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== This article confuses the M.2 form factor (family of form factors) with the NVMe protocol == |
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There are statements regarding, e.g., the speed of [[M.2]] drives, which are only true when the M.2 drive uses the [[NVMe]] protocol, while overlooking the fact that other M.2 drives use the [[SATA]] protocol. (I believe the term "protocol" is more appropriate than "interface" here, and [[Form_factor_(design) | form factor]] is something else again.) |
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I'm having a first pass at correcting the issue, but someone else who's more informed on the subject should improve the article further. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:W.F.Galway|W.F.Galway]] ([[User talk:W.F.Galway#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/W.F.Galway|contribs]]) 15:51, 22 September 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Linux systemd versus weekly.cron == |
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In the "Linux" section, mention of systemd fstrim.timer should be added -- in most Linux distributions it has replaced invocation by weekly.cron . |
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Also, the recommendation (per 'man fstrim') to run 'fstrim' once a week should be added. (I leave this to an fstrim guru.) [[User:BMJ-pdx|BMJ-pdx]] ([[User talk:BMJ-pdx|talk]]) 00:29, 18 June 2020 (UTC) |
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== No a constructive use of language. == |
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I absolutely agree that this article needs to be updated. From my point of view, for example, the missing developments since 2017/18 and the years before in the field of SSDs can be added for example as follows: Actual replacement of HDDs by SSDs started maybe in 2010, when at the same time HDD unit shipments peaked at about 650m units. By 2014 roughly 40m SSDs where sold compared to about 550m HDDs. Over the next years, serious volume replacement took place and by 2020/2021 there were more SSD units sold than HDDs. BenediktKlaas (talk) 13:42, 24 November 2021 (UTC) |
I absolutely agree that this article needs to be updated. From my point of view, for example, the missing developments since 2017/18 and the years before in the field of SSDs can be added for example as follows: Actual replacement of HDDs by SSDs started maybe in 2010, when at the same time HDD unit shipments peaked at about 650m units. By 2014 roughly 40m SSDs where sold compared to about 550m HDDs. Over the next years, serious volume replacement took place and by 2020/2021 there were more SSD units sold than HDDs. BenediktKlaas (talk) 13:42, 24 November 2021 (UTC) |
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Greatest storage limit of solid-state drives. |
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IDE, 2.5 inch: 1 TB (Renice Technology)<br> |
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SATA, 2.5 inch: 15.36 TB (TeamGroup)<br> |
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M.2 SATA: 2 TB (Western Digital)<br> |
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M.2 NVMe: 8 TB (Sabrent) |
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==Misnomer?== |
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Isn’t the very term “solid-state drive” an oxymoron; I mean isn’t the distinguishing characteristic of solid-state storage devices that they got rid of the mechanical drive mechanism altogether.. —[[User:Arrandale Westmere|Arrandale Westmere]] ([[User talk:Arrandale Westmere|talk]]) 02:04, 23 November 2024 (UTC) |
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No a constructive use of language.
[edit]The sentence "Now a days external SSD drives are also available in the market to make sure it's availability for all PC/Laptop users." is not a constructive use of English as a language... [1] Nowadays, [2] its, [3] dubious reference [4] unclear what the message of this statement should be, if any. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.211.78.249 (talk) 20:45, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
This article desperately needs to be updated
[edit]Title.
From what I've seen, here are a few things that have changed since 2017/18:
- Average SSD price is usually about 25c per gigabyte or even less on cheaper models, like QLC or SATA drives
- 120GB SSDs are practically impossible to find today. The minimum size that can be easily found today is 256GB, which itself has become increasingly rare
- SSDs can commonly be found up to 8TB, or in rare cases 16TB
- No modern consumer SSD has a data throughput of 200MB/s, where'd that come from? Typically, the minimum is 600MB/s (for SATA drives). As for the maximum, that's hard to say. My drive reaches 6-10GB/s write speeds often, and read speeds are nearly double that, sometimes hitting 16GB/s which is the maximum throughput for the modern NVMe standard if I'm not mistaken. On average, however, it seems that the max write speed is 4-6GB/s. Unsure about read speeds
- Fragmentation is a problem on basically every single modern FS. However, NTFS is just an extreme case. All filesystems fragment, but usually aren't as bad as NTFS
Well there it is. This is, of course, only my personal findings, but I can try and find actual sources for these if necessary. Some stuff could also have better clarification and wording but that's unrelated I guess. Swirl0 (talk) 20:03, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
I've seen some drives cost less than 10 cents per gigabyte. Still, the thing about 30 cents per gigabyte on average is definitely inaccurate. Swirl0 (talk) 19:32, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
I think the Linux section might be outdated as well, since on my modern installation the default scheduler is one optimized for SSD usage. 46.142.185.73 (talk) 16:04, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
I absolutely agree that this article needs to be updated. From my point of view, for example, the missing developments since 2017/18 and the years before in the field of SSDs can be added for example as follows: Actual replacement of HDDs by SSDs started maybe in 2010, when at the same time HDD unit shipments peaked at about 650m units. By 2014 roughly 40m SSDs where sold compared to about 550m HDDs. Over the next years, serious volume replacement took place and by 2020/2021 there were more SSD units sold than HDDs. BenediktKlaas (talk) 13:42, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
/r/ requesting to expose samsung 850 / 860 / 870 evo 2.5" drives' technical specs.
[edit]I cannot find microcontroller, cache memory and NAND litography information from the internet.
To the List of Samsung Solid-State-Drives. 0dorkmann (talk) 15:23, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
photos: how big are devices
[edit]It would be nice to see at a glance how big devices in the pictures are. Eg include one inch ruler, or USA dime. Bill W102102 (talk) 16:05, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
- A familiar object would be good. Inches and dimes are unfamiliar to most readers of English Wikipedia. Centimetres (or even centimeters) would work just fine. Dondervogel 2 (talk) 20:59, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
- We could start by adding dimensions to captions. ~Kvng (talk) 13:51, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
- If dimensions are added then in conformance with the state of this art, I suggest dimensions be given in mm and converted to inches. I suspect most readers are familiar with both sets but I guess there are far more inch-only than mm-only readers of this English Wikipedia. Tom94022 (talk) 15:31, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
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[edit]I absolutely agree that this article needs to be updated. From my point of view, for example, the missing developments since 2017/18 and the years before in the field of SSDs can be added for example as follows: Actual replacement of HDDs by SSDs started maybe in 2010, when at the same time HDD unit shipments peaked at about 650m units. By 2014 roughly 40m SSDs where sold compared to about 550m HDDs. Over the next years, serious volume replacement took place and by 2020/2021 there were more SSD units sold than HDDs. BenediktKlaas (talk) 13:42, 24 November 2021 (UTC) Buy Telegram members 2A02:E0:8738:7900:1DB0:F151:816E:4762 (talk) 14:15, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
Tidbits eliminated in the article
[edit]Greatest storage limit of solid-state drives.
IDE, 2.5 inch: 1 TB (Renice Technology)
SATA, 2.5 inch: 15.36 TB (TeamGroup)
M.2 SATA: 2 TB (Western Digital)
M.2 NVMe: 8 TB (Sabrent)
Misnomer?
[edit]Isn’t the very term “solid-state drive” an oxymoron; I mean isn’t the distinguishing characteristic of solid-state storage devices that they got rid of the mechanical drive mechanism altogether.. —Arrandale Westmere (talk) 02:04, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
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