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The result was Delete. --MelanieN (talk) 23:49, 9 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ronan Edwards

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This person does not appear to have been notable, assuming they actually existed. I have found (and added) a source that mentions someone by that name who appears to have founded the Irish Soccer Academy, but I could find no mention anywhere of a Ronan Edwards who played for the Shamrock Rovers or coached for St. Patrick's Athletic FC. In short, this article appears to be either a hoax or unverifiable, and so should be deleted. Everymorning talk 20:32, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Everymorning talk 20:34, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Everymorning talk 20:34, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. Everymorning talk 20:34, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:25, 4 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - no evidence of notability, fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 12:35, 5 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, this may be a candidate for speedy deletion if the content isn't significantly different from the version deleted at AFD in 2010. Hack (talk) 13:37, 5 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The subject may or may not be authentic, but the playing career is a partial or total hoax. UEFA records show that Shamrock Rovers has never played Newcastle United F.C. in a European competition in 2002 or in any other year. Moreover, if almost any player had sustained a career-ending injury through a bad foul by a former captain of the England national football team, there would be many references to the incident. None exists. The supposed first goal against St. James's Gate F.C. in the 1999-2000 season could not have happened, because the latter club was not in the league that year (see RSSSF records [1] for 1999/2000). This looks like an elaborate hoax. Calamondin12 (talk) 16:05, 5 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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-This person does not appear to have been notable, assuming they actually existed. I have found (and added) a source that mentions someone by that name who appears to have founded the Irish Soccer Academy, but I could find no mention anywhere of a Ronan Edwards who played for the Shamrock Rovers or coached for St. Patrick's Athletic FC. In short, this article appears to be either a hoax or unverifiable, and so should be deleted. [[User:Everymorning|<font color="orange">Everymorning</font>]] [[User talk:Everymorning|<font color="green">talk</font>]] 20:32, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
+This person does not appear to have been notable, assuming they actually existed. I have found (and added) a source that mentions someone by that name who appears to have founded the Irish Soccer Academy, but I could find no mention anywhere of a Ronan Edwards who played for the Shamrock Rovers or coached for St. Patrick's Athletic FC. In short, this article appears to be either a hoax or unverifiable, and so should be deleted. [[User:Everymorning|<span style="color:orange;">Everymorning</span>]] [[User talk:Everymorning|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]] 20:32, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
-:<small class="delsort-notice">Note:  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Sportspeople|list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Everymorning|<font color="orange">Everymorning</font>]] [[User talk:Everymorning|<font color="green">talk</font>]] 20:34, 2 April 2015 (UTC)</small>
+:<small class="delsort-notice">Note:  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Sportspeople|list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Everymorning|<span style="color:orange;">Everymorning</span>]] [[User talk:Everymorning|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]] 20:34, 2 April 2015 (UTC)</small>
-:<small class="delsort-notice">Note:  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Football|list of Football-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Everymorning|<font color="orange">Everymorning</font>]] [[User talk:Everymorning|<font color="green">talk</font>]] 20:34, 2 April 2015 (UTC)</small>
+:<small class="delsort-notice">Note:  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Football|list of Football-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Everymorning|<span style="color:orange;">Everymorning</span>]] [[User talk:Everymorning|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]] 20:34, 2 April 2015 (UTC)</small>
-:<small class="delsort-notice">Note:  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Ireland|list of Ireland-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Everymorning|<font color="orange">Everymorning</font>]] [[User talk:Everymorning|<font color="green">talk</font>]] 20:34, 2 April 2015 (UTC)</small>
+:<small class="delsort-notice">Note:  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Ireland|list of Ireland-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Everymorning|<span style="color:orange;">Everymorning</span>]] [[User talk:Everymorning|<span style="color:green;">talk</span>]] 20:34, 2 April 2015 (UTC)</small>
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+*'''Delete''' - no evidence of notability, fails [[WP:GNG]] and [[WP:NFOOTBALL]]. [[User:GiantSnowman|Giant]][[User talk:GiantSnowman|Snowman]] 12:35, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
+:*'''Comment''', this may be a candidate for speedy deletion if the content isn't significantly different from the version [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ronan Edwards|deleted at AFD in 2010]]. [[User:Hack|Hack]] ([[User talk:Hack|talk]]) 13:37, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
+*'''Comment''' The subject may or may not be authentic, but the playing career is a partial or total hoax. UEFA records show that [[Shamrock Rovers]] has never played [[Newcastle United F.C.]] in a European competition in 2002 or in any other year. Moreover, if almost any player had sustained a career-ending injury through a bad foul by a former captain of the [[England national football team]], there would be many references to the incident. None exists. The supposed first goal against [[St. James's Gate F.C.]] in the 1999-2000 season could not have happened, because the latter club was not in the league that year (see [[Rec.Sport.Soccer Statistics Foundation|RSSSF]] records [http://rsssf.com/tablesi/ier00.html] for 1999/2000). This looks like an elaborate hoax. [[User:Calamondin12|Calamondin12]] ([[User talk:Calamondin12|talk]]) 16:05, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
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