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woman of colour

I removed her being a woman or colour as she is quite clearly a white woman, Hispanic/Latino is not a race and woman of colour refers to a non white person or someone of European descent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Famaja (talk • contribs) 23:52, 14 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Good question. Why is she considered a person of color and the 1st Latino appointed to the Supreme Court? Wouldn’t that be Benjamin Cardozo who had Portuguese ancestry? According to Wikipedia he would fall into the category as Hispanic/Latino. Hispanic and Latino (ethnic categories)#:~:text=Since the 2000 Census, the,in their definition of Hispanic. What is this criteria for falling into a “person of color” category? 217.180.214.91 (talk) 22:00, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As far as Cardozo goes, the article goes into details about it in Footnote a. Did you read it? The edit in question was reverted almost immediately without controversy. Are there reliable sources that identify her as "white"? Magidin (talk) 22:23, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Footnotes need fixing

Currently, footnotes [a] and [b] are identical; I'm not sure how to tag footnotes so that they can be cited in two different places in the text, and don't really have the time to find out. If someone knows how to it, could they fix it to avoid the unnecessary repetition? The second instance is properly cited, so that should go to the lede and just a repeated reference to that footnote later on. Magidin (talk) 22:28, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done; you can tag efn footnotes with the "name" parameter as described in Template:Efn. Ligaturama (talk) 16:28, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Propose right-aligning the first stacked two pics in Early life. Reason: MOS:SANDWICH, it partially overlaps with the Liberalism in the United States template. 211.43.120.242 (talk) 14:58, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Partly done: I've moved the liberalism box to the footers so this is now less of a problem. There's still some overlap but not much. I previewed it on the right and thought it looked weird, the pictures would still extend into the next section but they clearly belong under Early Life, so I've kept them left-aligned. Ligaturama (talk) 16:23, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good to me, thanks! 211.43.120.242 (talk) 16:45, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Presidential immunity: dissent

Greetings Wikipedians! I'm surprised there's no mention of her dissenting opinion in Donald Trump vs. USA (July 1, 2024). It's a landmark case, according to Wikipedia. I'll volunteer to draft some text on this, Cordially, BuzzWeiser196 (talk) 12:45, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are you still working on this? I noticed today there's no mention either, a strange oversight in my opinion. 162.222.63.62 (talk) 11:20, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of Duplicate Information

I understand how a lead section of an article has to have its summary. But, adding the entire early life section in the lead, is something to look into. I would propose removing the early life details from the lead. Mentioning that she was born in New York, three times, does not sit well and reduces the quality of the article.

