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I don't think [[November 15, 2008 anti-Proposition 8 protests]] was impactful enough to merit an article separate from this – maybe this warrants a few sentences to a paragraph as a merge to this article? [[user:theleekycauldron|theleekycauldron]] ([[user talk:theleekycauldron|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Theleekycauldron|contribs]]) (she/[[singular they|they]]) 18:36, 22 August 2022 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''' merge. The protests article is primarily a list of locations, and if it is cut, the rest of the content is short enough to be combined into a paragraph. [[User:Hanif Al Husaini|Hanif Al Husaini]] ([[User talk:Hanif Al Husaini|talk]]) 07:34, 29 August 2022 (UTC) |
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*'''Support'''. Clearly not enough for a stand-alone article here.--[[User:Trystan|Trystan]] ([[User talk:Trystan|talk]]) 13:26, 31 August 2022 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''' merger per above. <span class="nowrap">—'''[[User:CX Zoom|CX Zoom]]'''[he/him]</span> <sup class="nowrap">([[User talk:CX Zoom|let's talk]] • {[[Special:Contributions/CX Zoom|C]]•[[User:CX Zoom/X|X]]})</sup> 10:37, 10 October 2022 (UTC) |
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:'''Support''' - Not enough content for a split. [[User:Onegreatjoke|Onegreatjoke]] ([[User talk:Onegreatjoke|talk]]) 16:59, 2 November 2022 (UTC) |
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{{Quote frame|in an opinion page by The New York Times, the Times called the backlash a "mob veto," and urged violence against the supporters to cease, signed on by academics, politicians and writers.}} |
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*'''Support''' per above. [[User:Hekerui|Hekerui]] ([[User talk:Hekerui|talk]]) 11:03, 18 November 2022 (UTC) |
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This is false. There's no citation for it because no such column existed. An ad, purchased by The Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, ran in the NY Times using the phrase "mob veto". It wasn't a column, and shouldn't be attributed to the paper. Possibly redundant (definitely more political) page [[Protests against Proposition 8 supporters]] is more accurate. Thank you [[User:Paulspyder|Paulspyder]] ([[User talk:Paulspyder|talk]]) 00:14, 21 March 2019 (UTC) |
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::{{ping|theleekycauldron}} {{ping|Hanif Al Husaini}} {{ping|Trystan}} {{ping|CX Zoom}} {{ping|Onegreatjoke}} {{ping|Hekerui}} I think we have consensus for a merge here. Perhaps one or more of you would like to jump in! [[User:Joyous!|Joyous!]] | [[User_talk:Joyous%21|Talk]] 04:01, 13 February 2023 (UTC) |
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:Here is a reference that may be used as a citation for that claim; |
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:::I boldly redirected, sufficient content in main article in my opinion [[User:Hekerui|Hekerui]] ([[User talk:Hekerui|talk]]) 18:15, 14 February 2023 (UTC) |
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:[https://thinkprogress.org/missouri-far-right-frontrunner-gop-senate-nomination-ed00ab1142ef/ "The Fund ran a full page New York Times ad in 2008 suggesting that opponents of the unconstitutional California Proposition 8 were “thugs” seeking a “mob veto” via a an anti-Mormon “religious war” has worked to erode the separation of church and state through pushing to allow prayer at government functions, religious symbols in public spaces, public funding for religious schools, and discrimination against same-sex couples by those with faith-based anti-LGBTQ views".]--[[User:Mark Miller|Mark Miller]] ([[User talk:Mark Miller|talk]]) 01:21, 21 March 2019 (UTC) |
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:and this one; |
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:[https://www.coloradoindependent.com/2008/12/11/gay-groups-cry-foul-on-new-york-times-no-mob-veto-ad-claims/ A full-page New York Times ad has sparked a war of words between gay groups and their allies and conservative religious leaders. The ad, sponsored by the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, asserts that gays and lesbians have engaged in a pattern of mob violence against Mormons after the passage of Proposition 8 in California; gays meanwhile have pushed back, asserting that the church is not the victim. The ad, headlined “No Mob Veto,” claims that since Prop. 8 passed, angry gays have engaged in mob-like and threatening actions, some disguised as demonstrations, over the vote to ban same-gender marriage in California.] |
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:<s>So clearly your bias and original research is the issue and not the accuracy of the article's claim</s>.--[[User:Mark Miller|Mark Miller]] ([[User talk:Mark Miller|talk]]) 01:24, 21 March 2019 (UTC) |
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I'm doing personal research on the repeal process of Proposition 8, and would definitely like to also find the link to the original article. Am new to editing wikipedia, saw this, wanted to update it. |
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:That and your not understanding what an opinion page is.--[[User:Mark Miller|Mark Miller]] ([[User talk:Mark Miller|talk]]) 01:26, 21 March 2019 (UTC) |
