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Is this really an encyclopedic person? Isn't her info suited to her parents' article?[[User:217.140.193.123|217.140.193.123]] 8 July 2005 22:34 (UTC)
Is this really an encyclopedic person? Isn't her info suited to her parents' article?[[User:217.140.193.123|217.140.193.123]] 8 July 2005 22:34 (UTC)


:Shouldn't it be [[Mako, Princess Akishino]] anyways, to follow the same pattern as other members of the Imperial Family? [[User:Nik42|Nik42]] 20:40, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
:Shouldn't it be [[Mako, Princess Akishino]] anyways, to follow the same pattern as other members of the Imperial Family? [[User:Nik42|Nik42]] 20:40, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
::No it's not. The Akishino is a princely house, therefore she is "of Akishino" in English as far as I know. [[User:Gryffindor|<font color="red">Gryffindor</font>]] 02:23, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
::No it's not. The Akishino is a princely house, therefore she is "of Akishino" in English as far as I know. [[User:Gryffindor|<span style="color:red;">Gryffindor</span>]] 02:23, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
:::When Mako's father married he received the title Prince Akishino (Akishino no miya) and authorization from the Imperial Household Economy Council to form a new branch of the imperial family. Which AFAIK means that, almost like [[Prince William of Wales]] and [[Princess Beatrice of York]], she is titled this way to say she is the daughter of Prince Akishino. ''And please, since I am no expert in Japanese customs, if I have this wrong, feel free to correct me.'' [[User:Prsgoddess187|Prsgodd]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<font color="green">e</font>]][[User:Prsgoddess187|ss187]] 11:14, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
:::When Mako's father married he received the title Prince Akishino (Akishino no miya) and authorization from the Imperial Household Economy Council to form a new branch of the imperial family. Which AFAIK means that, almost like [[Prince William of Wales]] and [[Princess Beatrice of York]], she is titled this way to say she is the daughter of Prince Akishino. ''And please, since I am no expert in Japanese customs, if I have this wrong, feel free to correct me.'' [[User:Prsgoddess187|Prsgodd]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<span style="color:green;">e</span>]][[User:Prsgoddess187|ss187]] 11:14, 5 April 2006 (UTC)


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[[User:69.234.214.190|69.234.214.190]] 16:52, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
[[User:69.234.214.190|69.234.214.190]] 16:52, 21 June 2007 (UTC)


A new photo is in order. She is older now and known for her striking beauty. The current photo seems cropped and a little blurry as well.
Likely due to being uglier than a bulldog's butt[[User:72.198.206.139|72.198.206.139]] 17:47, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

== What's the definition of "commoner" in this context? ==

[[Japanese nobility]] states that there is no nobility outside of the emperor's family. So what's the definition of "commoner" in this context? --[[User:Pjacobi|Pjacobi]] ([[User talk:Pjacobi|talk]]) 12:28, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
:I think it pretty much just means that. Anybody outside of that. In the past it was an extended family of the Emperor, but currently only the close relatives are imperial. However a female still loses titles if marrying a commoner. [[User:Emir of Wikipedia|Emir of Wikipedia]] ([[User talk:Emir of Wikipedia|talk]]) 14:57, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
:: So this means when not marrying a cousin? --[[User:Pjacobi|Pjacobi]] ([[User talk:Pjacobi|talk]]) 06:38, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
::: In the contemporary context it pretty much means that a female noble must marry a cousin to keep titles, however the only noble bachelor left is the ten year old [[Prince Hisahito]] (Makos brother). It it is worth noting that his is related to the problem of the [[Japanese succession controversy]], but this article is correct in it mentions about commoners. [[User:Emir of Wikipedia|Emir of Wikipedia]] ([[User talk:Emir of Wikipedia|talk]]) 13:49, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
:::: To be frankly honest, commoner means practically any man NOT pre-arranged by the Dynasty / Imperial Household Agency. As long as the son of an important shinto shrine high priest or a childhood friend of the prince or similar is selected to groom for the princess, there isn't problem in the court and the press/media and they can get 105m yen as a parting gift. But when "star-crossed" love walks into the picture in the effigy of a guy not well connected then poisonous scoops start rolling. As for the tremendous stress placed on Princess Mako, this is what many progressive japanese people fear: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huisheng [[Special:Contributions/188.143.7.215|188.143.7.215]] ([[User talk:188.143.7.215|talk]]) 14:50, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
No, anon, it's your idea and only. Here a commoner means those who are not imperial royal. Imperial House Law (that's the JP gov't official title in English) Art. 12 reads "In case a female of the Imperial Family marries a person other than the Emperor or the members of the Imperial Family, she shall lose the status of the Imperial Family member."[https://www.kunaicho.go.jp/e-kunaicho/hourei-01.html] This "other than the Emperor or the members of the Imperial Family" == a commoner, it's not official legal term in Japan today, but convenience for English readers. --21:09, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

