ''is'' my name, and apart from Simon Trew a military historian at [[RAF Sandhurst]], who has published many books, I am very identifiable just from my name. I think it is reasonable then that I don't use my real name. Most users don't. I'm the ''opposite'' of a sockpuppet in that I make it as clear as possible who I am while trying not to get personal attacks as I did this week from [[User:Redrafting]]. This has got a bit out of control now: that new user spent most of his edits in his sandbox, as he should, then for some reason unknown started to attack me. I have no idea why, he said he reverted a page, I checked every history etc and he hadn't, eventually I tracked it down but he had not reverted it, it was a one-word change in an article for grammar or something; sometimes I hit "Random article" and just see what's there and if there are minor typos etc just fix them. It was so trivial were I a registered user I would have marked as minor edit. I shouldn't be the fall guy of his well-intentioned but misguided behaviour. I did my best to point him in the right direction, politely but firmly, as any good Wikipedian would. To come clean, I did create another account, I can't even remember the user name, Spinach2021 or something (Spinach is the name of my toy monkey, named very briefly in the [[nigel molesworth]] books) but have never used it; I created it specifically not because I wanted to sockpuppet but because I was getting personal attacks from [[User:Redrafting]] and then after he "resigned" from his IP he started to use. See <span class="plainlinks">[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&diff=1049547527&oldid=1049410471 this message at Redrafting's talk page]</span>, <q class="inline-quote-talk ">I really don’t hate my username so changing it is out of the question. Long ago, I changed my username a lot and at the end result, I couldn’t remember my username since I changed it 8 times. I do not want to deal with this problem on a new, fresh account.</q>. The Redrafting account was created on 29 September this year: perhaps this is trivial but note the bad grammar, no knowledge of [[MOS:STRAIGHT]] and so on, saying "8" instead of "eight" ([[MOS:SPELL09]]) and so on. This user has stated quite clearly he wanted a new account, has changed it eight times. I've never changed my username, I did create a new account the other day specifically to avoid his personal attacks on me, but I don't think I ever used it, but mention it here as coming with [[clean hands]]. I don't think I have ever edited on that account, I don't know the password for it, I created it because I was so angry with the personal attacks I was getting at my talk page. Look through the history of this page: <span class="plainlinks">[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&diff=1049798246&oldid=1049567763 ]</span> where I had blanked the page so his IP was not known to all and sundry, <span class="plainlinks">[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&diff=1049440259&oldid=1049439889 here]</span> where I restored a message from Redrafting that he deleted |decline = {{subst:Decline reason here}} ~~~~}}
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{{unblock reviewed |1=Well that is a bit of a surprise. As under [[User:SimonTrew]] I was blocked several years ago, for making legal threats. I wasn't making any legal threats even at that time, but pointing out that since I was using my real name ("Simon Trew") some remarks made to me (not by [[User:Tavix]] who has blocked me now) were personal attacks, not just on Wikipedia but in real life. My name is not unique, but very rare and it ''is'' unique in Hungary, I am the only Simon Trew in Hungary, as "Trew" is not a surname here. So very easily anyone could find out who i was and where I lived, and I ''was'' getting threats like that, so I switched to IP editing. As it happens, my IP address is very stable (if you click through the lookup it says "Probably static", and I imagine it is, since I don't even need a password on my modem so it's not doing a DHCP request to connect). I have not pretended to be anyone other than me, but I was getting personal attacks and threats on the [[User:SimonTrew]] account and for some time just abandoned WIkipedia. I do occasionally edit from my mobile phone, while it is in the house it connects to my WiFi and those will be under the same IP address, but I don't edit much from it. Were I trying to evade a ban I could easily switch to using its 4G internet connection – for a while. My point is that I ''have not'' been going around switching IP addresses to evade a ban. The ban was unjust in the first place. The thing I dislike with these blocks is no valid reason is really given. I'm technically evading a block – so what? Have I made the Wikipedia better or worse? Look through my edits – yes I make slips and am hasty, but all have been made in good faith. Look at [[Draft:SIC (journal)]], I said it would take me a few days to translate that in bits and pieces, and it has done, but once I move that over I'll just copy-paste it, so the long edit history is for my benefit while drafting. Look at [[Template talk:Requested move]], where I have found a serious bug in [[Module:Requested move]]. That conversation, like many others, I was firm I don't always say ''pretty please'' etc, but conducted in good faith by good editors on all sides, nobody was "blaming" anyone. Over the last few days I have had personal attacks from [[User:Redrafting]] and then that person using an IP address. I do not know why they picked on me, since I never saw that user at any page I ever visited, but they kept mucking arouond with the this page. I know technically I don't "own" this page but it's fairly well established what one can and cannot do at others' talk pages. Even if I made a mistake four or five years ago, an "indefinite" ban was way too harsh. It is very difficult – practically impossible – to appeal it. If you deny the unblock, bang goes any form of appeal from me, so basically I am damned in eternity. That is not how Wikipedia "the encyclopaedia that anyone can edit", is supposed to work. I appreciate tht is not carte blanche to edit it badly – and leaving aside slips I do with every edit try to make it better – but as I said five years ago, what it means nowadays in practice is "the encyclopaedia that some people can edit". And that's a pity. I live in Hungary, so I have a lot better knowledge of many Hungarian topics than other editors. I don't edit Hungarian articles much, but often they are written by Hungarians and the wording is not very natural. So I have a special privilege – and obligation – to inform about language differences and so on, as I've done at the discussion about titles with