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:Thanks for your interest in developing this type of article and specifically this subject. Perhaps a good start would be to review [[Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(writing_about_fiction)]]. If you feel you have developed the article adequately, please remove the <nowiki>{{in-universe|date=May 2009}}</nowiki> tag at the top of the article. If you find the right citations you may also want to remove the <nowiki>{{Unreferenced|date=October 2007}}</nowiki> tag. [[User:Pknkly|Pknkly]] ([[User talk:Pknkly|talk]]) 16:37, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks for your interest in developing this type of article and specifically this subject. Perhaps a good start would be to review [[Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(writing_about_fiction)]]. If you feel you have developed the article adequately, please remove the <nowiki>{{in-universe|date=May 2009}}</nowiki> tag at the top of the article. If you find the right citations you may also want to remove the <nowiki>{{Unreferenced|date=October 2007}}</nowiki> tag. [[User:Pknkly|Pknkly]] ([[User talk:Pknkly|talk]]) 16:37, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


::Now that I've had a chance to read that thoroughly and check out the examples of good articles, I've got a better idea what kind of info should be included. I'm working on it, but it will likely be slow going. --[[User:Susan118|<b><font color="purple" face="Comic Sans MS">Susan118</font></b>]] [[User_Talk:Susan118|<font color="purple" face="Comic Sans MS"><sup><small>'''talk'''</small></sup></font>]] 06:04, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
::Now that I've had a chance to read that thoroughly and check out the examples of good articles, I've got a better idea what kind of info should be included. I'm working on it, but it will likely be slow going. --[[User:Susan118|<b><span style="color:purple; font-family:Comic Sans MS;">Susan118</span></b>]] [[User_Talk:Susan118|<span style="color:purple; font-family:Comic Sans MS;"><sup><small>'''talk'''</small></sup></span>]] 06:04, 17 June 2009 (UTC)


:::[http://perfectstrangers.tv/ P.S. I Love You] is a good source. It, really, contains everything! Next thing you know we'll be [[User:Primetime|banned for massive copyright violations]] for the website! [[User:Coastergeekperson04/|<font color=black>&mdash;</font>]][[User:Ceres3|<font color=blue>Coasterge</font><font color=teal>ekperson</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Coastergeekperson04|<font color=darkblue>04</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Ceres3|<font color=green>TM</font>]]</sup><sub>circa. Jul/26/09&nbsp;15:12</sub>
:::[http://perfectstrangers.tv/ P.S. I Love You] is a good source. It, really, contains everything! Next thing you know we'll be [[User:Primetime|banned for massive copyright violations]] for the website! [[User:Coastergeekperson04/|<span style="color:black;">&mdash;</span>]][[User:Ceres3|<span style="color:blue;">Coasterge</span><span style="color:teal;">ekperson</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Coastergeekperson04|<span style="color:darkblue;">04</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Ceres3|<span style="color:green;">TM</span>]]</sup><sub>circa. Jul/26/09&nbsp;15:12</sub>


::::That's a great site; that's actually where I found the articles I cited. --[[User:Susan118|<b><font color="purple" face="Comic Sans MS">Susan118</font></b>]] [[User_Talk:Susan118|<font color="purple" face="Comic Sans MS"><sup><small>'''talk'''</small></sup></font>]] 06:23, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::::That's a great site; that's actually where I found the articles I cited. --[[User:Susan118|<b><span style="color:purple; font-family:Comic Sans MS;">Susan118</span></b>]] [[User_Talk:Susan118|<span style="color:purple; font-family:Comic Sans MS;"><sup><small>'''talk'''</small></sup></span>]] 06:23, 27 July 2009 (UTC)


== Under Construction ==
== Under Construction ==


I added the tag as I am trying to add some information and rewrite some parts to resolve the in-universe problem. --[[User:Susan118|<b><font color="purple" face="Comic Sans MS">Susan118</font></b>]] [[User_Talk:Susan118|<font color="purple" face="Comic Sans MS"><sup><small>'''talk'''</small></sup></font>]] 01:58, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
I added the tag as I am trying to add some information and rewrite some parts to resolve the in-universe problem. --[[User:Susan118|<b><span style="color:purple; font-family:Comic Sans MS;">Susan118</span></b>]] [[User_Talk:Susan118|<span style="color:purple; font-family:Comic Sans MS;"><sup><small>'''talk'''</small></sup></span>]] 01:58, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
:I did indeed do some major rewriting earlier to fix that problem in [[Larry Appleton]], but I mainly focused on simply replacing years with seasons and episodes, e.g. "Later in 1986, Larry met Jennifer Lyons..." to "Early in Season 2 ([[List of Perfect Strangers episodes#Season 2: 1986-1987|Hunks Like Us]], Larry met Jennifer..." It was painstaking, but I did not need the use of a template. N.B., or should I say, P.S., nice signature. [[User:Coastergeekperson04/|<font color=black>&mdash;</font>]][[User:Ceres3|<font color=blue>Coasterge</font><font color=teal>ekperson</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Coastergeekperson04|<font color=darkblue>04</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Ceres3|<font color=green>TM</font>]]</sup><sub>circa. Jul/26/09&nbsp;15:10</sub>
:I did indeed do some major rewriting earlier to fix that problem in [[Larry Appleton]], but I mainly focused on simply replacing years with seasons and episodes, e.g. "Later in 1986, Larry met Jennifer Lyons..." to "Early in Season 2 ([[List of Perfect Strangers episodes#Season 2: 1986-1987|Hunks Like Us]], Larry met Jennifer..." It was painstaking, but I did not need the use of a template. N.B., or should I say, P.S., nice signature. [[User:Coastergeekperson04/|<span style="color:black;">&mdash;</span>]][[User:Ceres3|<span style="color:blue;">Coasterge</span><span style="color:teal;">ekperson</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Coastergeekperson04|<span style="color:darkblue;">04</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Ceres3|<span style="color:green;">TM</span>]]</sup><sub>circa. Jul/26/09&nbsp;15:10</sub>


