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== Contested deletion ==

This page should not be speedy deleted as pure vandalism or a blatant hoax, because it is still in the early phases of creation. We are currently working to add more details to the article, including references and support from researchers in the field. This article will be expanded rapidly in the upcoming weeks and should be done by December at latest. This is a working article to count towards the completion of a degree requirement for the Human Computer Interaction program at the Rochester Institute of Technology.

Note: Edits made by Alessandra David (AlessandraDavid) and Ashley Miller (abm5673) are intended for the contribution towards the completion of this assignment. Both of us have been assigned to work towards the completion of this article by the December deadline.  [[User:Abm5673|Abm5673]] ([[User talk:Abm5673|talk]]) 23:18, 2 November 2015 (UTC)Abm5673

== Contested deletion ==

This page should not be speedy deleted as pure vandalism or a blatant hoax, because this is a serious work in progress that will be done no later than December 2015, as Ashley Miller (abm5673) has just stated in her comments --[[User:AlessandraDavid|AlessandraDavid]] ([[User talk:AlessandraDavid|talk]]) 23:22, 2 November 2015 (UTC)AlessandraDavid.

== Lead/intro paragraphs ==

Please see [[WP:LEAD]] - it basically says that the intro paragraph(s) are only supposed to cover content that is covered at some point later in the article. So, for example, using ''Dance Dance Revolution'' as an example in the intro isn't supposed to happen because ''Dance Dance'' isn't mentioned in the body at all. I trimmed it out now, because there were kind of too many examples listed, and they were worded a little awkwardly, but feel free to re-add to the intro if/when you add it to the body of the article. [[User:Sergecross73|<span style="color:green">Sergecross73</span>]] [[User talk:Sergecross73|<span style="color:teal">msg me</span>]] 15:44, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

== Does this article cover apps? ==

Does this article cover iPad game apps used in rehabilitation such as [[Fruit Ninja]]? [http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/health-science/hi-tech-stimuli-help-to-dull-the-pain/story-e6frg8y6-1226113730661 Source] --[[Special:Contributions/211.30.17.74|211.30.17.74]] ([[User talk:211.30.17.74|talk]]) 07:12, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

:I've added a small section to make note of this contribution to the greater theme of video game rehabilitation. For fear of it not directly relating to the category, I kept the information brief and mentioned a couple of sources that people could follow up with if they desire more information. Thanks for the suggestion!--[[User:abm5673|abm5673]]  05:12, 1 December 1(UTC)

::Thanks for researching and incorporating my suggestion.  Has there been any criticism of video game rehabilitation?  --[[Special:Contributions/211.30.17.74|211.30.17.74]] ([[User talk:211.30.17.74|talk]]) 12:24, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

:::From the papers I have seen, there hasn't so much been criticism as there has been negative results. A section to cover these may be added in the upcoming week to suggest the flip side of what we have presented thus far, but we wanted to make sure to fully develop these sections as a priority. I can say now, though, that these negative results have been in terms of injuries encountered when playing (ex. tendinitis can result from the Wii), dizziness and nausea from VR systems, and just a lack of improvement seen over regular therapeutic methods. Outside of this article's scope is the consideration that energy burnt in these systems is not always as great as energy burnt in regular rehabilitation methods, however, this is generally used as a point of criticism towards obesity remedies than towards rehabilitation efforts through gaming.--[[User:abm5673|abm5673]]  00:40, 2 December 1(UTC)

::::By the end of the results section I added brief sentences about: 1) negative results due to excess gameplay, and 2) lack of randomized controlled tests about multiple sclerosis and gaming technology vs. traditional exercises. [[User:AlessandraDavid|AlessandraDavid]] ([[User talk:AlessandraDavid|talk]]) 02:58, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