diacritics, [[Talk:Sobibór_(village)#Requested_move_30_September_2021]], again a discussion carried out with respect by all editors contributing to it, as it should be: I ssaid so there, it is a pleasure to see it. Because I speak several languages and am an "immigrant" it also informs me, indirectly, about how to keep [[WP:NPOV]]. Because I hear three or four languages daily, I'm perhaps more attuned to common mistakes or where the English will confuse someone who has English as a second or third language, and where people make common errors in trying to speak English. I don't insult them for it, I am very proud that people want to learn my first language, and it makes them proud that I am trying to learn Hungarian. It's mutual respect. As Wikipedia should be. Oh I see [[User:Tamzin]] has struck anything I wrote there. To be fair that user has not actually deleted it, only struck it. That user is wrong that I am a sockpuppet. I moved to an IP address because of personal attacks. I do try to make it reasonably clear, in subtle ways, I am the same editor – indeed if I didn't you wouldn't have found me. I cannot be a sockpuppet of myself. The ''only'' reason I don't use my real name, which I use quite happily in real life without any problems, is that I get personal attacks on Wikipedia when I do. That's Wikipedia's problem, not mine. It was perhaps naive to think I could use my real name here, but it ''is'' my name, and apart from Simon Trew a military historian at [[RAF Sandhurst]], who has published many books, I am very identifiable just from my name. I think it is reasonable then that I don't use my real name. Most users don't. I'm the ''opposite'' of a sockpuppet in that I make it as clear as possible who I am while trying not to get personal attacks as I did this week from [[User:Redrafting]]. This has got a bit out of control now: that new user spent most of his edits in his sandbox, as he should, then for some reason unknown started to attack me. I have no idea why, he said he reverted a page, I checked every history etc and he hadn't, eventually I tracked it down but he had not reverted it, it was a one-word change in an article for grammar or something; sometimes I hit "Random article" and just see what's there and if there are minor typos etc just fix them. It was so trivial were I a registered user I would have marked as minor edit. I shouldn't be the fall guy of his well-intentioned but misguided behaviour. I did my best to point him in the right direction, politely but firmly, as any good Wikipedian would. To come clean, I did create another account, I can't even remember the user name, Spinach2021 or something (Spinach is the name of my toy monkey, named very briefly in the [[nigel molesworth]] books) but have never used it; I created it specifically not because I wanted to sockpuppet but because I was getting personal attacks from [[User:Redrafting]] and then after he "resigned" from his IP he started to use. See <span class="plainlinks">[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&diff=1049547527&oldid=1049410471 this message at Redrafting's talk page]</span>, <q class="inline-quote-talk ">I really don’t hate my username so changing it is out of the question. Long ago, I changed my username a lot and at the end result, I couldn’t remember my username since I changed it 8 times. I do not want to deal with this problem on a new, fresh account.</q>. The Redrafting account was created on 29 September this year: perhaps this is trivial but note the bad grammar, no knowledge of [[MOS:STRAIGHT]] and so on, saying "8" instead of "eight" ([[MOS:SPELL09]]) and so on. This user has stated quite clearly he wanted a new account, has changed it eight times. I've never changed my username, I did create a new account the other day specifically to avoid his personal attacks on me, but I don't think I ever used it, but mention it here as coming with [[clean hands]]. I don't think I have ever edited on that account, I don't know the password for it, I created it because I was so angry with the personal attacks I was getting at my talk page. Look through the history of this page: <span class="plainlinks">[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&diff=1049798246&oldid=1049567763 ]</span> where I had blanked the page so his IP was not known to all and sundry, <span class="plainlinks">[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&diff=1049440259&oldid=1049439889 here]</span> where I restored a message from Redrafting that he deleted |accept = accept reason here ~~~~}}
. I followed these up with polite but firm messages on his talk page. I was at no time "rude", I didn't swear, I did not make any personal accusation, I pointed him to WP:AGF, WP:REMOVE etc, in short I did everything I could to guide that editor to better editing. But now that editor is banned and I am suffering the fallout of it.
Frankly that's unfair.
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- (Non-administrator comment) I'm striking, hatting, or removing your RM comments because they were made in violation of a ban. There's nothing "technical" about this, and it has nothing to do with editing under your real name or not: You were banned by the English Wikipedia community from editing in 2017. Bans apply to all editing, good and bad. No administrator can unblock you right now without your ban being overturned first. If you'd like to appeal your ban, your best course of action would be following the course of the standard offer, which starts with going six months without editing Wikipedia (from an account or IP, overtly or covertly). You'd also need to understand why you were banned and what that ban and the previous topic ban mean. I'll say, I could be wrong about this, but I get the sense that there's a number of users who'd like to see you return someday. But that's not going to happen this way. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 04:30, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
- The were made in violation of a ban five or six years ago for making legal threats. That ban is not for anything to do with content. It was a stupid ban in the first place, I was trying to explain that just because Wikipedia is the encyclopaedia "anyone can edit" does not mean that users (registered or not) can make legal threats against others. Now I seem to be caught up in that again because of the well-meaning but misguided contributions by User:Redrafting, who then went on to use an IP account. I deliberately removed his "Important" section of my talk page saying what his IP address was, as I felt him naive to go giving that out; I easily found out which ISP etc he was living at, and pointed out to him the essays about anonymous editing (that you're not really anonymous), WP:ANON etc