WikiProCreate (talk) 18:08, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The entire early life section is not in the lead, and in an article that long, mentioning her birthplace three times (lead, early life, infobox) is nowhere near excessive. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:16, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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+==woman of colour==
-== Injected False Information INTO SCOTUS Hearing ==
-Sotomayor wildly ranted during oral arguments that 100,000 children were sick with COV-19 in Hospital. On January 7th, 2022 she said “We have over 100,000 children, which we’ve never had before, in serious condition,” Sotomayor contended, “and many on ventilators.” On January 9th, 2122 the CDC Director Dr Rochelle Walensky confirmed that only 3500 children were hospitalized. https://www.bizpacreview.com/2022/01/10/cdcs-walensky-confirms-how-dramatically-wrong-sotomayor-was-in-stunning-biden-like-interview-1186641/ <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.138.33.183|24.138.33.183]] ([[User talk:24.138.33.183#top|talk]]) 21:58, January 10, 2022 (UTC)</small>
+I removed her being a woman or colour as she is quite clearly a white woman, Hispanic/Latino is not a race and woman of colour refers to a non white person or someone of European descent.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Famaja|Famaja]] ([[User talk:Famaja#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Famaja|contribs]]) 23:52, 14 June 2022 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
-:Please keep colorful commentary out. In the same argument, Gorsuch asserted that "hundreds of thousands of people" die of the flu every year (in fact, they do not; they then edited the oral transcript to remove the misstatement by replacing the "of" with a comma, even though the assertion was clearly "hundreds of thousands" when made). If you are suggesting this belongs in the page, it does not (neither does); it is a single misstatement in a single argument, and this is not a news page. If all you are doing is venting, then this is not the proper place to do so. And please (i) sign your comments; and (ii) do not remove other people's signature from previous comments when you post. [[User:Magidin|Magidin]] ([[User talk:Magidin|talk]]) 17:31, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
+:Good question. Why is she considered a person of color and the 1st Latino appointed to the Supreme Court? Wouldn’t that be Benjamin Cardozo who had Portuguese ancestry? According to Wikipedia he would fall into the category as Hispanic/Latino. [[Hispanic and Latino (ethnic categories)#:~:text=Since the 2000 Census, the,in their definition of Hispanic.]] What is this criteria for falling into a “person of color” category? [[Special:Contributions/217.180.214.91|217.180.214.91]] ([[User talk:217.180.214.91|talk]]) 22:00, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
-== Recent oral argument false statement during OSHA mandate hearing ==
+::As far as Cardozo goes, the article goes into details about it in Footnote a. Did you read it? The edit in question was reverted almost immediately without controversy. Are there reliable sources that identify her as "white"? [[User:Magidin|Magidin]] ([[User talk:Magidin|talk]]) 22:23, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
+== Footnotes need fixing ==
-I question the inclusion of the recent false statement about hospitalized children. I do not challenge its verifiability or newsworthiness, but its [[WP:N(E)|notablity]]. As noted [[WP:NOTNEWS|here]], Wikipedia is not a newspaper, and "not all verifiable events are suitable for inclusion." The criteria about whether it is [[WP:LASTING|lasting]] and [[WP:PERSISTENCE|persistent]] are not fully dispositive (hence my commenting rather than editing), but I would think counsel against inclusion, at least at this time. It was a false statement during oral arguments; in that same argument, Justice Gorsuch falsely asserted that every year "hundreds of thousands" of people die of the flu. Justices make false and mistaken statements during oral arguments all the time. No one suggests the assertion affected the outcome, nor is it mentioned in any of the written opinions in the case. It seems to me to be a case of [[WP:UNDUE|undue weight]] and recency bias. [[User:Magidin|Magidin]] ([[User talk:Magidin|talk]]) 17:32, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
-:{{re|Magidin}} I agree and support its removal from the article. &ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Muboshgu#top|talk]]) 18:27, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
-::I will give it through the weekend, but if there are no dissenting voices, I will remove the addition on Monday. [[User:Magidin|Magidin]] ([[User talk:Magidin|talk]]) 16:04, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
+Currently, footnotes [a] and [b] are identical; I'm not sure how to tag footnotes so that they can be cited in two different places in the text, and don't really have the time to find out. If someone knows how to it, could they fix it to avoid the unnecessary repetition? The second instance is properly cited, so that should go to the lede and just a repeated reference to that footnote later on. [[User:Magidin|Magidin]] ([[User talk:Magidin|talk]]) 22:28, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
-==woman of colour==
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+:Done; you can tag efn footnotes with the "name" parameter as described in [[Template:Efn]]. [[User:Ligaturama|Ligaturama]] ([[User talk:Ligaturama|talk]]) 16:28, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
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-== Photo of minor children ==
+Propose right-aligning the first stacked two pics in Early life. Reason: [[MOS:SANDWICH]], it partially overlaps with the Liberalism in the United States template. [[Special:Contributions/211.43.120.242|211.43.120.242]] ([[User talk:211.43.120.242|talk]]) 14:58, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
