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The result was redirect to Jesus Dress Up. Spartaz ^Humbug! 21:00, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Normal Bob Smith

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Jesus Dress Up appears to be the only notable output of this person, and this page should redirect there. None of the sources for the article discuss Bob Smith as Bob Smith, they merely mention him en passant as the creator of 'Jesus Dress Up'. It's noted that he was one of seven Bob Smiths in a documentary film; however, that documentary film appears vanishingly marginal[1]. Fails WP:BIO for not providing substantial reliable sources covering its subject. Sumbuddi (talk) 13:51, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, passes WP:GNG. The article does not include a recent NY Times article specifically about Smith, at http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/26/nyregion/26union.html, which discusses him for more than just the Jesus Dress Up. postdlf (talk) 15:02, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That looks like a good source, but someone needs to add the info there to his article as it is failing at the moment. Sumbuddi (talk) 15:54, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It should be, yes, but the article can't "fail" based on that not yet being done. We don't delete articles that can demonstrably be expanded just because they haven't been yet. postdlf (talk) 16:01, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, they get deleted if they fail to meet WP:BASIC. Obv. if you feel the article shouldn't be deleted it would make sense to demonstrate that it is something more substantial than a subsection of Jesus Dress Up. The NYT article demonstrates that he's a character at a park in New York, but it doesn't show the kind of notability/infamy that you get from someone like World Famous Bushman. Does that article prove he is notable? Definitely not. Sumbuddi (talk) 17:48, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. -- Jclemens-public (talk) 17:48, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. -- Jclemens-public (talk) 17:48, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Merge/redirect as appropriate to Jesus Dress Up per Sumbuddi. Johnbod (talk) 21:04, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. -- -- Cirt (talk) 21:19, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Merge/redirect to Jesus Dress Up. Basileias (talk) 00:28, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Jesus Dress Up. --Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 03:07, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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-[[Jesus Dress Up]] appears to be the only notable output of this person, and this page should redirect there. None of the sources for the article discuss Bob Smith as Bob Smith, they merely mention him en passant as the creator of 'Jesus Dress Up'. It's noted that he was one of seven Bob Smiths in a documentary film, however that documentary film appears vanishingly marginal[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0462204/]. Fails [[WP:BIO]] for not providing substantial reliable sources covering its subject. [[User:Sumbuddi|Sumbuddi]] ([[User talk:Sumbuddi|talk]]) 13:51, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
+[[Jesus Dress Up]] appears to be the only notable output of this person, and this page should redirect there. None of the sources for the article discuss Bob Smith as Bob Smith, they merely mention him en passant as the creator of 'Jesus Dress Up'. It's noted that he was one of seven Bob Smiths in a documentary film; however, that documentary film appears vanishingly marginal[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0462204/]. Fails [[WP:BIO]] for not providing substantial reliable sources covering its subject. [[User:Sumbuddi|Sumbuddi]] ([[User talk:Sumbuddi|talk]]) 13:51, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 *'''Keep''', passes [[WP:GNG]].  The article does not include a recent NY Times article specifically about Smith, at http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/26/nyregion/26union.html, which discusses him for more than just the Jesus Dress Up.  '''[[User:Postdlf|postdlf]]''' (''[[User talk:Postdlf|talk]]'') 15:02, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 :That looks like a good source, but someone needs to add the info there to his article as it is failing at the moment. [[User:Sumbuddi|Sumbuddi]] ([[User talk:Sumbuddi|talk]]) 15:54, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 ::It should be, yes, but the article can't "fail" based on that not yet being done.  We don't delete articles that can demonstrably be expanded just because they haven't been yet.  '''[[User:Postdlf|postdlf]]''' (''[[User talk:Postdlf|talk]]'') 16:01, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
+:::No, they get deleted if they fail to meet [[WP:BASIC]]. Obv. if you feel the article shouldn't be deleted it would make sense to demonstrate that it is something more substantial than a subsection of [[Jesus Dress Up]]. The NYT article demonstrates that he's a character at a park in New York, but it doesn't show the kind of notability/infamy that you get from someone like [[World Famous Bushman]]. Does that article prove he is notable? Definitely not. [[User:Sumbuddi|Sumbuddi]] ([[User talk:Sumbuddi|talk]]) 17:48, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 *<small class="delsort-notice">'''Note''':  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Visual arts|list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions]]. <!--Template:Deletion sorting--></small> <small>-- [[User:Jclemens-public|Jclemens-public]] ([[User talk:Jclemens-public|talk]]) 17:48, 1 December 2010 (UTC)</small>
 *<small class="delsort-notice">'''Note''':  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Christianity|list of Christianity-related deletion discussions]]. <!--Template:Deletion sorting--></small> <small>-- [[User:Jclemens-public|Jclemens-public]] ([[User talk:Jclemens-public|talk]]) 17:48, 1 December 2010 (UTC)</small>
+*'''Merge/redirect''' as appropriate to [[Jesus Dress Up]] per Sumbuddi. [[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] ([[User talk:Johnbod|talk]]) 21:04, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
+*<small class="delsort-notice">'''Note''':  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/People|list of People-related deletion discussions]]. <!--Template:Deletion sorting--></small> <small>-- -- '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 21:19, 1 December 2010 (UTC)</small>
+*'''Merge/redirect''' to [[Jesus Dress Up]]. [[User:Basileias|Basileias]] ([[User talk:Basileias|talk]]) 00:28, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
+*'''Redirect''' to [[Jesus Dress Up]]. --[[User:Willthacheerleader18|Willthacheerleader18]] ([[User talk:Willthacheerleader18|talk]]) 03:07, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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