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== Li8 Decay is Misleading == |
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== Lithium-5 == |
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== A new particle accelerator aims to unlock secrets of bizarre atomic nuclei == |
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Here is an article on Lithium-11 with halo effect at [https://www.sciencenews.org/article/rare-isotope-elements-new-particle-accelerator-atom-nucleus A new particle accelerator aims to unlock secrets of bizarre atomic nuclei]. [[User:Rjluna2|Rjluna2]] ([[User talk:Rjluna2|talk]]) 19:41, 12 June 2022 (UTC) |
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== Discrepancy in Abundances == |
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The table in the article gives: Li-6 4.85%, Li-7 95.15% |
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The pie chart gives: Li-6 7.59%, Li-7 92.41% [[Special:Contributions/45.49.245.43|45.49.245.43]] ([[User talk:45.49.245.43|talk]]) 21:31, 2 February 2023 (UTC) |
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:Good catch. I have removed the (2013) pie chart, abundances have changed / become more precise since. Especially for lithium btw (complicated spread of un/natural occurrances). Standard atomic weight, AME, is more current data. Thanks for the report. [[User:DePiep|DePiep]] ([[User talk:DePiep|talk]]) 23:21, 2 February 2023 (UTC) |
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== Percentage == |
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Correct is — <sup>6</sup>Li (7,5 %) and <sup>7</sup>Li (92,5 %); '''incorrect''' — <sup>6</sup>Li (4.85%) and <sup>7</sup>Li (95.15%)! Why? Becouse standard atomic weight in first case will be 6.940037 and in second 6.967460. Please find source for second one. source for the first one is [https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BF%D1%8B_%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%8F ruwiki]. [[User:Surprizi|Surprizi]] ([[User talk:Surprizi|talk]]) 13:42, 3 May 2023 (UTC) |
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If I am wrong, would you please help me to calculate standard atomic weight — 6.94.--[[User:Surprizi|Surprizi]] ([[User talk:Surprizi|talk]]) 14:32, 3 May 2023 (UTC) |
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I feel that Lithium-5 deserves more attention. There is no stable Isotope-5, of which Lithium-5 and Helium-5 are the most stable. At least a link to a page that discusses Isotope-5, Isotope-8, etc. [[Special:Contributions/14.202.17.58|14.202.17.58]] ([[User talk:14.202.17.58|talk]]) 18:19, 11 November 2023 (UTC) |
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"Lithium is an element with only two stable isotopes, 6Li and 7Li, and so there is only one stable isotope ratio involved (see Figure 1). The standard isotopic reference material for lithium,1 IRMM-016, has a measured stable isotope ratio that leads to a mole fraction for 6Li of 0.0759 (which corresponds to an isotopic abundance value of 7.59%) and a mole fraction for 7Li of 0.9241 (which corresponds to the isotopic abundance value of 92.41%). The product of each isotope’s atomic mass and its isotopic abundance, summed over both isotopes leads to a calculated value of 6.94 for the atomic weight of lithium"<ref>[https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/ci.2010.32.1.14/html The Impact of Depleted 6Li on the Standard Atomic Weight of Lithium]</ref><ref>[https://ciaaw.org/publications.htm#P1 ATOMIC WEIGHT REPORTS]</ref><ref>[https://ciaaw.org/lithium.htm LITHIUM]</ref>.--[[User:Surprizi|Surprizi]] ([[User talk:Surprizi|talk]]) 14:38, 3 May 2023 (UTC) |
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:In addition, '''incorrect ratio''' 4.85:95.15 is comming from the average of four numbers [0.019, 0.078] (''[0.019+0.078]/2=4.85'') and [0.922, 0.981] (''[0.922+0.981]/2=95.15''). Calculation this way is incorect, becouse [0.019, 0.078] and [0.922, 0.981] are range, not simple two and two numbers. Everithing will changed through this diapasons. In case if we had only two isotopes, then everybody will be correct. On [https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/ci.2010.32.1.14/html this] site on the right is link to original pdf file, where you can see illustrations and will find that Lithium are not only in two places.--[[User:Surprizi|Surprizi]] ([[User talk:Surprizi|talk]]) 06:04, 4 May 2023 (UTC) |
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Li8 Decay is Misleading
[edit]Li-8 decay is misleading. The footnote explains it's the equivalent of Spontaneous Fission with Positron emission, and lists the decay type as Alpha plus Beta- (positron). It seems to me it's more appropriate to say it uses Beta- plus Alpha decay and results in He4, not Be8. Does it spend any time at all in Be8, after all? TimeHorse (talk)
Lithium-5
[edit]I feel that Lithium-5 deserves more attention. There is no stable Isotope-5, of which Lithium-5 and Helium-5 are the most stable. At least a link to a page that discusses Isotope-5, Isotope-8, etc. 14.202.17.58 (talk) 18:19, 11 November 2023 (UTC)