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Authority is acceptant marriage registration. PLZ change article name.--[[Special:Contributions/220.100.66.208|220.100.66.208]] ([[User talk:220.100.66.208|talk]]) 02:35, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Article name is wrong. Not 'Mako Komuro of Akishino' and 'Mako Kuroda', but 'Mako Komuro'. Please correct.--[[Special:Contributions/220.100.66.208|220.100.66.208]] ([[User talk:220.100.66.208|talk]]) 09:01, 26 October 2021 (UTC)<br>

Can someone drop the Of Akishino from the page as it is not a part of her anymore since she's left the family since she married?
I've tried to fix it but no luck. Please and thank you! [[User:Mirrorthesoul|Mirrorthesoul]] ([[User talk:Mirrorthesoul|talk]]) 09:22, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

== Don't use the News Post Seven article as a source. ==

This is a tabloid magazine that deals only with low-quality gossip. In light of [[WP:BLP]], it cannot be used as a source and any statements based on it must be removed.--[[Special:Contributions/150.31.42.252|150.31.42.252]] ([[User talk:150.31.42.252|talk]]) 13:11, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
:Thanks for bringing it up. Links to the tabloid have been removed. <span style="font:'Pristina'">[[user:Keivan.f|<span style="color: #1E7HDC">Keivan.f</span>]]</span><span style="font:'Pristina'"><sup>[[user_talk:Keivan.f|<span style="color: purple">Talk</span>]]</sup></span> 00:20, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
:Same goes for ''Bunshun Online'' (now removed). --[[Special:Contributions/2001:240:241A:94F1:AF11:9633:88A2:211A|2001:240:241A:94F1:AF11:9633:88A2:211A]] ([[User talk:2001:240:241A:94F1:AF11:9633:88A2:211A|talk]]) 12:53, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

==BLPN noticeboard==
Because of a BLP noticeboard complaint[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=1142344882], I have extensively reduced text about Kei Komuro to details where it impacts Mako to comply with Wikipedia policies on [[WP:NPOV]] and [[WP:OR]]. There was a lot of conjecture about her husband that should not have been there in the first place. Wikipedia is not a tabloid to contain [[WP:BLPGOSSIP]]. [[User:Morbidthoughts|Morbidthoughts]] ([[User talk:Morbidthoughts|talk]]) 21:17, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

Archived BLPN discussion[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard/Archive347#Mako_Komuro] [[User:Morbidthoughts|Morbidthoughts]] ([[User talk:Morbidthoughts|talk]]) 07:58, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
:After the disruptive edits, any opinion on keeping "Komuru graduated from Fordham University School of Law with a Juris Doctor in May 2021 and later joined Lowenstein Sandler, a law firm in New York"? Do we need his education history in her article or just explain that they moved to New York for his job? [[User:Morbidthoughts|Morbidthoughts]] ([[User talk:Morbidthoughts|talk]]) 17:30, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

:I think including "Komuru graduated from Fordham University School of Law with a Juris Doctor in May 2021 and later joined Lowenstein Sandler, a law firm in New York" is a good idea, because it explains a lot about Mako's timeline. Without that information, the section about her marriage lacks a clear explanation for why - after delaying in 2018 - the couple was married in 2021. [[User:Cyanealamarckii|Cyanealamarckii]] ([[User talk:Cyanealamarckii|talk]]) 01:41, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

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encyclopedic

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Is this really an encyclopedic person? Isn't her info suited to her parents' article?217.140.193.123 8 July 2005 22:34 (UTC)

Shouldn't it be Mako, Princess Akishino anyways, to follow the same pattern as other members of the Imperial Family? Nik42 20:40, 14 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
No it's not. The Akishino is a princely house, therefore she is "of Akishino" in English as far as I know. Gryffindor 02:23, 5 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
When Mako's father married he received the title Prince Akishino (Akishino no miya) and authorization from the Imperial Household Economy Council to form a new branch of the imperial family. Which AFAIK means that, almost like Prince William of Wales and Princess Beatrice of York, she is titled this way to say she is the daughter of Prince Akishino. And please, since I am no expert in Japanese customs, if I have this wrong, feel free to correct me. Prsgoddess187 11:14, 5 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tagged as not verified

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Article needs to cite sources.--Isotope23 13:28, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I added an external link to the IHA, where all the info can be verified, and removed the tag. Tensaibuta 23:27, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Where's the picture?

