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== Peter Wright allegations ==
== Peter Wright allegations ==
If the article continues to include a list of accused "5th men", it should include Roger Hollis in the list. The academic consensus today is that Wright's allegation against Hollis was false, and the article should say so. But the accuracy of Wright's information about other then-secret information (e.g. Venona) still makes Wright a formidable reference in this shadowy subject area. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/50.43.43.48|50.43.43.48]] ([[User talk:50.43.43.48|talk]]) 05:42, 19 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
If the article continues to include a list of accused "5th men", it should include Roger Hollis in the list. The academic consensus today is that Wright's allegation against Hollis was false, and the article should say so. But the accuracy of Wright's information about other then-secret information (e.g. Venona) still makes Wright a formidable reference in this shadowy subject area. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/50.43.43.48|50.43.43.48]] ([[User talk:50.43.43.48|talk]]) 05:42, 19 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

::The Wikipedia article on Roger Hollis explores the allegations against Hollis.

::Reading it, it seems the consensus is a bit less firm than Cambridge alumni would like. It seems there is evidence, but there was never a proper investigation. I agree Hollis should be mentioned. But I think the truth or fallacy Hollis's involvement will remain a mystery because the 'powers that were' prevented a proper timely and thorough investigation. That is the thing with powers preventing investigations. It prevents conviction, but it also prevents exoneration. So we're left with a mystery. "Unproven allegations" might be a possible term for it and then a link to the article on Hollis. [[Roger_Hollis|https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Hollis]] [[Special:Contributions/50.71.210.133|50.71.210.133]] ([[User talk:50.71.210.133|talk]]) 04:38, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

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Peter Wright allegations

If the article continues to include a list of accused "5th men", it should include Roger Hollis in the list. The academic consensus today is that Wright's allegation against Hollis was false, and the article should say so. But the accuracy of Wright's information about other then-secret information (e.g. Venona) still makes Wright a formidable reference in this shadowy subject area. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.43.43.48 (talk) 05:42, 19 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Wikipedia article on Roger Hollis explores the allegations against Hollis.
Reading it, it seems the consensus is a bit less firm than Cambridge alumni would like. It seems there is evidence, but there was never a proper investigation. I agree Hollis should be mentioned. But I think the truth or fallacy Hollis's involvement will remain a mystery because the 'powers that were' prevented a proper timely and thorough investigation. That is the thing with powers preventing investigations. It prevents conviction, but it also prevents exoneration. So we're left with a mystery. "Unproven allegations" might be a possible term for it and then a link to the article on Hollis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Hollis 50.71.210.133 (talk) 04:38, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]