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Broken reference link to reference 268, refers me to the home page of SFGATE, not the article link. |
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I must have been a lot more tired last night than I thought because this morning I can see the real issue is stating that the Times called the backlash a "mob veto. That is inaccurate. It was a special interest group that made the claim not the paper.--[[User:Mark Miller|Mark Miller]] ([[User talk:Mark Miller|talk]]) 19:59, 21 March 2019 (UTC) |
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Please add a link to an archived page of the article, as the link |
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:[[File:Red check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Done:'''--[[User:Mark Miller|Mark Miller]] ([[User talk:Mark Miller|talk]]) 06:24, 22 March 2019 (UTC) |
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Found this link: 'https://archive.is/K5Fj' from an archiving site after inputting the previous, non-working website link. [[User:ProlificSundown|ProlificSundown]] ([[User talk:ProlificSundown|talk]]) 03:10, 10 December 2023 (UTC) |
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== why locked? == |
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That whole paragraph at the end of the lede should be placed somewhere in the body. It's really awkward to have something so detailed in the lede.[[User:TheLonelyGoatherder|TheLonelyGoatherder]] ([[User talk:TheLonelyGoatherder|talk]]) 02:37, 21 December 2019 (UTC) |
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why is this still locked? [[Special:Contributions/71.223.71.176|71.223.71.176]] ([[User talk:71.223.71.176|talk]]) 18:15, 2 April 2024 (UTC) |
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== Grammatical Error == |
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:You can request unprotection at [[WP:RPP]]. -- [[User:NatGertler|Nat Gertler]] ([[User talk:NatGertler|talk]]) 20:42, 2 April 2024 (UTC) |
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In section 3.3.1, the first sentence is grammatically incorrect. The word "while" is used twice, the first use of "while" should be removed to fix the sentence. [[User:H, H, R... character|H, H, R... character]] ([[User talk:H, H, R... character|talk]]) 05:27, 11 April 2020 (UTC) |
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:Fixed, thanks. --[[User:NatGertler|Nat Gertler]] ([[User talk:NatGertler|talk]]) 10:07, 11 April 2020 (UTC) |
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[edit]I don't think November 15, 2008 anti-Proposition 8 protests was impactful enough to merit an article separate from this – maybe this warrants a few sentences to a paragraph as a merge to this article? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 18:36, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
- Support merge. The protests article is primarily a list of locations, and if it is cut, the rest of the content is short enough to be combined into a paragraph. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 07:34, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
- Support. Clearly not enough for a stand-alone article here.--Trystan (talk) 13:26, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- Support merger per above. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 10:37, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
- Support - Not enough content for a split. Onegreatjoke (talk) 16:59, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
- Support per above. Hekerui (talk) 11:03, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: @Hanif Al Husaini: @Trystan: @CX Zoom: @Onegreatjoke: @Hekerui: I think we have consensus for a merge here. Perhaps one or more of you would like to jump in! Joyous! | Talk 04:01, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- I boldly redirected, sufficient content in main article in my opinion Hekerui (talk) 18:15, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: @Hanif Al Husaini: @Trystan: @CX Zoom: @Onegreatjoke: @Hekerui: I think we have consensus for a merge here. Perhaps one or more of you would like to jump in! Joyous! | Talk 04:01, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
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I'm doing personal research on the repeal process of Proposition 8, and would definitely like to also find the link to the original article. Am new to editing wikipedia, saw this, wanted to update it. Broken reference link to reference 268, refers me to the home page of SFGATE, not the article link. Please add a link to an archived page of the article, as the link 'http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?blogid=14&entry_id=43580' is longer public on the sfgate.com website. Found this link: 'https://archive.is/K5Fj' from an archiving site after inputting the previous, non-working website link. ProlificSundown (talk) 03:10, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Shadow311 (talk) 18:03, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
why locked?
[edit]why is this still locked? 71.223.71.176 (talk) 18:15, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- You can request unprotection at WP:RPP. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 20:42, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
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