-Why is there a photo with minor children here?  Do we have their parents' permission?  Shouldn't this be removed?  Marc Yu 16:49, 27 June 2022 (UTC)  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Marcyu|Marcyu]] ([[User talk:Marcyu#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Marcyu|contribs]]) </span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+:{{partly done|Partly done:}}<!-- Template:ESp --> I've moved the liberalism box to the footers so this is now less of a problem. There's still some overlap but not much. I previewed it on the right and thought it looked weird, the pictures would still extend into the next section but they clearly belong under Early Life, so I've kept them left-aligned. [[User:Ligaturama|Ligaturama]] ([[User talk:Ligaturama|talk]]) 16:23, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
-==Adding Category Abortion==
+::Looks good to me, thanks! [[Special:Contributions/211.43.120.242|211.43.120.242]] ([[User talk:211.43.120.242|talk]]) 16:45, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
+== Presidential immunity: dissent ==
-given the current state of the Supreme Court (July 2022) and the recent rulings affecting [[:Category:Abortion|abortion]] I am adding [[:Category:Abortion]]. I believe adding this category will be uncontroversial.
+Greetings Wikipedians! I'm surprised there's no mention of her dissenting opinion in Donald Trump vs. USA (July 1, 2024). It's a landmark case, according to Wikipedia. I'll volunteer to draft some text on this, Cordially, [[User:BuzzWeiser196|BuzzWeiser196]] ([[User talk:BuzzWeiser196|talk]]) 12:45, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
--- [[User:Charlesreid1|Charlesreid1]] ([[User talk:Charlesreid1|talk]]) 08:17, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
+:Are you still working on this? I noticed today there's no mention either, a strange oversight in my opinion. [[Special:Contributions/162.222.63.62|162.222.63.62]] ([[User talk:162.222.63.62|talk]]) 11:20, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
-:Undone. Please see [[Talk:Ketanji_Brown_Jackson#Adding_Category_Abortion]] for centralized discussion. &ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Muboshgu#top|talk]]) 17:46, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
+== Removal of Duplicate Information ==
-==Discussion at [[:Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States courts and judges#RfC on the political party field in the infobox of SCOTUS judges|Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States courts and judges §&nbsp;RfC on the political party field in the infobox of SCOTUS judges]]==
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+I understand how a lead section of an article has to have its summary. But, adding the entire early life section in the lead, is something to look into. I would propose removing the early life details from the lead. Mentioning that she was born in New York, three times, does not sit well and reduces the quality of the article.
-== She doesn't realize that we are Native natural born citizens. ==
+[[User:WikiProCreate|WikiProCreate]] ([[User talk:WikiProCreate|talk]]) 18:08, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
-She just embarrassed US. My Arawak tribe was discovered in Florida and we have been on the continent since 500bc. Her statement today regarding affirmative action legislation that my family battled for is about race in that it protects descendants of Native and African American slaves. She doesn't know we are natural born citizens like Thomas Clarence doesn't know he is African American. They are both on that bench because of those laws that protect US. I'm glad she is a fat cow that doesn't eat our tasty food in moderation. That seat will be available to anybody but her soon. And Asians are foreigners with citizenship. This is not their original country. In some cases, race does matter. For them not to cry when black America starts pushing them back. This stunt is not going to benefit them now or later. European Americans have most of those Harvard seats not US. They tread on US to surpass US. Treading on my rights to secure theirs is illogical. We don't have more students in Harvard then them. We need to extend the court ASAP. And Clarence can learn from the new Justice that recused herself due to the conflict of interest. I'm embarrassed by our supreme court...it's broken. They don't live in reality just making things up as they go... I don't know how a supreme court justice can be married to someone who tried to overthrow our government and still sits on the bench. And treason was punishable by death in the past...these mthfkrs are getting slapped on the wrist. We are becoming Lawless when we have millions upon millions of classified documents. I don't have faith in our leaders. I never thought I would see the day that an Arawak and an African American would betray US and those before US on that bench. Look at you two getting radicalized... what's next genocides via cuts to social services that help the elderly and chronically ill...a European pastor said that we shouldn't have to tithe because we already do via taxes. The church used to be the government. Healthcare is a human right. You are spending our tax dollars. We pay your salary! You have government based healthcare on the taxpayer! Biden Extend the Court. Let's go Biden! [[Special:Contributions/174.240.66.43|174.240.66.43]] ([[User talk:174.240.66.43|talk]]) 06:18, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
+:The entire early life section is ''not'' in the lead, and in an article that long, mentioning her birthplace three times (lead, early life, infobox) is nowhere ''near'' excessive. --[[User talk:SarekOfVulcan|<span class="gfSarekSig">SarekOfVulcan (talk)</span>]] 18:16, 16 September 2024 (UTC)