== Original research ==

Which sources actually discuss the concept of "video game rehabilitation"? Many of the sources appear to be applications but it is [[WP:OR|original research]] to relate a bunch of studies together and call it a concept. We depend on secondary sources to summarize the subfield and declare its name/purpose. <span style="background:#F0F0FF; padding:3px 9px 4px">[[User talk:Czar|<span style='font:bold small-caps 1.2em Avenir;color:#B048B5'>czar</span>]]</span> 03:51, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
*I agree totally and am uncertain this passes [[WP:GNG]].   Honestly, while I am sure the authors have the best of intentions, this reads like a term paper, not an encyclopedia article.  [[User:Indrian|Indrian]] ([[User talk:Indrian|talk]]) 05:14, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

*"Video game rehabilitation" may be a problematic top but "Video games for rehabilitation" itself does appear to be a notable summary topic; it's got a lot of google scholar hits. Just because there's no specific coverage of the field as a whole doesn't make the topic improper. --[[User:Masem|M<span style="font-size:x-small;">ASEM</span>]] ([[User Talk:Masem|t]]) 05:44, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
**Actually, significant coverage of the field in reliable sources is exactly what is required to meet Wikipedia policy guidelines, so you have perfectly articulated the reason why the article is likely improper.  That video games have been used for rehabilitation is certainly true.  That video game rehabilitation is actually a field of study requires sources identifying it as such.  [[User:Indrian|Indrian]] ([[User talk:Indrian|talk]]) 06:16, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
***That's why I'm saying there is a difference between consider this as a field of study (eg called "video game rehabilitation") in contrast to the non-field but demonstration of the use of video games for rehabilitation ("video games for rehabilitation"). The latter is clearly true, I do agree that calling it a field is perhaps not supportable. --[[User:Masem|M<span style="font-size:x-small;">ASEM</span>]] ([[User Talk:Masem|t]]) 06:33, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
****Okay, I see what you are saying.  I still think that leaves this article in a problematic place. [[User:Indrian|Indrian]] ([[User talk:Indrian|talk]]) 06:49, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
{{collapsetop| some sources and the phrases they use}} 
* {{cite web 
|url=http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2013/12/25/new-video-game-helps-people-with-physical-therapy/
|title=New Video Game Helps People With Physical Therapy
|date=December 25, 2013
|author=[[Susan Koeppen]]
|publisher=[[KDKA]]/[[CBS]]
|quote=...video games are making their way into health care facilities and nursing homes. ...Using a common game console, researchers developed an uncommon approach to rehab. ...designed the game at the Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center, using what’s known as a [[constraint-induced movement therapy]]. ...a type of rehab that isn’t just sweat and tears, but fun and games. 
}}
* ‎''As of 2015, cited by 86:''  {{cite web 
|url=http://www.caot.ca/otnow/jan%2008/virtual.pdf
|title=Virtual rehabilitation with video games: A new frontier for occupational therapy
|author=[[Jonathan Halton]]
|work=Tele-occupational therapy, in, [[Occupational Therapy Now]]
|volume=9
|number=6
|editor=[[Lili Liu]] and [[Masako Miyazaki]]
|publisher=[[Canadian Association of Occupational Therapists]]
|quote=...Virtual rehabilitation is the use of virtual reality (VR) and virtual environments (VE) within rehabilitation... utilization of the Wii as a therapeutic occupational therapy tool. With benefits paralleling those of [traditional] virtual rehabilitation technology, the low cost and intuitive nature of the Wii make it an exciting new therapy device. ...potential application of the Wii as a telerehabilitation device and for service delivery in client homes and in rural settings ...
}}
* ‎''As of 2015, cited by 16:''  {{cite web 
|url=http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24232363
|title=Video games and rehabilitation: using design principles to enhance engagement in physical therapy.
|work=[[American_Board_of_Physical_Therapy_Specialties#Neurology_.28NCS.29_.5B2.5D.5B4.5D|Journal of Neurologic Physical Therapy]]
|date=December 2013
|volume=37
|number=4
|page=166-75
|doi=10.1097/NPT.0000000000000017
|author=[[K Lohse]], N Shirzad, A Verster, N Hodges, HF Van der Loos.
