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==Olympic Points record premature????==

According to a reliable source; [http://www.legendsofhockey.net/LegendsOfHockey/jsp/LegendsMember.jsp?mem=p196224&type=Player&page=bio&list=ByName#photo] Harry watson scored 37 goals in 5 games in the 1924 olympics, also Harry Watson had 9 assists (apparently maybe a better source is needed) [http://www.habseyesontheprize.com/2010/2/17/1314629/three-future-habs-at-1924-olympic] are we not premature as the news in declaring that Selanne is the all time points leader in the olympics? I think he still has 9 points to go. [[User:Ottawa4ever|Ottawa4ever]] ([[User talk:Ottawa4ever|talk]]) 09:32, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
:IIHF says that Watson, along with [[Vlastimil Bubnik]] and [[Valeri Kharlamov]] all had 36 points.[http://www.iihf.com/channels10/olympics-2010/news/news-singleview-world-championship-2009/article/teemu-time-versus-germans.html] —[[User:Krm500|Krm500]] <sup>([[User talk:Krm500|Communicate!]])</sup> 12:37, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
::As far as I can tell the 36 points originates  from the NHL compiling a list of olympic records [http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=58786]. Watson is credited as having 36 goals by the NHL and IIHF, 37 goals by HHOF. This doesnt matter though so much aside from being slightly premature. Selanne will no doubt pass 37 points shortly with his 38th. However in every source available on the record being beaten by Selanne only Watson's total goals are used to compare as being his total points. His assists are not being considered. Even in comparsion of total points the NHL in the above list compared Selanne to modern players and not to Watson. I think even if we say Selanne broke the record, we should point out that only Watson's total goals are considered in this comparison. Otherwise I believe we have a biased comparsion. Alternatively like the NHL (use to compare prior to this hype building up) I think we need to specifically say Selanne's points record is a ''modern'' olympic record. Would you agree with either option? [[User:Ottawa4ever|Ottawa4ever]] ([[User talk:Ottawa4ever|talk]]) 13:15, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Assists were not recorded internationally back then. I can understand your argument about bias, but at the same time you don't see games end 33-0 anymore. Basically it comes down to avoiding original research, which we can do by simply reciting what the sources say. —[[User:Krm500|Krm500]] <sup>([[User talk:Krm500|Communicate!]])</sup> 14:03, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
::::As Krm mentions assists were not recorded back then. And adding the word modern is Original Research. We are obligated to just recite what the sources say. -[[User:Djsasso|DJSasso]] ([[User talk:Djsasso|talk]]) 15:09, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::Adding the word 'modern' as the NHL has done in their list; [http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=58786] is not original resarch. I can though understand the point of view presented that it can sound as such considering other sources have compared Watson to Selanne and that we can be borderline doing SYNTH (under OR) at that point. Though I do think that its semi biased coverage the way it is written (perhaps more so in the sources being written recently by the press), I do see your points of view as well. Thanks for the input. [[User:Ottawa4ever|Ottawa4ever]] ([[User talk:Ottawa4ever|talk]]) 15:52, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Just for information, the reliable site eliteprospects [http://www.eliteprospects.com/league_total.php?leagueid=OG&season=alltime&league_sum_totals=yes] also recorded the 46 points Harry Watson may have scored.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/188.61.130.27|188.61.130.27]] ([[User talk:188.61.130.27|talk]]) 10:13, 16 January 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:::::::"May have scored" is the key issue there.  Regardless of the reliability of Elite Hockey Prospects, the fact remains that the IIHF did not track assists at those games.  Watson officially has 36 points in Olympic competition per the IIHF itself. [[User:Resolute|Reso]][[User Talk:Resolute|lute]] 23:53, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

== Place of Birth ==

The place of birth in the info box has been changed to [[Espoo]] numerous time. The NHL lists his place of birth as [[Helsinki]] [http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8457981], as does [http://www.eurohockey.net/players/show_player.cgi?serial=8347 European Hockey.Net], [http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=4863 the Internet Hockey Database] and [http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/hockeynews/hockey/player.cgi?1035 The Hockey News]. According to the [http://www.legendsofhockey.net/LegendsOfHockey/jsp/SearchPlayer.jsp?player=11472 Hockey Hall of Fame] he was born in Helsinki, and did not move to Espoo until after he had began playing hockey as a child in [[Rauma, Finland|Rauma]], and makes it sound like he was around 10 at the time. If there is a reference that states other wise please add it but all information backs up the statement that he was born in Helsinki.--[[user:leech44|Mo Rock...Monstrous]]  <small>[[user talk:leech44|(leech44)]]</small> 15:57, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

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== Teemu's father ==

You know that magazine published that stepfather claim is one of the infamous yellow press -magazines in Finland? That claim should be removed. [[User:Iivarius|Iivarius]] ([[User talk:Iivarius|talk]]) 14:09, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
:{{ping|Iivarius}} The link appears to have gone dead, so we will probably have to find another anyway, but could you perhaps help me with some clarification?  Which "stepfather clam" are you referring to? I sort of presume that you mean Ilmari is actually his biological father? If you have a better source as well (in English or Finnish), that would be most helpful! Thanks, [[User:Resolute|Reso]][[User Talk:Resolute|lute]] 14:20, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

== Selännes personal information has been tampered with. ==

Height, weight etc are obviously fake. [[User:Mikaaneikelpaa|Mikaaneikelpaa]] ([[User talk:Mikaaneikelpaa|talk]]) 10:00, 2 March 2020 (UTC)