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==Rain Tree== |
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The article first says that the epithet derives from the leaves folding during rain (how?), then it says it's due (accidental pun!) to the moisture that collects under them, including that produced by cicadas. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/75.72.206.153|75.72.206.153]] ([[User talk:75.72.206.153|talk]]) 05:55, 12 May 2016 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
The article first says that the epithet derives from the leaves folding during rain (how?), then it says it's due (accidental pun!) to the moisture that collects under them, including that produced by cicadas. <small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/75.72.206.153|75.72.206.153]] ([[User talk:75.72.206.153|talk]]) 05:55, 12 May 2016 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Gallery == |
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Isn't the gallery excessive, showing several photos of the same three? Please prune! ;-) --[[User:Janke|Janke]] | [[User talk:Janke|Talk]] 11:32, 22 October 2018 (UTC) |
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== Image from this article to appear as POTD soon == |
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Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that [[:File:Flooded Albizia Saman (rain tree) in the Mekong.jpg]] will be appearing as [[Wikipedia:picture of the day|picture of the day]] on {{date|2019-01-25}}. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at [[Template:POTD/2019-01-25]]. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the [[Main Page]]. Thanks — [[User:Amakuru|Amakuru]] ([[User talk:Amakuru|talk]]) 17:15, 16 January 2019 (UTC) |
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== Merge Discussion == |
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Frankly, I cannot figure out why [[Chankiri Tree]] is a separate article. It refers to the same plant under a different name and one uh, particularly grotesque, application. It seems amis leave out those names and that history from the [[Samanea saman]] article, and the biological info from the first - therefore I'd say the articles have an almost identical scope and should be merged. --[[User:Paul Carpenter|Paul Carpenter]] ([[User talk:Paul Carpenter|talk]]) 15:37, 26 September 2020 (UTC) |
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:'''Support''': It's actually not all that badly written, but it is an entirely redundant article. The stuff about smashing children to death ... grotesque indeed, and largely trivial. I can't say I have much experience in this regard, but I assume any large tree (or rock, or wall, or car bonnet) would do the trick. We can have a sentence about it being a common tree in Cambodia, and I'm not adverse to adding the local name to that sentence and explaining the Hindu significance of the philology of ''chankiri'' (aren't they Buddhist in Cambodia?), but that is all the info that I think should be maintained after the merge. Frankly, I think the entire article should be deleted, without even a real merge -this because the name "Chankiri Tree" doesn't exist, it's an unsourced invention/semi-calque by a Wikipedia editor. People in Cambodia use their own script, and don't use English words like "tree". [[User:Leo Breman|Leo Breman]] ([[User talk:Leo Breman|talk]]) 14:08, 1 October 2020 (UTC) |
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:'''Support''': No reason to have a separate article and I think [[User:Leo Breman|Leo Breman]] is largely right about what is worth keeping from [[Chankiri Tree]]. [[User:Kingdon|Kingdon]] ([[User talk:Kingdon|talk]]) 04:26, 2 October 2020 (UTC) |
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=== No === |
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It should not be merged, they both talk about different things, '''the killing tree article talks about the deaths of infants whos heads were smashed against the tree''', it only gives you a small detail to the tree to understand why they did it at that specific location, while the samanea saman article is a nature bio article which just simply shares facts about this species of tree, both talk about different points, so it is only safe to say that they should remain separated, '''the killing tree article is vital to share the deaths of the poor infants who were executed in Cambodia''', in a way, its a memorial, and you want to merge it with a stupid nature bio article, they are two different things. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/50.201.30.158|50.201.30.158]] ([[User talk:50.201.30.158#top|talk]]) 17:10, 12 October 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Well, this has persuaded me to go ahead with the merge. Wikipedia [[WP:MEMORIAL|is not a memorial]] and it'd be an insultingly crummy one in this case if it was. I'll get to work on merging the articles shortly. --[[:User:Paul Carpenter|Paul]] ❬[[:User talk:Paul Carpenter|talk]]❭ 15:01, 14 October 2020 (UTC) |
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== Move discussion July 2022 == |
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There is a move discussion in progress on [[Talk:Chankiri Tree#Requested move 28 July 2022|Talk:Chankiri Tree]] which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. <!-- Talk:Chankiri Tree#Requested move 28 July 2022 crosspost --> —[[User:RMCD bot|RMCD bot]] 22:48, 28 July 2022 (UTC) |
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Rain Tree
[edit]The article first says that the epithet derives from the leaves folding during rain (how?), then it says it's due (accidental pun!) to the moisture that collects under them, including that produced by cicadas. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.206.153 (talk) 05:55, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
Gallery
[edit]Isn't the gallery excessive, showing several photos of the same three? Please prune! ;-) --Janke | Talk 11:32, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
Image from this article to appear as POTD soon
[edit]Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:Flooded Albizia Saman (rain tree) in the Mekong.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on 25 January 2019. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2019-01-25. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. Thanks — Amakuru (talk) 17:15, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
Merge Discussion
[edit]Frankly, I cannot figure out why Chankiri Tree is a separate article. It refers to the same plant under a different name and one uh, particularly grotesque, application. It seems amis leave out those names and that history from the Samanea saman article, and the biological info from the first - therefore I'd say the articles have an almost identical scope and should be merged. --Paul Carpenter (talk) 15:37, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
- Support: It's actually not all that badly written, but it is an entirely redundant article. The stuff about smashing children to death ... grotesque indeed, and largely trivial. I can't say I have much experience in this regard, but I assume any large tree (or rock, or wall, or car bonnet) would do the trick. We can have a sentence about it being a common tree in Cambodia, and I'm not adverse to adding the local name to that sentence and explaining the Hindu significance of the philology of chankiri (aren't they Buddhist in Cambodia?), but that is all the info that I think should be maintained after the merge. Frankly, I think the entire article should be deleted, without even a real merge -this because the name "Chankiri Tree" doesn't exist, it's an unsourced invention/semi-calque by a Wikipedia editor. People in Cambodia use their own script, and don't use English words like "tree". Leo Breman (talk) 14:08, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
- Support: No reason to have a separate article and I think Leo Breman is largely right about what is worth keeping from Chankiri Tree. Kingdon (talk) 04:26, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
No
[edit]It should not be merged, they both talk about different things, the killing tree article talks about the deaths of infants whos heads were smashed against the tree, it only gives you a small detail to the tree to understand why they did it at that specific location, while the samanea saman article is a nature bio article which just simply shares facts about this species of tree, both talk about different points, so it is only safe to say that they should remain separated, the killing tree article is vital to share the deaths of the poor infants who were executed in Cambodia, in a way, its a memorial, and you want to merge it with a stupid nature bio article, they are two different things. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.201.30.158 (talk) 17:10, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
- Well, this has persuaded me to go ahead with the merge. Wikipedia is not a memorial and it'd be an insultingly crummy one in this case if it was. I'll get to work on merging the articles shortly. --Paul ❬talk❭ 15:01, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
Move discussion July 2022
[edit]There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Chankiri Tree which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 22:48, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
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