== Infobox ==
== Infobox ==


It's my understanding that infoboxes should not be used for fictional characters, that doing so portrays them as though they are a real person, giving an in-universe perspective (which should be avoided) to the article. I appreciate that someone went to some trouble to create the box, so I'd like others' thoughts on this before taking any action. [[User:Susan118|<b><font color="purple" face="Comic Sans MS">Susan118</font></b>]] [[User_Talk:Susan118|<font color="purple" face="Comic Sans MS"><sup><small>'''talk'''</small></sup></font>]] 19:35, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
It's my understanding that infoboxes should not be used for fictional characters, that doing so portrays them as though they are a real person, giving an in-universe perspective (which should be avoided) to the article. I appreciate that someone went to some trouble to create the box, so I'd like others' thoughts on this before taking any action. [[User:Susan118|<b><span style="color:purple; font-family:Comic Sans MS;">Susan118</span></b>]] [[User_Talk:Susan118|<span style="color:purple; font-family:Comic Sans MS;"><sup><small>'''talk'''</small></sup></span>]] 19:35, 21 September 2009 (UTC)


:Same goes for year of birth. If no one responds here, I will remove it and make a note to discuss here.[[User:Susan118|<b><font color="purple" face="Comic Sans MS">Susan118</font></b>]] [[User_Talk:Susan118|<font color="purple" face="Comic Sans MS"><sup><small>'''talk'''</small></sup></font>]] 03:53, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
:Same goes for year of birth. If no one responds here, I will remove it and make a note to discuss here.[[User:Susan118|<b><span style="color:purple; font-family:Comic Sans MS;">Susan118</span></b>]] [[User_Talk:Susan118|<span style="color:purple; font-family:Comic Sans MS;"><sup><small>'''talk'''</small></sup></span>]] 03:53, 26 September 2009 (UTC)


:Went over the guidelines again for writing about fiction, it is pretty clear as per [[WP:INUNIVERSE]] that infoboxes (much as I like them) should not be used for fictional characters, so I removed it.[[User:Susan118|<b><font color="purple" face="Comic Sans MS">Susan118</font></b>]] [[User_Talk:Susan118|<font color="purple" face="Comic Sans MS"><sup><small>'''talk'''</small></sup></font>]] 04:11, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
:Went over the guidelines again for writing about fiction, it is pretty clear as per [[WP:INUNIVERSE]] that infoboxes (much as I like them) should not be used for fictional characters, so I removed it.[[User:Susan118|<b><span style="color:purple; font-family:Comic Sans MS;">Susan118</span></b>]] [[User_Talk:Susan118|<span style="color:purple; font-family:Comic Sans MS;"><sup><small>'''talk'''</small></sup></span>]] 04:11, 26 September 2009 (UTC)


== In-universe/relatives ==
== In-universe/relatives ==
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I removed this portion of the article because Bartok and Yanna were only seen/mentioned in one episode, and it probably makes it more in-universe to relatives that might be important to the character but have little relevance to the series as a whole: [[User:Nine hundred ninety-nine|Nine hundred ninety-nine]] ([[User talk:Nine hundred ninety-nine|talk]]) 21:56, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
I removed this portion of the article because Bartok and Yanna were only seen/mentioned in one episode, and it probably makes it more in-universe to relatives that might be important to the character but have little relevance to the series as a whole: [[User:Nine hundred ninety-nine|Nine hundred ninety-nine]] ([[User talk:Nine hundred ninety-nine|talk]]) 21:56, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
:In the season 5 episode "Because They're Cousins", Balki's male cousin Bartok (also played by Pinchot) emigrated from Mypos to [[Los Angeles]] six months earlier. Bartok's experiences in the [[New World]] changed him for the worse. When Bartok visited Balki in Chicago, he [[confidence trick|conned]] money from him. Later, Balki convinced Bartok to become the person he was before going to Los Angeles and to return to Mypos. While Balki mentions his father a few times throughout the series as though he were still alive, he does not come to America with Mamma, nor do we see him when Balki and Larry travel to Mypos. Balki may or may not have a sister named Yanna. In the episode "Sexual Harassment in Chicago", Balki said his tapestry was a gift from his sister Yanna, and he also mentioned missing his nieces and nephews at Christmas. However, when Larry and Jennifer get married, Balki says he never had a brother or sister.
:In the season 5 episode "Because They're Cousins", Balki's male cousin Bartok (also played by Pinchot) emigrated from Mypos to [[Los Angeles]] six months earlier. Bartok's experiences in the [[New World]] changed him for the worse. When Bartok visited Balki in Chicago, he [[confidence trick|conned]] money from him. Later, Balki convinced Bartok to become the person he was before going to Los Angeles and to return to Mypos. While Balki mentions his father a few times throughout the series as though he were still alive, he does not come to America with Mamma, nor do we see him when Balki and Larry travel to Mypos. Balki may or may not have a sister named Yanna. In the episode "Sexual Harassment in Chicago", Balki said his tapestry was a gift from his sister Yanna, and he also mentioned missing his nieces and nephews at Christmas. However, when Larry and Jennifer get married, Balki says he never had a brother or sister.