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Why do so many members of the Royal families not have pictures?

69.234.214.190 16:52, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A new photo is in order. She is older now and known for her striking beauty. The current photo seems cropped and a little blurry as well.

What's the definition of "commoner" in this context?

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Japanese nobility states that there is no nobility outside of the emperor's family. So what's the definition of "commoner" in this context? --Pjacobi (talk) 12:28, 18 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think it pretty much just means that. Anybody outside of that. In the past it was an extended family of the Emperor, but currently only the close relatives are imperial. However a female still loses titles if marrying a commoner. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 14:57, 18 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
So this means when not marrying a cousin? --Pjacobi (talk) 06:38, 19 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
In the contemporary context it pretty much means that a female noble must marry a cousin to keep titles, however the only noble bachelor left is the ten year old Prince Hisahito (Makos brother). It it is worth noting that his is related to the problem of the Japanese succession controversy, but this article is correct in it mentions about commoners. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 13:49, 19 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
To be frankly honest, commoner means practically any man NOT pre-arranged by the Dynasty / Imperial Household Agency. As long as the son of an important shinto shrine high priest or a childhood friend of the prince or similar is selected to groom for the princess, there isn't problem in the court and the press/media and they can get 105m yen as a parting gift. But when "star-crossed" love walks into the picture in the effigy of a guy not well connected then poisonous scoops start rolling. As for the tremendous stress placed on Princess Mako, this is what many progressive japanese people fear: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huisheng 188.143.7.215 (talk) 14:50, 17 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No, anon, it's your idea and only. Here a commoner means those who are not imperial royal. Imperial House Law (that's the JP gov't official title in English) Art. 12 reads "In case a female of the Imperial Family marries a person other than the Emperor or the members of the Imperial Family, she shall lose the status of the Imperial Family member."[1] This "other than the Emperor or the members of the Imperial Family" == a commoner, it's not official legal term in Japan today, but convenience for English readers. --21:09, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

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Authority is acceptant marriage registration. PLZ change article name.--220.100.66.208 (talk) 02:35, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Article name is wrong. Not 'Mako Komuro of Akishino' and 'Mako Kuroda', but 'Mako Komuro'. Please correct.--220.100.66.208 (talk) 09:01, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone drop the Of Akishino from the page as it is not a part of her anymore since she's left the family since she married? I've tried to fix it but no luck. Please and thank you! Mirrorthesoul (talk) 09:22, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Don't use the News Post Seven article as a source.

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This is a tabloid magazine that deals only with low-quality gossip. In light of WP:BLP, it cannot be used as a source and any statements based on it must be removed.--150.31.42.252 (talk) 13:11, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for bringing it up. Links to the tabloid have been removed. Keivan.fTalk 00:20, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Same goes for Bunshun Online (now removed). --2001:240:241A:94F1:AF11:9633:88A2:211A (talk) 12:53, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

BLPN noticeboard

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Because of a BLP noticeboard complaint[2], I have extensively reduced text about Kei Komuro to details where it impacts Mako to comply with Wikipedia policies on WP:NPOV and WP:OR. There was a lot of conjecture about her husband that should not have been there in the first place. Wikipedia is not a tabloid to contain WP:BLPGOSSIP. Morbidthoughts (talk) 21:17, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Archived BLPN discussion[3] Morbidthoughts (talk) 07:58, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

After the disruptive edits, any opinion on keeping "Komuru graduated from Fordham University School of Law with a Juris Doctor in May 2021 and later joined Lowenstein Sandler, a law firm in New York"? Do we need his education history in her article or just explain that they moved to New York for his job? Morbidthoughts (talk) 17:30, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think including "Komuru graduated from Fordham University School of Law with a Juris Doctor in May 2021 and later joined Lowenstein Sandler, a law firm in New York" is a good idea, because it explains a lot about Mako's timeline. Without that information, the section about her marriage lacks a clear explanation for why - after delaying in 2018 - the couple was married in 2021. Cyanealamarckii (talk) 01:41, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]