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== Correct: [[NYT]] article states 'Randal" not "Randy". ==

Correct: [[NYT]] article states 'Randal" not "Randy".   [[Special:Contributions/209.255.78.138|209.255.78.138]] ([[User talk:209.255.78.138|talk]]) 19:44, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
: The word "Randy" occurs only once in the article, citing the NYT as its source: "Although Ron Paul was a fan of Ayn Rand, her name was not the inspiration for Randal Paul's first name; he went by "Randy" as a child and "Rand" as an adult.[6]" Here is what the NYT article says: "As a teenager, he studied the Austrian economists that his father revered, as well as the iconic free-market novelist and philosopher, Ayn Rand (she was not the inspiration for Rand’s name, which is short for Randal; he was called Randy growing up)." In other words, the article accurately reflects the NYT mention of "Randy". [[User:Betsythedevine|betsythedevine]] ([[User talk:Betsythedevine|talk]]) 21:46, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:: I was also interested to see this statement [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rand_Paul&diff=prev&oldid=279546127 added to an early version of the bio]: "His given name is Randy, but started going by Rand during his father's 1988 run for President as a Libertarian in order to invoke the memory of novelist [[Ayn Rand]]." It is not a reliable source, but it does support the inference that "Randy" was a longtime nickname. [[User:Betsythedevine|betsythedevine]] ([[User talk:Betsythedevine|talk]]) 12:10, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

== Southern Kentucky Lions Eye Clinic ==

The article says "Paul also founded the Southern Kentucky Lions Eye Clinic to help provide eye surgery and exams for those with no health insurance coverage," but Google turns up no mention of such a clinic except in campaign literature for Rand Paul. The [http://www.kylionseye.org/district/43/projects/klef/EyeCare.asp Kentucky Lions website] lists no clinic by that name. According to a [http://www.kylionseye.org/district/43/projects/klef/FactsSheet.asp Kentucky Lions fact sheet], in 1995 "Clinic was established in Bowling Green called the South Central Lions Eye Clinic. Dr. Rand Paul helped establish this clinic and still is a major part of this clinic."  [[User:Betsythedevine|betsythedevine]] ([[User talk:Betsythedevine|talk]]) 13:12, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
: Comment, so is the basic idea that Rand Paul got the Lions to set up a clinic in his home town, so that the Lions could pay him when he treated patients who had no insurance? [[User:Betsythedevine|betsythedevine]] ([[User talk:Betsythedevine|talk]]) 15:12, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

From the Medical career section of [[Rand Paul]] , "Paul founded the Southern Kentucky Lions Eye Clinic to help provide eye surgery and exams for those with no health insurance coverage, or who are living on a minimum wage.[16][17]" I ponied up $2.95 to get access to reference #16, an article from Bowling Green News which is now behind a pay wall, and here is what it says about that clinic: "Most recently – in 1995 – the group and other Lions Clubs in the region established the Southern Kentucky Eye Clinic, which provides minor eye surgeries to adults who otherwise couldn’t afford to have the work done." Rand Paul's name is mentioned elsewhere in the article, as follows: "A few years ago, the club financed operations for two Guatemalan boys who came to this country blind and left seeing, thanks to the surgeries by Noon Lions Club member Dr. Rand Paul, who heads the Southern Kentucky Eye Clinic, Nahm said." I do not think Reference #16, which does not support the claim that Paul founded the clinic, should be used as a reference here as if it supported it. Reference #17 is an AP story from January, 2008, which unequivocally states, "He founded the Southern Kentucky Lions Eye Clinic, which provides eye surgery and exams for those who otherwise couldn't afford proper care." I am changing the text and removing the non-free "reference" #16. [[User:Betsythedevine|betsythedevine]] ([[User talk:Betsythedevine|talk]]) 01:05, 23 October 2010 (UTC)