|quote=...the potential use of video games in rehabilitation ...integrating research across game design, motor learning, neurophysiology changes, and rehabilitation science
}}
* {{cite web 
|url=http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/770970
|title=Should We Integrate Video Games Into Home-Based Rehabilitation Therapies for Cerebral Palsy?
|author=[[Elaine Biddiss]]
|work=[[Future Neurology]]
|date=2012
|volume=7
|number=5
|page=515-518
|quote=Are VR therapies such as video games effective in the physical rehabilitation ... physical therapy guided by a low-cost video game system is indeed alluring. ...potential of video game-assisted rehabilitation, or more generally termed, virtual reality therapies (VRTs). 
}}
* {{cite web 
|url=http://www.aota.org/practice/rehabilitation-disability/emerging-niche/newtech.aspx
|title=New Technology for Rehab
|publisher=[[American Occupational Therapy Association]]
}}
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::::*Suggest that [[video-game-assisted rehabilitation]] (or maybe [[video-game-assisted therapy]]) is a more-descriptive title.  There is definitely a sub-topic (of [[physical therapy]] && [[occupational therapy]]) which has sufficient material for a spin-off article:  sometimes it is called "[[virtual rehabilitation]]" (Halton'08 ... wikipedia article since 2008) and other times called "[[virtual reality therapy]]" (Biddiss'12 ... wikipedia article since 2006).  Within *that* sub-topic there is the sub-sub-topic of specifically videogames (Wii/Xbox/Playstation/etc), which does not seem to have a settled [[WP:COMMONNAME]] just yet, although [[video-game-assisted rehabilitation]] is close to the mark.  Right now our VRT article is [[WP:UNDUE]] about treating [[PTSD]] and [[clinical depression]], and does not mention videogames as physical therapy, nor as general-purpose cognitive therapy; if consensus is against making a dedicated article about game-assisted rehab, perhaps a triple-merge of [[video_game_rehabilitation]] + [[virtual_therapy]] + [[virtual rehabilitation]] is in order?  p.s.  We also have [[occupational therapy in the management of cerebral palsy]] among other such sub-sub-sub-topics, see Biddiss'12.  [[Special:Contributions/75.108.94.227|75.108.94.227]] ([[User talk:75.108.94.227|talk]]) 11:23, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
* Thanks, 75.108. I'm not familiar with the lit, but what do you think about using a non-neologism title like [[Occupational therapy technology]] or [[Video games in occupational therapy]]—would that cover everything in lieu of a buzzword that might not exist? In this case, I could see such an article spinning out [[Wikipedia:Summary style|summary style]] from [[occupational therapy]] (and would need to be covered there as a section first). <span style="background:#F0F0FF; padding:3px 9px 4px">[[User talk:Czar|<span style='font:bold small-caps 1.2em Avenir;color:#B048B5'>czar</span>]]</span> 13:36, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
**That would seem like a decent way to fix this as a topic.  I am still concerned that the article falls into the trap sometimes of making general statements based on the results of a single case study.  [[User:Indrian|Indrian]] ([[User talk:Indrian|talk]]) 14:27, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
***For context, this article was inspired through the suggested pages section of Human Computer Interaction WikiProject Page. Their request states, "The development of games for the purpose of providing interactive rehabilitation programs for patients. A recent example is Microsoft's Kinect game for Stroke rehab - Microsoft Stroke Recovery with Kinect. Can relate to a sub-section of Digital healthcare, though it seems easy enough to find distinctions between the two. Pgrobison (talk)", thus inspiring the development of this content. We began with the title "Gaming Rehabilitation" but it was changed after for fear that it would be confused for Gaming Addiction Rehabilitation. [[User:abm5673|abm5673]]  17:46, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
***Additionally, more sources have now been added to suggest systemic reviews in the literature that support our review, here. These reviews range in their focus, but all support virtual reality gaming environments as a growing field in research and as one that is backed by several researchers worldwide. [[User:abm5673|abm5673]]  05:14, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

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