== doesn't make sense ==

The article says, "He is from the fictional Greek island of Mypos, a fictional Hellenic country in the Mediterranean Sea." Mypos is a fictional Greek island....fair enough. But unless I missed something, Greece is not a "fictional Hellenic country". Since Greece is, by definition, in the Mediterranean Sea, I'm going to remove everything after the word "Mypos". [[User:Elsquared|Elsquared]] ([[User talk:Elsquared|talk]]) 03:27, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

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What sort of sources can be used for a character page? I have a lot I could add, but mainly from watching the show. --Susan118 (talk) 18:12, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your interest in developing this type of article and specifically this subject. Perhaps a good start would be to review Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(writing_about_fiction). If you feel you have developed the article adequately, please remove the {{in-universe|date=May 2009}} tag at the top of the article. If you find the right citations you may also want to remove the {{Unreferenced|date=October 2007}} tag. Pknkly (talk) 16:37, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Now that I've had a chance to read that thoroughly and check out the examples of good articles, I've got a better idea what kind of info should be included. I'm working on it, but it will likely be slow going. --Susan118 talk 06:04, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. I Love You is a good source. It, really, contains everything! Next thing you know we'll be banned for massive copyright violations for the website! Coastergeekperson04TMcirca. Jul/26/09 15:12
That's a great site; that's actually where I found the articles I cited. --Susan118 talk 06:23, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Under Construction

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I added the tag as I am trying to add some information and rewrite some parts to resolve the in-universe problem. --Susan118 talk 01:58, 22 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I did indeed do some major rewriting earlier to fix that problem in Larry Appleton, but I mainly focused on simply replacing years with seasons and episodes, e.g. "Later in 1986, Larry met Jennifer Lyons..." to "Early in Season 2 (Hunks Like Us, Larry met Jennifer..." It was painstaking, but I did not need the use of a template. N.B., or should I say, P.S., nice signature. Coastergeekperson04TMcirca. Jul/26/09 15:10

Infobox

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It's my understanding that infoboxes should not be used for fictional characters, that doing so portrays them as though they are a real person, giving an in-universe perspective (which should be avoided) to the article. I appreciate that someone went to some trouble to create the box, so I'd like others' thoughts on this before taking any action. Susan118 talk 19:35, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Same goes for year of birth. If no one responds here, I will remove it and make a note to discuss here.Susan118 talk 03:53, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Went over the guidelines again for writing about fiction, it is pretty clear as per WP:INUNIVERSE that infoboxes (much as I like them) should not be used for fictional characters, so I removed it.Susan118 talk 04:11, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In-universe/relatives

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I removed this portion of the article because Bartok and Yanna were only seen/mentioned in one episode, and it probably makes it more in-universe to relatives that might be important to the character but have little relevance to the series as a whole: Nine hundred ninety-nine (talk) 21:56, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

In the season 5 episode "Because They're Cousins", Balki's male cousin Bartok (also played by Pinchot) emigrated from Mypos to Los Angeles six months earlier. Bartok's experiences in the New World changed him for the worse. When Bartok visited Balki in Chicago, he conned money from him. Later, Balki convinced Bartok to become the person he was before going to Los Angeles and to return to Mypos. While Balki mentions his father a few times throughout the series as though he were still alive, he does not come to America with Mamma, nor do we see him when Balki and Larry travel to Mypos. Balki may or may not have a sister named Yanna. In the episode "Sexual Harassment in Chicago", Balki said his tapestry was a gift from his sister Yanna, and he also mentioned missing his nieces and nephews at Christmas. However, when Larry and Jennifer get married, Balki says he never had a brother or sister.

doesn't make sense

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The article says, "He is from the fictional Greek island of Mypos, a fictional Hellenic country in the Mediterranean Sea." Mypos is a fictional Greek island....fair enough. But unless I missed something, Greece is not a "fictional Hellenic country". Since Greece is, by definition, in the Mediterranean Sea, I'm going to remove everything after the word "Mypos". Elsquared (talk) 03:27, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]